For those further along: What targeted training would you actually recommend?

For those further along: What targeted training would you actually recommend?

Member since 2025 · 4 posts · 2 votes

Hi everyone,

I just read a post by Chris Seveny about the next “guru training” or shiny object to watch out for this year, and it really resonated with me.

I’m newer to real estate and very much in the absorbing-information / foundation-building stage of my journey. I’ve been learning through YouTube, podcasts, and forums (including BP), but I’m finding that while there’s a ton of information, it’s not in a structure that I personally need to learn methodically.

What I’m really looking for is:

• A focused, fundamentals-first training

• Something that builds real skill and decision-making, not hype

• Education you’d recommend if you were starting over today

• Ideally something that helps bridge the gap between “learning” and taking smart action

For those of you who are experienced:

• What training, program, or learning path actually moved the needle for you?

• If you were mentoring a beginner, where would you tell them to invest their time (and possibly money)?

• Are there any programs you think are worth it—or ones beginners should avoid entirely?

I’m not looking for shortcuts—just solid guidance and a clear path to competence.

Really appreciate any insight from those further along.

Thank you in advance.

— Natalia

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Joe VilleneuvePro Member
Plymouth, MI · Member since 2013 · 13k+ posts · 19k+ votes
9mo

Learn how to analyze markets, not properties.  Markets dictate the value of properties, not the other way around.

also, just as important, learn about how money works specifically as it applies to REI. This means learning as many strategies as you can. The combination of market analysis and strategies will allow you to make deals. Deals are not found, they are made. The more markets you find that work, and the more strategies you learn will allow you to take advantage of those markets, and thus make real deals.

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  • Joe VilleneuvePro Member
    Plymouth, MI · Member since 2013 · 13k+ posts · 19k+ votes
    9mo

    Learn how to analyze markets, not properties.  Markets dictate the value of properties, not the other way around.

    also, just as important, learn about how money works specifically as it applies to REI. This means learning as many strategies as you can. The combination of market analysis and strategies will allow you to make deals. Deals are not found, they are made. The more markets you find that work, and the more strategies you learn will allow you to take advantage of those markets, and thus make real deals.

  • Chris SeveneyBusiness Member
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    Investor · VA · Member since 2015 · 21k+ posts · 19k+ votes
    9mo
    What are you looking to get into? Are you interested in buying a rental property, doing a fix and flip, investing in another alternative like tax liens or mortgage notes. It appears you are in LA as well so I would strongly recommend joining one of the local REIA’s first and just be a sponge absorbing information. Also what is your background ? Reason I ask is for example / someone who is a chef and nutritionist and deals a lot with people and manages their own business with has an operations background would be different than someone in accounting who sits in an office all day long. Ps: one last thought, one thing I used to do is listened to podcast and write down questions and then research those later for answers
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  • John UnderwoodPro Member
    Investor · Greer, SC · Member since 2014 · 13k+ posts · 17k+ votes
    9mo

    Stay away from the Guru charging thousands of dollars.

    Two books I recommend:

    1. Rich Dad Poor Dad

    2.The Small and Mighty Investor - by Chad Carson.

    There is so much free info here on BP and everyone is very willing to answer questions in all the Forums.

  • Nicholas L.Pro Member
    Flipper/Rehabber · Pittsburgh · Member since 2018 · 6k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    9mo

    @Natalia Narsa

    -i recommend in person networking with other local investors.  so - can you find other local investors?  maybe even use BP to find other beginner local investors.  start a group, learn from each other.  the best will be people that are slightly ahead of you.  i cannot overemphasize the value of actual local humans over "training" and courses.

    -ask all the questions you want when you find them, see if you can take them out for coffee and just talk.

    -don't pay for anything yet.

    -also: do you have money?  you need money to invest.  if you don't have money, you'll need to save up money.

    hope this helps.  there are no shortcuts or secret formulas.

  • Joey BanasihanPro Member
    Investor · Boise, ID · Member since 2019 · 236 posts · 188 votes
    9mo

    Hey @Natalia Narsa - I totally get your questions and where you’re coming from, but when I was doing my “foundation building” I think it was really just delaying the part where I had to make a decision and live with it.

    What actually moved the needle for me wasn’t a course or a program, it was taking reasonable action with reasonable risk. That’s where the real learning happens. You learn how to be creative, how deals actually behave, and what questions matter once money is involved. No amount of content replaces that.

    The other big piece is who you’re learning around. I connected with someone who was actively investing and also an agent, and who was well connected and had access to a lot of resources. From there I took the leap. That doesn’t mean I avoided uncomfortable situations, or didn’t have hard decisions to make, or didn’t make some small financial errors. But the creativity I learned, the ability to adapt, and how much knowledge I gained was easily 10x anything I got from a mentorship or program.

    If I were starting over, I’d spend less time searching for the “right” education and more time getting close to people doing the kind of investing I want to do, then taking a first step that’s survivable even if it’s not perfect.

  • Bruce WoodruffPro Member
    Contractor/Investor/Consultant · San Diego / Phoenix · Member since 2021 · 12k+ posts · 15k+ votes
    9mo

    I also would not get involved with any Mentor or program that charges money....at least any amount over $500 or so. As @John Underwood said, this Forum is like having a built-in Mentor.

    I would use the next year to LEARN AND SAVE. Ask questions on this forum constantly! Maybe you'll find some folks willing to do a few calls or meetings with you.....

    Learn everything you can about Real Estate, get a license perhaps just for the heck of it.....work/volunteer at a local office on Saturdays, answer phones, help with showings.

    Also learn construction....volunteer with Habitat For Humanity or one of the Veterans Housing Organizations.....watch YouTube videos, etc...

    Just my $.02, good luck! Contact me if you have questions...

    • Real Estate Agent · Metro Detroit · Member since 2026 · 4 posts · 2 votes
      8mo
      Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:

      I also would not get involved with any Mentor or program that charges money....at least any amount over $500 or so. As @John Underwood said, this Forum is like having a built-in Mentor.

      I would use the next year to LEARN AND SAVE. Ask questions on this forum constantly! Maybe you'll find some folks willing to do a few calls or meetings with you.....

      Learn everything you can about Real Estate, get a license perhaps just for the heck of it.....work/volunteer at a local office on Saturdays, answer phones, help with showings.

      Also learn construction....volunteer with Habitat For Humanity or one of the Veterans Housing Organizations.....watch YouTube videos, etc...

      Just my $.02, good luck! Contact me if you have questions...


      The Habitat for Humanity tip is gold!!

  • Investor · Get yourself trained before doing something inadvisable. · Member since 2024 · 3k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    9mo
    Quote from @Natalia Narsa:

    Hi everyone,

    I just read a post by Chris Seveny about the next “guru training” or shiny object to watch out for this year, and it really resonated with me.

    I’m newer to real estate and very much in the absorbing-information / foundation-building stage of my journey. I’ve been learning through YouTube, podcasts, and forums (including BP), but I’m finding that while there’s a ton of information, it’s not in a structure that I personally need to learn methodically.

    What I’m really looking for is:

    • A focused, fundamentals-first training

    • Something that builds real skill and decision-making, not hype

    • Education you’d recommend if you were starting over today

    • Ideally something that helps bridge the gap between “learning” and taking smart action

    For those of you who are experienced:

    • What training, program, or learning path actually moved the needle for you?

    • If you were mentoring a beginner, where would you tell them to invest their time (and possibly money)?

    • Are there any programs you think are worth it—or ones beginners should avoid entirely?

    I’m not looking for shortcuts—just solid guidance and a clear path to competence.

    Really appreciate any insight from those further along.

    Thank you in advance.

    — Natalia

    Real estate investing has so many angles, because there are so many opportunities. It's best to decide what kind of an investor you are, before going down any particular path.

    Some like being passive, some like being strategic, some like tried and true, some like high profit low risk, some like low profit and no risk, some choose out of state but high management, some like local properties and self management and so on.

    Personally, I think your goal of how much effort you want to put into it and how much safety/risk you'll tolerate, make up a huge amount of how successful you will be. There are a lot of forces working against you. Taxes, interest rates, migration, neighborhood, time, unexpected government edicts and the list goes on.

    I used to think for instance, that creative finance works for everybody, if they apply themselves. I was wrong. That's not true. Traditional schooling doesn't provide that. It has to be learned outside of college.

    It turns out, after years of working with individual people and answering questions on Bigger Pockets, I now believe thar applied natural intelligence and creativity play a much larger role than people realize. Traditional education isn't what I'm talking about. It takes the ability to analyze properties and analyze market conditions and then project a couple of possible results, within a changing world, to be  greatly successful at investing. Most people are just not built for that.

    So, if you are not analytical, stick to the basics. If you are capable of thinking of more than one outcome at a time, try being more creative. There is great wealth in successfully using creativity and in my opinion, less work. 

  • Kerlous TadresBusiness Member
    Realtor · Columbus, OH · Member since 2023 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    9mo

    @Natalia Narsa, I’d recommend skipping guru programs and instead underwrite 50 deals in one market, then learn locally by touring rentals with a PM/contractor/lender so you can confidently take smart action on a simple first deal.

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    • Real Estate Agent · Metro Detroit · Member since 2026 · 4 posts · 2 votes
      8mo
      Quote from @Kerlous Tadres:

      @Natalia Narsa, I’d recommend skipping guru programs and instead underwrite 50 deals in one market, then learn locally by touring rentals with a PM/contractor/lender so you can confidently take smart action on a simple first deal.

      Would hypothetical underwriting of deals act as a good idea if you’re starting out? 
    • Kerlous TadresBusiness Member
      Realtor · Columbus, OH · Member since 2023 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
      8mo
      Quote from @Yolanda Smith Charles:
      Quote from @Kerlous Tadres:

      @Natalia Narsa, I’d recommend skipping guru programs and instead underwrite 50 deals in one market, then learn locally by touring rentals with a PM/contractor/lender so you can confidently take smart action on a simple first deal.

      Would hypothetical underwriting of deals act as a good idea if you’re starting out? 

      It's a good idea, but don't get too carried away with analysis paralysis. Find someone who has done fix-and-flips then go from there

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  • Real Estate Consultant · Ann Arbor, MI · Member since 2022 · 466 posts · 257 votes
    9mo

    Hi Natalia from Los Angelos County, California-

    Congratulations on being a new real estate investor and educating yourself with YouTube, podcasts, and forums.

    You asked about a focused, fundamentals first, training.

    Learning as a real estate investor never ends and the market is always changing.

    That being said, I would absorb enough to get started and then commit to taking action in a market you are interested in if not your local market.

    The newer investors we work with do well buying value-add duplexes to begin. There are several markets in Michigan where you can do this with a $140,000 plus or minus purchase price. This allows you to get started at an affordable price point, you should always have a rent check coming in, we have local property manager partners in these communities that can handle repairs, unit turns, and rehabs, we have the other team members you will need to make an informed and profitable investment, and you should be able to shortly refinance out our downpayment and go shopping again. You will learn as you practice with experienced mentors as your guide.

    To Your Success!

  • Drew SygitBusiness Member
    Property Manager · Royal Oak, MI · Member since 2012 · 12k+ posts · 9k+ votes
    9mo
    Quote from @Natalia Narsa:

    Hi everyone,

    I just read a post by Chris Seveny about the next “guru training” or shiny object to watch out for this year, and it really resonated with me.

    I’m newer to real estate and very much in the absorbing-information / foundation-building stage of my journey. I’ve been learning through YouTube, podcasts, and forums (including BP), but I’m finding that while there’s a ton of information, it’s not in a structure that I personally need to learn methodically.

    What I’m really looking for is:

    • A focused, fundamentals-first training

    • Something that builds real skill and decision-making, not hype

    • Education you’d recommend if you were starting over today

    • Ideally something that helps bridge the gap between “learning” and taking smart action

    For those of you who are experienced:

    • What training, program, or learning path actually moved the needle for you?

    • If you were mentoring a beginner, where would you tell them to invest their time (and possibly money)?

    • Are there any programs you think are worth it—or ones beginners should avoid entirely?

    I’m not looking for shortcuts—just solid guidance and a clear path to competence.

    Really appreciate any insight from those further along.

    Thank you in advance.

    — Natalia


    All great advice so far!

    Add - be as FOCUSED as possible!

    Too many newbies keep chasing "shiny objects" and trying to do too much in the beginning. 

    Figure out what you want to do and really narrow it down, so you can learn it well and succeed at it.

    THEN, you can add to your knowledge and grow into additional options.

  • Doug SmithPro Member
    Lender · Tampa, FL · Member since 2013 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    8mo

    I would avoid a classroom or online training and find a partner in your area that knows what they are doing. That's how we started. I was a lender, but didn't know the construction or flip game...I just financed them. I provided capital and lending expertise to a local operator that knew the stuff I didn't.  I made many mistakes over my first few deals, but my learning curve was exponential. Most gurus are much better at selling courses than actually doing deals. My suggestion: think about what you bring to the table...capital, a trade, a lot to build on, etc...what is it that a knowledgable partner might need to entice them to partner with you on a few deals. You'll learn more doing that then paying someone that was "working fast food a month ago but they unlocked the secrets of getting rich through real estate." I wish you well. 

  • Real Estate Consultant · USA · Member since 2025 · 36 posts · 16 votes
    8mo

    Underwrite deals daily, document your process, and start talking to operators doing the kind of deals you want to do. That’s the fastest way to build real skill.

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