How are people getting these big lines of credit?

How are people getting these big lines of credit?

Member since 2021 · 17 posts · 3 votes

I have investor clients tell me about their giant lines of credit available for cash purchases... in your experience, are these relationships with local banks? private money?

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Investor · La Quinta, CA · Member since 2017 · 26 posts · 4 votes
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  • Jason WrayPro Member
    Banker · Nationwide · Member since 2020 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    Nicole,

    If it's a primary home the buyer can take out up to 95% CLTV and some banks do not have a Max credit line. Some have a cut off of $500K to $1MM so the equity can be taken out through a cash out refinance or a HELOC. Investment properties are usually capped at 65%-70% CLTV depending on the number of units/property type.

    You also have DSCR which offers cash out up to $1.5Million without using any personal income or tax returns as long as the property debt services itself usually 1.10-1.25%DSCR on Jumbo Cash out. Cash out is getting easier to obtain since mortgage applications are down new programs and LTV's are popping up each week.

    Biggest market right now is investment purchase and cash out refinance so the banks are catering to the customers. They are also trying to capture the next purchase when offering the cash out.

  • Andrew PostellPro Member
    Lender · Fort Worth, TX · Member since 2016 · 8k+ posts · 6k+ votes
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    @Nicole Davidson there's ALL types of things out there that the average person cannot get access to.  Some Lines of Credit are based on assets, some are based on experience, some are relationship based, etc.  Usually, someone just starting out cannot get a GIANT line of credit..."Giant" being a relative term though.  What's "giant" to you might not be "giant" to me.  But some large companies have lines of credit in the $100million range.  It's all relative I guess.  So, if you are just starting out, the plan here is to figure out where you want to go in your real estate career and then someone out there can put you in the right place for financing.

    Hope all of that makes sense.

  • Member since 2021 · 17 posts · 3 votes
    2y
    Quote from @Andrew Postell:

    @Nicole Davidson there's ALL types of things out there that the average person cannot get access to.  Some Lines of Credit are based on assets, some are based on experience, some are relationship based, etc.  Usually, someone just starting out cannot get a GIANT line of credit..."Giant" being a relative term though.  What's "giant" to you might not be "giant" to me.  But some large companies have lines of credit in the $100million range.  It's all relative I guess.  So, if you are just starting out, the plan here is to figure out where you want to go in your real estate career and then someone out there can put you in the right place for financing.

    Hope all of that makes sense.

    thank you! I have flipper friends with $5,000,000 credit so I bet its based on experience. I want to buy and rehab or fix and flip depending on deal. 

  • Russell BrazilBusiness Member
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    Real Estate Agent · Washington, D.C. · Member since 2012 · 17k+ posts · 30k+ votes
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    I have 3 lines of credit. Business line of credit, HELOC, and a line of credit against my stock portfolio.

  • Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
    Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
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    Quote from @Nicole Davidson:
    Quote from @Andrew Postell:

    @Nicole Davidson there's ALL types of things out there that the average person cannot get access to.  Some Lines of Credit are based on assets, some are based on experience, some are relationship based, etc.  Usually, someone just starting out cannot get a GIANT line of credit..."Giant" being a relative term though.  What's "giant" to you might not be "giant" to me.  But some large companies have lines of credit in the $100million range.  It's all relative I guess.  So, if you are just starting out, the plan here is to figure out where you want to go in your real estate career and then someone out there can put you in the right place for financing.

    Hope all of that makes sense.

    thank you! I have flipper friends with $5,000,000 credit so I bet its based on experience. I want to buy and rehab or fix and flip depending on deal. 


    i dont know..  Lima one will give you a commitment for 5 mil if your experienced but its not a line of credit per se .  It will be based on the property and the borrowers continuing success.. I was offered one from them and I think they wanted 10k or 20k up front for it.

    For a true unsecured LOC that you can draw on anytime to get 5 il you will need very large net worth etc in the range of 10 to 1 and relationships.. Commerical banks provide these to their close clients but they are very hard to get and keep also keep in mind those types of LOC's have to be retired annually for 30 days thats how mine work.

  • Investor · La Quinta, CA · Member since 2017 · 26 posts · 4 votes
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  • Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
    Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
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    Quote from @Dan Ruzicka:

    good explanation of a TRUE Unsecured LOC  another words a signature loan like a CC. they are very difficult to get if your not a very experienced in the business have a commercial banker who likes you and trust you along with substantial deposit relationships..  Especially today..
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