Investing for 15 years compared to brokerage account

Investing for 15 years compared to brokerage account

Minneapolis, MN · Member since 2015 · 30 posts · 19 votes

I have been reading the site and other resources for a few weeks. This will be a wall of text, but I've thought this through and hope someone can check my math and assumptions about how this works.

My goal is to compare 15 years of real estate investment using a $60k base cash investment plus $12k injected personal cash per year. I am comparing it to a taxable brokerage account (since I already max my 401k and IRAs) which would receive the same base and injections. As a "model" property, I used a 4-unit property in my area selling for $225k with monthly rents of $695/unit. I used estimated costs for cleaning, utilities, property tax, mortgage interest, insurance, professional services, etc, and guessed repairs would be 2% of the property value per year. It came out about the same as using the 50% rule and adding in the mortgage. Either way, this gives me 1/3 of rents in cash flow per year. I would need to put down $60k in principal and closing costs for the first year. In return I would receive $10k in rental income or $7.2k after 28% income tax.

Using this house as the "model," I then map out future years to determine when I could buy my next property. For any year in which I would start on January 1 with a multiple of 60k in cash (from rental income plus excess personal cash), I buy another model property, using the same assumptions as the first. (I ignore inflation, since my rents and personal income will also inflate.)

According to this math, I would buy my 1st property this year, and then again in 2017, 2019, and 2021, until starting in 2023 where I buy one every year until 2029, when I could buy two properties per year. By 2030, my annual rental income for 14 properties would be $143k, or $103k after taxes. I would have over a 850k in equity. By contrast, the same cash injections and reinvestments of return on a brokerage account would have only yielded me 610k by this point. If another 15 years pass, by 2045 (at the ripe age of 60), I'd likely be done buying new properties, with a portfolio of 69 properties. Even so, at 60 I would have $4M in equity and $700k in annual rents, compared to just $2M in a brokerage account.

So, some hard truths. I didn't include management costs, but at some point, at around 5-10 properties (20-40 units), I imagine I would either need to quit my job or hire someone to help with management. This could eat some of the revenue and slow growth. By 60 in my example, I would have had 280 units -- definitely a full time job! This is napkin math, I didn't add inflation, so it's basically expressed in 2015 dollars throughout. Nor did I adjust taxes on my rental income for older properties that have less interest expense after, say, 15 years of ownership on a 30-year mortgage.

What am I missing? Do you see issues with my model assumption?

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  • Doug McLeodPro Member
    Investor · Cypress, TX · Member since 2014 · 496 posts · 205 votes
    11y

    The biggest thing you are missing is the power of depreciation.  Let's assume the Land portion of your $225K property is 20% of the property value, leaving $180K as the Building value for depreciation purposes (in reality, you would use the land valuation on your tax assessment to determine the split).  Using straight line depreciation over 27.5 years for the whole building (there are ways to get more by breaking down into components), you will have a paper expense for depreciation each year of more than $6,500, substantially reducing the taxable income.

    If you keep the property long enough to where the interest/principal shifts toward reducing the tax advantage from the interest, consider doing a 1031 exchange into another (larger) property and you can defer any capital gains, start depreciation over again, and increase your cash flow.

    In general, your assumptions on the RE investment are very conservative - reflecting a fairly inefficient way to buy a property (financially speaking). It is very possible to make 10-20% Cash on Cash returns on your $60K - most of it shielded from tax because of depreciation. If you stop your 401K and IRA contributions and divert them toward REI, you can buy more. You can also borrow half your 401K balance up to $50K if needed to help with cash flow for a time or to jump on a really good deal. Combine your REI earnings and diverted retirement contributions to continue buying cash flowing properties as fast as you can (and still manage them). You can be retired in 5 years - not 15.

  • Minneapolis, MN · Member since 2015 · 30 posts · 19 votes
    11y

    You're right, I forgot to factor in depreciation against taxes. in that regard, taxes are nearly eliminated. However, I also forgot to factor in equity as a cash cost but not an expense. Fixing for both of these errors, I still come out with the same schedule.

    Could you explain more about your last comment, regarding conservative assumptions and inefficiencies? My spreadsheet and plan should assume worst case, so I didn't want to use "perfect" numbers. But I'm interested in how I could triple the schedule -- as you said in 5 years not 15.

  • Doug McLeodPro Member
    Investor · Cypress, TX · Member since 2014 · 496 posts · 205 votes
    11y

    @Michael Clemson 

    Conservative and inefficient in terms of buying rent-ready at full price with high down payment. You can stretch your cash and increase your returns by buying distressed properties and maximizing leverage (while still keeping your ultimate LTV below 80%).

    Example: On my most recent SFR acquisition, I used private money to purchase a property with estimated ARV (after repair value) of $140k. But I did not put 20% down. Here are the numbers:

    Purchase price: $95,000

    Rehab: $20,000

    Closing etc: $5000 (includes fees for private lender and company handling acquisition for me)

    Private loan: $106,500 (6 mo, 12%)

    Out of pocket so far: $13,500

    Appraisal for Refi (closed~3 months after purchase): $150,000 (new ARV)

    30 yr mortgage: $112,500 (covers interest and principal payoff on private loan plus closing costs) 75% LTV

    Add'l out of pocket: $500

    Total out of pocket "all in": $14,000

    Rent: $1450

    PITI: $1044

    Maint & Vac: $206

    Remaining Cash flow: $200/mo or $2400/yr

    Cash on Cash return: 17%

    In this case I am paying someone else to manage this. If I were managing myself, I would be able to add another $100/mo to my cash flow for reinvestment purposes. 

    So without managing any yourself you could buy 4 like this with your $60k this year plus another 2 by year end with your $24k from saving and diverting retirement contrib. So you start year two with 6 properties and you can buy at least 3 more houses by end of year two. With these numbers and this strategy, it will take longer than 5 years, but with self management and  better (very achievable) numbers, you could have enough free cash flow to replace a $100k/yr income.

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