I pencil-underwrote every active 2-4 unit in Oxnard, CA. Here's what I found.
Real Estate Agent · Ventura County · Member since 2024 · 11 posts · 5 votes
I pencil-underwrote every active 2-4 unit in Oxnard, CA. Here's what I found.
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Lender · Washington DC · Member since 2026 · 72 posts · 18 votes
3dQuote from @Noelle Harrelson:
✏️Spent this morning running a pencil sheet on every active duplex in Oxnard zips 93030 and 93033 (5 listings, $750K-$929K).
Terms: 25% down, 7.25%, 30-yr, taxes at 1.25% of list price. NOI uses ~5% vacancy, plus insurance, maintenance and reserves.
Result: none clear 1.0x DSCR on in-place rents. Most land around 0.4-0.5x.
The five:
5340 S J: $929K, $5,550/mo, ~0.73x
1026 S C: $788K, ~$3,470/mo (est.), ~0.50x
141 S Hayes: $750K, $3,000/mo, ~0.44x
509 E Date: $788K, $3,148/mo, ~0.44x
639-641 W Kamala: $830K, ~$3,450/mo (est.), ~0.40x
Older duplexes ($750K-$830K) were renting about $1,100-$1,900 a door. The price that actually works at 1.25x on those rents is roughly $330K-$390K.
Best of the five was the remodeled duplex at $929K with ~$2,750/door rents. It would need about $8,100/mo total to hit 1.25x, versus $5,550 today.
A couple of caveats: two of the rents are estimates (marked above), and I used list price for property tax reassessment.
Right now it looks like an appreciation or owner-occupant play, not a cash-flow one. Is anyone finding 2-4s in Ventura County (or similar high-cost coastal markets) that pencil today? What assumptions would you change?
Great breakdown. The numbers really highlight how much purchase price and financing structure matter when underwriting rental properties. I'm an investor and real estate financing partner, and I’m always interested in connecting with people who take a numbers driven approach to acquisitions. Curious, are you actively looking for opportunities in Oxnard, or are you primarily analyzing the market right now?
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- Lender · Washington DC · Member since 2026 · 72 posts · 18 votes3d
Quote from @Noelle Harrelson:
✏️Spent this morning running a pencil sheet on every active duplex in Oxnard zips 93030 and 93033 (5 listings, $750K-$929K).
Terms: 25% down, 7.25%, 30-yr, taxes at 1.25% of list price. NOI uses ~5% vacancy, plus insurance, maintenance and reserves.
Result: none clear 1.0x DSCR on in-place rents. Most land around 0.4-0.5x.
The five:
5340 S J: $929K, $5,550/mo, ~0.73x
1026 S C: $788K, ~$3,470/mo (est.), ~0.50x
141 S Hayes: $750K, $3,000/mo, ~0.44x
509 E Date: $788K, $3,148/mo, ~0.44x
639-641 W Kamala: $830K, ~$3,450/mo (est.), ~0.40x
Older duplexes ($750K-$830K) were renting about $1,100-$1,900 a door. The price that actually works at 1.25x on those rents is roughly $330K-$390K.
Best of the five was the remodeled duplex at $929K with ~$2,750/door rents. It would need about $8,100/mo total to hit 1.25x, versus $5,550 today.
A couple of caveats: two of the rents are estimates (marked above), and I used list price for property tax reassessment.
Right now it looks like an appreciation or owner-occupant play, not a cash-flow one. Is anyone finding 2-4s in Ventura County (or similar high-cost coastal markets) that pencil today? What assumptions would you change?
Great breakdown. The numbers really highlight how much purchase price and financing structure matter when underwriting rental properties. I'm an investor and real estate financing partner, and I’m always interested in connecting with people who take a numbers driven approach to acquisitions. Curious, are you actively looking for opportunities in Oxnard, or are you primarily analyzing the market right now?
- Real Estate Agent · Ventura County · Member since 2024 · 11 posts · 5 votes2d
Thanks, LaTarence! I'm a realtor in Oxnard, building my practice around serving investors, so I'm ready for the right deal when it comes along.
Since you're on the financing side: what DSCR minimums and rates are you seeing on 2-4 units in California right now? I used 7.25% and 25% down. Happy to compare notes.
- Member since 2023 · 56 posts · 24 votes2d
Your math reads right to me. One difference is worth adding: DSCR lenders usually use gross rent divided by PITIA, not NOI, so the number the lender sees is a bit higher than your 0.5x. For the $788K duplex at $3,470: 25% down is a $591K loan, P&I at 7.25% is about $4,030, taxes at 1.25% are about $820 and insurance about $200, so PITIA is around $5,050. That's about 0.69x on the lender's math. To get to 1.0x with the same rents, the price would need to be around $540K at 25% down, or about $600K at 35% down.
So I'd run these other cases:
- Owner-occupied. Live in one unit with a 2-4 unit owner-occupant loan (FHA or conventional, depending on limits) at a lower rate and 3.5-5% down. The rent from the other units offsets the payment, and the numbers look very different than on the investor sheet.
- Add an ADU. If the lot allows one, an extra unit at $1,800-$2,200 changes a 0.69x into something much closer to 1.0x.
- Price. List price vs. what it closes at. Your range needs about 30%-plus off to reach 1.0x, so I'd track which listings are sitting.
It does look like an appreciation or owner-occupant market, as you said.
- Real Estate Agent · Ventura County · Member since 2024 · 11 posts · 5 votes1d
Thanks, Hossein, good catch on PITIA. I was on NOI, so that's a helpful correction. I took your owner-occupant idea and ran it on the same $788K duplex ($3,470 total rent, living in one unit and renting the other for about $1,735):
- 5% down: about $39K (vs $197K at 25%)
- Loan about $749K at 7.25%
- PITI plus roughly $375 PMI: about $6,500/mo
- After the other unit's rent: about $4,770/mo net
So cash in drops a lot, but the rent only covers about a quarter of the payment at these prices. Does that match how you'd run it? Would love to compare numbers.
- 1dDivin KanyamaBusiness MemberAccountant · Seattle, WA · Member since 2025 · 371 posts · 145 votes
This is a useful reality check, @Noelle Harrelson . When in-place DSCR is only 0.4–0.7x, small assumption changes will not rescue the deal—the gap is structural. I'd still test actual insurance quotes, reassessed taxes, utility responsibility, realistic market rents, and whether owner-occupied financing changes the picture. But unless there is a credible value-add path, these look more like house-hack or long-term appreciation plays than cash-flow investments. The key is not forcing the underwriting to work just because the market is desirable.
- Real Estate Agent · Ventura County · Member since 2024 · 11 posts · 5 votes1d
Thanks, Divin. Agreed: at 0.4-0.7x DSCR, no assumption tweak fixes it. The gap is structural. I ran actives as a screen to see if any duplex in Oxnard gets close at ask, and none did.
I'm rerunning on closed sales to see how much negotiation closes the gap. Owner-occupied financing is one lever that could change the picture, since lower down payments make house-hack math work where investor loans don't.
Are you seeing owner-occupants set the price floor in your markets too?
- 1dDan H.Pro MemberInvestor · Poway, CA · Member since 2015 · 7k+ posts · 8k+ votes
>Spent this morning running a pencil sheet on every active duplex in Oxnard
Why would you use active listings? What would you think of an appraiser that used active listings? It is hopefully exactly what I think of your approach.
Run the closed listings. I saw spent you will see some significant difference. Know that would definitely be the case in my San Diego market.
Good luck
- Real Estate Agent · Ventura County · Member since 2024 · 11 posts · 5 votes1d
Fair point, Dan. I ran actives to see what's on the table right now: at asking, does any duplex in Oxnard come close to cash flowing?
That's a screen, not a valuation.
Closed sales are the real test, so I'll dig into those next.
What kind of list-to-close spread are you seeing on small multifamily in San Diego?
- 22hDan H.Pro MemberInvestor · Poway, CA · Member since 2015 · 7k+ posts · 8k+ votes
The listing versus selling delta has been widening since 2022. There are many non serious “sellers” in San Diego MF.
the overall San Diego RE is flattish over the last couple years but this is propped up by single family houses. MF, condos, townhouses have fallen significantly. In the case of MF, the sales have slowed significantly. I saw a duplex in Escondido (blue collar city in San Diego county) that both units were 3/1 sell at $699k. I believe that would have been near $1.2m 4 years ago. It is the cheapest I have seen since maybe 2018. I also have seen some duplex 2/1 that also are th3 cheapest I have seen in quite a few years.
To put it differently, for most of the time I have been investing in RE I consider Zillow low on my MF. Currently I consider it significantly high. My guess is MF is down more than condos and townhouses which I suspect are down ~25% as a rough estimate.
In San Diego only OO sf houses have not lost significant value.
I will say on most of the MF listed on mls in my market they have asking price as though it is 2021. The serious sellers lower their price far below the not serious listings.
If you perform the exercise I would be interested in
1) how far MF prices have dropped from their recent high in that market.
2) what is the delta between average list price and average sold price (not on the individual property but market wide). In particular, I question if the gap is similar to what I see in San Diego.
I may look to snag a quad in a class b area if the numbers improve just a tad more.
- 1dRobin SimonBusiness MemberLender · Austin, TX · Member since 2022 · 5k+ posts · 4k+ votes
Yeah, its just brutal to get cash flow anywhere in markets like CA right now with any sort of leverage
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