Airbnb's new checkout rule: the turnover math that makes it a non-issue

Airbnb's new checkout rule: the turnover math that makes it a non-issue

Member since 2018 · 9 posts · 3 votes

With the new airbnb house rules hitting Nov 20 (no asking guests to strip beds, do dishes or haul trash), I've heard rumblings and read articles (probably like many of you) of a lot of frustration. I think much of it isn't really about chores. Airbnb now takes 15.5% from hosts (cleaning fee included), Vrbo moves to a flat 12% on Oct 29, and cities keep adding rules and taxes. Everyone's taking a bigger slice, and the host is left with the bill and the risk. Through a few more requirements and the frustration boils over.

So, while STR can still be a great business, in my opinion it is not unlike any other business where healthy margins exist - everyone comes for them to get their piece and sustained success is about disciplined acquisitions and disciplined operations. I'd rather say no to a risky deal and miss the upside than say yes to a risky deal that jeopardizes the rest of my business.

That being said, I've been running short term rentals in regulated cities since 2019. In that time I've seen successful growth year over year despite the regulators and OTAs taking a bigger slice of my pie. I also went from a passive host with a paid manager to a full time host who operates a management and investment business that specializes in short term rentals. If you're new or experienced, learning from others has always helped me. So I figured I'd share some tips that I've learned over the years:

  1. We measured every step of a turnover. I initially assumed that a good turnover was all on the cleaners. If they couldn't turn the unit as fast or with the quality I wanted, they were just not good cleaners. That could not have been further from the truth. As I measured the turnover process, there were all sorts of roadblocks. Laundry is an easy one to use as an example. We have lots and lots of linen back ups, so our turnovers aren't dependent on a wash/dry cycle. But at the end of the day the linens need to get washed and dryed and set up for future turnovers. In looking at that bottle neck I found that while our washers did a load in about 25 minutes, towels and sheets needed 45 minutes - 1 hour to dry. My solution, I bought a 2nd dryer. This is just one example of a solution that didn't seem obvious when I started in the business, and your business may have the same issue or a completely different one. So go through every step of your turnover bottleneck and see what's jamming it up. If you've done it in the past, maybe it's worth a revisit to make sure nothing has changed.

  2. We price the cleaning fee at true cost. True cost is hard to measure so I find as obvious as this advice is, it can be a step that's harder to feel good about. Supplies cost, energy cost, lost nights due to regular turnover/maintenance issues, even your wear and tear costs. How do you not only charge what a true clean costs but how are you building reserves for the consumables and normal wear and tear items so when the costs come due, you're not struggling to come up with the cash for it. Eventually you'll have to buy a new couch, new towels and sheets, and a lot of other items. So build that reserve. Charge what a clean actually costs you, and constantly measure because things can change quickly and you want to catch it before those changes mean real dollars coming out of your pocket.

  3. We audit amenities. If something adds time to every turn but nobody books for it or mentions it in reviews, it goes. If you're like me, you're proud of the properties and rentals you manage. So this one can feel a bit personal. You took the time and energy to add an amenity and maybe it didn't turn out like you wanted it to. Maybe that $5,000 entertainment setup is too complicated for guests or it keeps you up at night worried that someone is going to break it. Get rid of it. Simplify. Constantly ask your guests for feedback on what they liked or what was memorable. Ask them about specific features. Maybe you hear back what you expect but maybe you don't. Either way, asking doesn't cost you anything and it may give you insights you didn't have before.

  4. We buy so the property works without Airbnb. Every short-term rental we own has to stand on its own as a mid-term or long-term rental. This paid off for me very early in my short term rental career because I bought an investment property and furnished it and released it onto Airbnb on March 1, 2020. Right as the world was shutting down. I was able to quickly rent it as a furnished rental thankfully (and had enough reserves to weather the interim period). BUT, putting pandemic related risk aside, with regulatory uncertainty for short term rentals being omnipresent, I felt like I needed my investment to work in multiple ways before I felt comfortable moving forward. Like I said before, I'd rather have a really reliable business, and am willing to sacrifice upside than get into a high risk high reward investment. Maybe this advice doesn't work for you or your market but I do encourage you to think about how you'd run the investment if something significant changes. Do you have a margin of safety financially if the occupancy rate isn't as high as you'd like it to be, or your nightly rate is lower than you expected? What happens if the municipality you operate in significantly changes the airbnb regulations? If the answers to some of these questions is: "Well I'd be F*cked". AND that would cause you serious harm , then maybe now is the time to think about building a safety net or restructuring the business so these outcomes wouldn't be so heard to take.

  5. Use your biggest challenge as your main differentiator. Here's one counter-intuitive point. I believe that the regulatory environment I face, which is one of the tougher environments in the country, actually has helped my business. Let that sink in for a moment. That same environment that was such a pain with all those hurdles and licensing costs has helped contribute to my higher occupancy and rate per night. They make it harder for other operators to enter the market, get rid of bad operators, and keep supply lower than demand. If you're chasing easy, remember that a lot of other people are too, and so over time your edge may evaporate. Being successful in markets that not as many people can operate in will give you a sustained edge, so don't avoid an investment just because the regulatory environment may be tough. What that means to me is that you have LESS uncertainty. The market has defined a ruleset and now it's on you to see if you could make an investment against that ruleset successful.

These are just a few of the things I've done in my short term rental business that I think could be valuable for people thinking about getting into the short term rental business or even for experienced pros. Would love to hear what you've done to grow and sustain your business!

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MD/DC · Member since 2024 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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TBH I'm surprised more hosts here aren't weighing in on this. The restrictions that Airbnb unilaterally decided to add are not in line with how I am going to run my business. I will need the guests name and maintain the ability to set my own house rules. I'm trying very hard to ignore the disgusting comments online from people who I suspect aren't even actual guests and are clueless about cleaning costs and expectations. Apparently when on vacation no one lifts a finger? and extolling the virtues of the "free breakfast" at Hampton inn, lol...have at it. I have read that we are making thousands off the cleaning fee, hosts make $100,000 a year profit and have singlehandedly blocked young families ability to purchase their first home...yup my 1/2 million dollar 1 bedrom condo in seasonal beach town did that and "we hate you". It is disappointing how Airbnb has pitted guests against hosts and I'm not playing in their sandbox unless they back step and make a few changes.

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  • Andrew SteffensBusiness Member
    Tampa, FL · Member since 2022 · 4k+ posts · 3k+ votes
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    Good info, much appreciated. I wont speak for everyone, but I do not think the main objections of hosts is to the cleaning items, but more to the not being able to verify guests etc which is an overstep in my and many others opinion.

  • MD/DC · Member since 2024 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    TBH I'm surprised more hosts here aren't weighing in on this. The restrictions that Airbnb unilaterally decided to add are not in line with how I am going to run my business. I will need the guests name and maintain the ability to set my own house rules. I'm trying very hard to ignore the disgusting comments online from people who I suspect aren't even actual guests and are clueless about cleaning costs and expectations. Apparently when on vacation no one lifts a finger? and extolling the virtues of the "free breakfast" at Hampton inn, lol...have at it. I have read that we are making thousands off the cleaning fee, hosts make $100,000 a year profit and have singlehandedly blocked young families ability to purchase their first home...yup my 1/2 million dollar 1 bedrom condo in seasonal beach town did that and "we hate you". It is disappointing how Airbnb has pitted guests against hosts and I'm not playing in their sandbox unless they back step and make a few changes.

  • John RacinePro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Casselberry, FL · Member since 2008 · 114 posts · 65 votes
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    @Steven Meyer thanks for taking the time to write this up. It's a great share, and a welcome change from the frustration in most of the threads about this rule.

    Measuring each step of the turnover really stood out. It's easy to assume a slow turn is on the cleaners when the real holdup is something like dryer time. The amenity audit is a good one too. It's tempting to keep adding things, and asking guests what they actually valued is a simple way to find out what's worth the extra time on every turn.

    Your point about buying so the property works without Airbnb is one more owners should take to heart, especially with how often the rules have been changing. Same with building a reserve for the couch and linens you know you'll have to replace eventually.

    I also agree with Andrew that guest screening is the bigger concern for a lot of hosts.

    Appreciate you sharing what's worked for you. Curious how much the second dryer cut your turn time.

  • Property Manager · Melbourne, FL · Member since 2019 · 472 posts · 173 votes
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    The amenity audit hits home. On our larger houses, we use a detailed turnover checklist with photos, but every extra item still has to be cleaned, checked and replaced eventually. Curious what you've actually removed, Steven. Anything you thought guests would miss that nobody mentioned?

    • Member since 2018 · 9 posts · 3 votes
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      Absolutely. The one that comes to mind is a hot tub we were maintaining that was getting little use and was costing real money to maintain and run. The property is in a city and while the amenity was differentiating, it really wasn't a reason most people booked or used. We ended up removing it from the listing initially (and guidebooks/etc) and we found no real change in bookings or rates after a 2 month test. The hot tub is still there, but it's not filled or used and it's saved us a bunch of headaches and turnover cost too. so everyone is happy!

  • Member since 2018 · 9 posts · 3 votes
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    @Andrew Steffens @Jules Aton I agree, the guest verification piece is the bigger issue, not the chores. Here’s how I’m approaching it, in case it helps.

    I read Airbnb's actual policy (Help Center article 4169). It does restrict asking guests for contact info or ID, but it allows exceptions where it's "necessary to comply with applicable law or a documented community association rule (ex: HOA or building security requirement)." Airbnb doesn't define that term.

    So for my buildings, each owner is signing a written building security policy before November 20. It applies to everyone who stays overnight, on every platform, and covers names of all adults, an email and phone for the booking guest, and stay dates. It states why: safety for other residents, emergency contact, and the occupancy records our insurers and lenders rely on. It’s disclosed in the house rules and the listing’s Requests section before anyone books. I also operate properties in certain states/municipalities that already have laws that require us to use contracts or collect guest information, and in those cases it's much simpler since airbnb carved those properties out from their rule already.

    Two caveats. Nobody has tested this with Airbnb yet obviously. I suspect the cities/states that already regulate many of these tasks would not appreciate some of this guest obfuscation that airbnb is trying to apply and could quickly nullify the requirements by adding new requirements. Personally, I feel like airbnb is trying to protect their business by making a rule that prevents hosts from having contact information and building relationships with guests (and keeps guests from going back to hosts they like directly). Again, that's my own feeling, but I do suspect that insurance companies, lenders, cities, states, associations, etc will take issue with this rule like hosts have. I also could see broader challenges from insurance companies who insure these properties. Not sure what carrier would be comfortable with hosts not having information related to guests up to and including their names and contact information in the event a claim arises.

    @John Racine thanks for the kind words on the turnover piece. Measuring each step is a small step but it can make a big impact!

  • Michael BaumPro Member
    Olympia, WA · Member since 2016 · 8k+ posts · 7k+ votes
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    I am still going to ask guests to take all the towels to the nearest tub, put all the dishes in the dishwasher and run it and take all the trash out to the cans.

    Easy jobs that take maybe 10 minutes.

    If I get any flack from AirBNB, I will shut down the listing and rely on VRBO. I am done getting screwed over.

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