Investor · Campton, NH · Member since 2010 · 286 posts · 144 votes
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It's prudent to consider 'do we clean out the house, make sure the systems are all functioning and sell faster, for less, 'as-is' for a particular net margin, or risk going all-out and do the full reno, selling 4-5 months later for a slower but possibly larger net margin?" Our last three flips we got at auctions and were liveable 'as-is', so we chose the quicker-check route, netting $100k, $70k and $68k, two of which we carried out the work before we closed (vacant homes), with one of them going under contract with a buyer the day we bought it and another within 2 days of buying it.........
Accountant · Seattle, WA · Member since 2025 · 371 posts · 138 votes
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@Siahna Im The biggest overspending usually happens when personal taste replaces market data. Kitchens and bathrooms can help sell a home, but premium finishes rarely pay off if nearby comps have standard materials. Flippers also get into trouble by changing the scope mid-project, over-improving one room while ignoring major systems, or underestimating permits, labor, and holding costs. A solid approach is to work backward from the realistic resale value, match the finish level to the neighborhood, and keep a contingency for surprises. The goal is not to build the nicest house possible—it is to deliver the best product the market will actually reward.
Lender · Lakewood, WA · Member since 2021 · 76 posts · 28 votes
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100% agree. I think the biggest trap is forgetting that you’re building for the market, not for your own taste. It’s easy to get carried away with finishes while overlooking things like systems, permits, labor, and holding costs. Working backward from realistic comps and keeping a contingency makes a lot more sense than trying to make the property the nicest one on the block.
Real Estate Consultant · Alabama | SFR Operations Nationwide · Member since 2026 · 15 posts · 6 votes
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From the field side, most overspending I've seen is decided before closing, not during the rehab. If the walk before purchase doesn't scope the roof, sewer line, panel, and HVAC, that money shows up mid-project and gets pulled from somewhere else, or it gets added on top.
Two things that helped: set the finish level for the whole house in the scope before you buy, so nobody upgrades one room at a time. And treat every change order as a buy decision. If it doesn't move the resale price or prevent a callback, it waits.
Scope creep usually costs more than the luxury backsplash.
Lender · Lakewood, WA · Member since 2021 · 76 posts · 28 votes
1w
That’s a great point about overspending starting before the rehab even begins. The pre-purchase walk and scope really can make or break the budget.
I especially like the idea of treating every change order as a buy decision. It’s easy for small upgrades to add up when you’re already in the middle of the project. Having the finish level and scope clearly defined upfront seems like a good way to keep the budget tied to the actual resale strategy.
Investor · Campton, NH · Member since 2010 · 286 posts · 144 votes
3d
It's prudent to consider 'do we clean out the house, make sure the systems are all functioning and sell faster, for less, 'as-is' for a particular net margin, or risk going all-out and do the full reno, selling 4-5 months later for a slower but possibly larger net margin?" Our last three flips we got at auctions and were liveable 'as-is', so we chose the quicker-check route, netting $100k, $70k and $68k, two of which we carried out the work before we closed (vacant homes), with one of them going under contract with a buyer the day we bought it and another within 2 days of buying it.........
Lender · Lakewood, WA · Member since 2021 · 76 posts · 28 votes
2d
That’s a great example of letting the numbers and the market guide the strategy. If a property is already livable and buyers are willing to move quickly, taking the “quicker-check” route can make a lot of sense rather than adding months and unnecessary renovation costs.
I think flippers often overspend when they focus on making a property look impressive instead of asking what buyers in that specific market actually value. How do you decide when a full renovation is worth the extra time and cost?
Investor · Member since 2022 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
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I have only seen a minute number of fix and floppers do this. It's usually when they are out of state and are investing based off out-dated comps pushed by an agent/brokerage that is just looking for their commission.
It applies to less than 1%. The real post should be quit adding little to no value to flips and being egregious with the price re-listing. No one owes you your HML fees cause your diligence was trash.
Lender · Lakewood, WA · Member since 2021 · 76 posts · 28 votes
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That's a fair point. I think the bigger takeaway is really about making sure the numbers are supported by current, relevant comps and not letting the renovation budget get driven by personal preferences. Whether it's an outdated ARV or unnecessary upgrades, both can eat into the margin pretty quickly.
Curious, what do you think is the most common mistake investors make when evaluating comps for a flip?
Flipper/Rehabber · CA · Member since 2023 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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V.G. nailed it, poor underwriting on thin margins while leveraged is a tough way for any business to operate in. Throw in an inexperienced biz operator & the odds of success get worse.
Great point, Siahna. I think kitchens and bathrooms are two areas where investors can easily overspend, especially when personal preferences start outweighing what buyers in that market are willing to pay.
From the business funding side, I also believe having access to capital is important, but knowing how to use that capital wisely is just as important. Just because funding is available doesn’t mean every upgrade is worth making.
The goal should always be to maximize the return, not just maximize the renovation budget.
I’m curious, do you think newer investors tend to overspend more on cosmetic upgrades or underestimate the cost of unexpected repairs?