Using property inspection as an entrance to real estate

Using property inspection as an entrance to real estate

New to Real Estate · Cincinnati Ohio · Member since 2022 · 7 posts · 9 votes

Hello, fellow real estate enthusiasts!

First things first, let's talk about my background. I'm currently a college student at the University of Cincinnati, working hard to expand my knowledge and skill set. But that's not all—I'm also a full-time employee at Procter and Gamble, making strides in my professional career. However, I've got big dreams in the real estate realm, and I've been actively studying the market for about a year now, preparing to make some serious moves.

So, what's my game plan, you ask? Well, I've got my eyes locked on value-add opportunities in the form of single-family homes (SFH) and small multi-family properties. These properties hold immense potential for me to create value and generate solid returns. As of now, I've diligently saved nearly $15,000 specifically for my real estate investments.

Now, here's the challenge that many investors face—lending agencies for BRRRR (Buy, Rehab, Rent, Refinance, Repeat) properties often require a substantial down payment, usually ranging from 20% to 25%. It's a barrier to entry, especially for newcomers like myself. However, I'm not discouraged. I'm always on the lookout for alternative strategies to overcome this hurdle. One option that has caught my attention is the concept of house hacking. It's a compelling strategy, but due to my existing lease agreement until the end of summer 2024, I'll have to explore this avenue at a later date.

Now, let's talk about the exciting possibilities in creative financing. While I continue to accumulate capital for the traditional down payment or wait for a house hacking opportunity, I find myself considering alternative financing options such as subject-to and seller financing. I'm fully aware that my lack of experience may increase the risk associated with these deals, but I embrace the challenge and the potential for growth.

Recently, I received valuable advice that intrigued me—becoming a certified home inspector with the state of Ohio. This certification would allow me to leverage my knowledge and skills to inspect properties, not only earning profits but also gaining crucial hands-on experience. However, I want to clarify that I have no intention of transitioning into full-time home inspection since my current W2 income offers substantial earning potential.

Here's where I could really use your expertise, my fellow investors. Do you believe this aspiration is feasible for someone in my position? Should I establish an independent inspector business under an LLC structure, or would it be more prudent to seek employment with a company that can accommodate my available hours? Additionally, I'd love to hear your insights on the profitability of this venture as a side hustle and its effectiveness in providing me with the experience I seek as a beginner. Your wisdom is greatly appreciated, and I eagerly await your valuable input!

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Rental Property Investor · Concord, NC · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 3k+ votes
3y

...becoming a certified home inspector with the state of Ohio. This certification would allow me to leverage my knowledge and skills to inspect properties, not only earning profits but also gaining crucial hands-on experience.

Wonderfully smart approach.  Funny how you cannot swing a dead cat in this forum without hitting 10 wannabe wholesalers while hardly anyone mentions this approach, learning a skilled trade, getting their GC, etc. 

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  • Sam McCormackBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Cincinnati, OH/NKY · Member since 2021 · 1k+ posts · 833 votes
    3y

    Hell yeah! 

    Instead of a full BRRRR, can you try an FHA203k? It won't give the full effect of a BRRRR but will provide a lot more equity something like turnkey, and gives you a good amount of capital! Let me know what you think!

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  • New to Real Estate · Cincinnati Ohio · Member since 2022 · 7 posts · 9 votes
    3y

    Good evening Sam, I hope you are well today. 

    I have briefly thought about a FHA203K. 

    From my understanding, similar to a traditional FHA, I would need to occupy the property for 1 year. This is a good alternative to "house hacking" a traditional FHA load since the added value will build equity and force appreciation. Do you or anyone from the forums know if I am able to do a cash out refinance on a FHA203K?

    This is a good way to get the feel of a BRRRR without having to save 20-25% for a down payment.

    Thank you for the advice! 

  • Rental Property Investor · Concord, NC · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    3y

    ...becoming a certified home inspector with the state of Ohio. This certification would allow me to leverage my knowledge and skills to inspect properties, not only earning profits but also gaining crucial hands-on experience.

    Wonderfully smart approach.  Funny how you cannot swing a dead cat in this forum without hitting 10 wannabe wholesalers while hardly anyone mentions this approach, learning a skilled trade, getting their GC, etc. 

  • Hamp Lee IIIPro Member
    Real Estate Agent · San Antonio, TX · Member since 2019 · 1k+ posts · 832 votes
    3y

    Welcome to BiggerPockets!

    I really like the idea. It gives you an opportunity to learn the market and meet great people…maybe an investor or two.

    I also recommend working under another company to keep things simple. You have a lot going on already.

    I wish you all the best.

  • Specialist · Columbus, OH · Member since 2019 · 110 posts · 102 votes
    3y

    A respectable approach and one that I took myself! Like you, I became a home inspector for several reasons; to make myself a more knowledgeable investor, to fully immerse myself in real estate, and to network and meet others in real estate. 

    I see a few key differences however, as I did come into it full time, and am going at it solo, essentially building a business from zero, which is no easy feat. Also probably not recommended if you are already earning well with your W2, it may be counterintuitive. 

    As with starting any venture, inspection or otherwise, you should expect to make no money for the first 2 years. The road is full of ups and downs and countless unforeseen challenges, including building trust with your referrers (which takes considerable time and energy that you will not get paid for), and all of the other behind the scenes of building a business; websites, social medias, accounting, marketing, etc etc etc. 

    As @Hamp Lee III suggested, it may be wiser for you to join an existing company, but a major tradeoff there will be that you will likely sacrifice control over your time, as you'll be at the mercy of your new (or second) employer. But keep in mind a vast majority of inspectors are solo and there a number of reasons for this that are beyond the scope of this topic.

    Also worth considering: how much familiarity to you already have with building systems? Will the coursework and exams be mostly review for you? Or will you be absorbing all of this content from scratch? 

    I had already flipped a few homes when I took the plunge, so a lot of the material was familiar to me already, and STILL learned a ton. It really is a lot of material, and the licensing exams aren't particularly easy. You will be expected to know a lot of material, and be able to apply the information with practical applications. I've copied the NHIE (National Home Inspector Exam) textbook table of contents below for your convenience. You should know this material front to back before taking the licensing test. 

    Volume 1 Contents; Mechanical Systems

    Volume 2 Structural & Business

    There are also 120 (minimum) hours of education required. As well as needing to perform actual inspections (aka parallel inspections) under the guidance of a licensed inspector before being granted a license. Here's the full requirements laid out in more detail:  https://www.nachi.org/licensin...

    If you are serious and determined, and make it through the education requirements, I would be open to helping you with the parallel inspections & peer review portion of the requirements. 

    All that said, I have found the experience to be extremely rewarding, both personally and professionally, and the satisfaction that comes from helping my clients understand their homes and navigate the defects discovered makes it all worthwhile (One of my inspections just saved a client $42K on their deal price!) Not to mention the fact that when I look at my own homes to purchase, I  know exactly what to look for and this knowledge will be with me for a lifetime.

  • Specialist · Columbus, OH · Member since 2019 · 110 posts · 102 votes
    3y

    Also, you mentioned a challenge you're facing to househacking was that you are already in a lease. So was I when I bought my first home! I ended up buying it from my landlord so I didn't even have to break the lease (or move). Couldn't hurt to mention your goals to your landlord, maybe selling is on their mind?

  • Real Estate Agent · Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2015 · 474 posts · 580 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Kyle Giess:

    Hello, fellow real estate enthusiasts!

    First things first, let's talk about my background. I'm currently a college student at the University of Cincinnati, working hard to expand my knowledge and skill set. But that's not all—I'm also a full-time employee at Procter and Gamble, making strides in my professional career. However, I've got big dreams in the real estate realm, and I've been actively studying the market for about a year now, preparing to make some serious moves.

    So, what's my game plan, you ask? Well, I've got my eyes locked on value-add opportunities in the form of single-family homes (SFH) and small multi-family properties. These properties hold immense potential for me to create value and generate solid returns. As of now, I've diligently saved nearly $15,000 specifically for my real estate investments.

    Now, here's the challenge that many investors face—lending agencies for BRRRR (Buy, Rehab, Rent, Refinance, Repeat) properties often require a substantial down payment, usually ranging from 20% to 25%. It's a barrier to entry, especially for newcomers like myself. However, I'm not discouraged. I'm always on the lookout for alternative strategies to overcome this hurdle. One option that has caught my attention is the concept of house hacking. It's a compelling strategy, but due to my existing lease agreement until the end of summer 2024, I'll have to explore this avenue at a later date.

    Now, let's talk about the exciting possibilities in creative financing. While I continue to accumulate capital for the traditional down payment or wait for a house hacking opportunity, I find myself considering alternative financing options such as subject-to and seller financing. I'm fully aware that my lack of experience may increase the risk associated with these deals, but I embrace the challenge and the potential for growth.

    Recently, I received valuable advice that intrigued me—becoming a certified home inspector with the state of Ohio. This certification would allow me to leverage my knowledge and skills to inspect properties, not only earning profits but also gaining crucial hands-on experience. However, I want to clarify that I have no intention of transitioning into full-time home inspection since my current W2 income offers substantial earning potential.

    Here's where I could really use your expertise, my fellow investors. Do you believe this aspiration is feasible for someone in my position? Should I establish an independent inspector business under an LLC structure, or would it be more prudent to seek employment with a company that can accommodate my available hours? Additionally, I'd love to hear your insights on the profitability of this venture as a side hustle and its effectiveness in providing me with the experience I seek as a beginner. Your wisdom is greatly appreciated, and I eagerly await your valuable input!


     There is a lot to unpack here and a lot of valuable comments already, but I will focus on the business aspect of it. In my opinion an inspection job or business will not make you a better investor or be the best use of your limited time. It is not a scalable skill that will lead to building a large portfolio down the road. If you plan to scale a large business to replace your income that could be an option but as far as helping you with investing I disagree. I would personally use that same time to find and underwrite great deals. Building our deal flow and understanding what a good deal looks like will make you hundreds of thousands of dollars overtime, instead of saving you $500-600 per inspection or making you the same amount per inspection. If your goal is to leave the W-2 job to grow a business that could be an option, but finding good deals would still be a more valuable skill and likely more profitable if you monetize it. Happy to chat if you have any questions! Best of luck!  

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