Estimating vacancy, repairs, and capex
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Member since 2026 · 29 posts · 11 votes
6hI'd stop thinking in percentages for capex and build it from the systems instead: list the roof, HVAC, water heater, windows and so on, note each one's age, and divide its replacement cost by the years it has left. That gives you a monthly number that reflects the actual house, which is why a 90-year-old property can need far more than 5% while a fresh rehab needs less. For repairs, ask the seller for the last couple of years of repair invoices or their Schedule E if they'll share it, since that's real history instead of a guess. For vacancy, look at how long comparable rentals sit on the local listing sites and add the turn cost (cleaning, paint, utilities while it's empty). Then run the deal at a pessimistic case too, and only buy if it still works there.
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- Realtor · Memphis, Shelby County · Member since 2026 · 133 posts · 43 votes7h
You are right to question a flat 5% or 3% for every property, because age, condition, and property type change the risk in ways a single percentage cannot capture. I find it clearer to separate the three buckets instead of blending them into one allowance.
Vacancy is about time between tenants and turnover costs, so I look at how long similar homes take to lease and what a turn usually costs. Repairs are the smaller, recurring items that keep a home rentable. Capital expenses are different: they are the big, infrequent items such as a roof, HVAC system, or water heater, and those are better estimated from age and remaining life than from rent alone.
That is why a single-family home and a duplex of the same size can need different reserves. A roof may be one shared cost, while other systems can multiply. For an older home, I would itemize the major systems, test the deal with a higher reserve, and only move forward if it still works. If a deal only works at the most optimistic allowance, I treat that as a warning, not a rounding choice.
- Real Estate Agent · Chicago, IL · Member since 2017 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes7h
Completely disregard anything the list agent sends you for numbers lol. I run through each deal with my clients deal by deal. It won't be a set percent but rather fixed numbers per property type, as the figures will be the same for a $1 million 4-unit or a $500k 4-unit. For example, in my market for a 4 unit in decent shape estimate $500 a month for capex reserves per month. For a 2 unit $300 or so a month, if the building runs on an old boiler heat I would avoid the deal or bump this up higher and also bump up water bill expectations higher. Vacancy depends on area, on the northside of chicago it runs 2 to 3% with close to 0 defaults with proper screening while in some lower income or working class areas of city it runs 8 to 10% and you should expect the occasional default. Find a good local investor realtor and they can help make these figures specific to your area.
- Member since 2026 · 29 posts · 11 votes6h
I'd stop thinking in percentages for capex and build it from the systems instead: list the roof, HVAC, water heater, windows and so on, note each one's age, and divide its replacement cost by the years it has left. That gives you a monthly number that reflects the actual house, which is why a 90-year-old property can need far more than 5% while a fresh rehab needs less. For repairs, ask the seller for the last couple of years of repair invoices or their Schedule E if they'll share it, since that's real history instead of a guess. For vacancy, look at how long comparable rentals sit on the local listing sites and add the turn cost (cleaning, paint, utilities while it's empty). Then run the deal at a pessimistic case too, and only buy if it still works there.
- Property Manager · Denver, CO · Member since 2026 · 8 posts · 6 votes6h
+1 to building capex from the systems. On vacancy I'd do the math off how often it turns, not just how long it sits. Vacancy % is roughly days empty per turnover divided by how long the average tenant stays.
So if a turn takes 30 days and tenants stay about 2.5 years (~900 days) thats around 3%. Same 30 days with tenants who leave every year is closer to 8%. Single family tends to hold tenants longer than small multifamily in a lot of markets, which is another reason one % doesn't fit both.
For the days empty part, count the clean/paint time before it's even listed plus the days on market. I'd also ask the seller for the current tenants' move-in dates, it tells you a lot about turnover in that building.
- Staten Island, NY · Member since 2013 · 106 posts · 43 votes5h
I'm a realtor on Staten Island and I run numbers on small multifamily a lot, so here's what I actually use. For a 2 to 4 unit in decent shape I'd put capex around 250 to 500 a month total depending on the age of the roof, boiler and plumbing, instead of a percent of rent. Vacancy I set by area, about 3 to 5% where tenants stay put and 8% or more where turnover is high. Repairs I put at roughly 5 to 8% of rent, and I bump it up if I see old galvanized pipes or knob and tube wiring when I walk it. I'd also stop trusting whatever the listing agent puts on the flyer and rebuild it with your own numbers. If it only works at 3% across the board, it's not really a deal.
- 50mDrew SygitBusiness MemberProperty Manager · Royal Oak, MI · Member since 2012 · 13k+ posts · 9k+ votes
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Key metrics for each Property Class:
Class A Properties:
Tenant Pool: Majority of FICO scores 680+, no convictions/evictions in last 7 years.
Tenant Default: 0-5% probability of eviction or early lease termination.
Section 8: Class A rents are too high and won’t be approved.
Vacancies: 5-10%, depending on market conditions.
Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, 3-5 years for positive cashflow, but you get highest relative rent & value appreciation.Class B Properties:
Tenant Pool: Majority of FICO scores 620-680, some blemishes, no convictions/evictions in last 5 years.
Tenant Default: 5-10% probability of eviction or early lease termination.
Vacancies: 10-15%, depending on market conditions.
Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, 1-3 years for positive cashflow, balanced amounts of relative rent & value appreciation.
Section 8: Class B rents are usually too high for the Section 8 program.Class C Properties:
Tenant Pool: Majority of FICO scores 560-620, many blemishes, but should have no convictions/evictions in last 3 years. Verifying recent 2-years of rental history very important! Same for 2-years of job/income stability.
Tenant Default: 10-20% probability of eviction or early lease termination.
Section 8: Class C rents usually meet program requirements, proper screening still recommended.
Vacancies: 10-20%, depending on market conditions and tenant screening.
Cashflow vs Appreciation: Should cashflow immediately, at the lower end of relative rent & value appreciation.
Class D Properties:
Tenant Pool: Majority of FICO scores under 560, little to no good tradelines, lots of collections & chargeoffs, but should have no convictions/evictions in last 12 months. Verifying last 2-years of rental history and income/employment extremely important to find the “best of the worst”.
Tenant Default: 20-30% probability of eviction or early lease termination.
Section 8: Class D rents meet program requirements, often challenges to pass Section 8 inspection.
Vacancies: 20%+, depending on market conditions and tenant screening.
Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, all cashflow with little, maybe even negative, relative rent & value appreciation.Where did we get our FICO credit score information from?
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FICO Score
Pct of Population
Default Probability
800 or more
13.00%
1.00%
750-799
27.00%
1.00%
700-749
18.00%
4.40%
650-699
15.00%
8.90%
600-649
12.00%
15.80%
550-599
8.00%
22.50%
500-549
5.00%
28.40%
Less than 499
2.00%
41.00%
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