5 Valuable Rea$on$ Why New RE Investors Should Get Licensed

5 Valuable Rea$on$ Why New RE Investors Should Get Licensed

Flipper/Rehabber · Riverview, FL · Member since 2015 · 20 posts · 10 votes

It's true: you really don't need a real estate license to be a successful investor. Most people reading this already know that.

BUT…

There are five main reasons—and valuable ones, at that—for taking the exam and getting a RE license, no matter what your practice or profession. They're the same reasons that doctors and lawyers or any professional practitioner, for that matter, study, get qualified, and then get a license to practice their specialty.

Witness the on-going success of the Deeper Pockets website, in helping newbies get started and experienced investors get connected. It's that success that begs for this question about getting a RE license to be answered.

And it can only be answered properly if you're willing to look at all the tools available to you as an investor. A RE license is one of those tools, just as is Deeper Pockets.

To be, or not to be (licensed), that is the question (forgive my indiscretion, Bill).

Reason #1: Pure and simple—ACCESS to insiders' knowledge. It's important, so let me run that by you again—access to insiders' knowledge. Knowledge that most of us don't understand, much less have access to. Knowledge that is needed to be, not just good, but very good at what the RE investing profession demands, in terms of both education and legal requirements.

In the not so distant past, I worked as a professionally qualified field service engineer in the area of biomedical instrumentation. Not only did I have my engineering degree in electronics, I was technically, legally and professionally certified by every manufacturer of high-end biomedical equipment that I was employed by. Hands-on training, in a very technical field, with very specialized knowledge.

Why, you might ask, did I spend so much time getting degreed and certified?

Reason #2: I wanted—and needed—UNDERSTANDING of the technical aspects of my job, and to be able to conform to the rules and regulations that were applicable when it came to practicing biomedical engineering. And believe me, there were and are beau coup factors, both at the federal and local levels, that affected my ability to function as a professional biomedical engineer.

Same is true in the real estate profession: do you know what the federal and local rules and regulations are for that investment you're about to make? Do you even know where to look for that information? Otherwise, you may spend large amounts of your precious time researching information that is readily available to those who have a RE license, and subsequently have "insiders' knowledge."

Reason #3: EFFECTIVENESS, at using the tools of the trade. One of those tools is prime access to the MLS listings for your state. Access that would put you on the leading edge when it came to, literally, "seeing properties" before they became available to the buying public.

I can hear it already: But, I have a friend who is RE licensed and gives me hot tips on real estate deals. Why would I need to be licensed?

Let me ask you a question in return: Is your friend always available? By that, I mean, can you get them on the phone at a moment's notice, 24/7/365? Are they available to meet you at a property, exactly at the time you need to be there? How many times a day are they consulting the MLS for new deals—just for you—before another professionally licensed RE investor snaps them up?

Another of those tools should be apparent, and is an integral part of the next reason.

Reason #4: Your NETWORKING ability is magnified tenfold or more. Networking with more experienced RE brokers and sales people who are investors like yourself; more RE investor/bankers to help you with your financing; more RE investors to trade with and promote your deals.

Make no mistake. When I say network, I'm not referring to Facebook, Twitter, or even LinkedIn, although social networks should play a part in your marketing and advertising campaigns. If you're spending a lot of time trying to network via the social links, you're not focusing on RE, and you're definitely not focused on your RE investments.

You should be focusing almost exclusively on RE networks, like DP and RE investing groups and associations, RE conventions—anything associated with RE and RE investing.

If you don't eat, drink, sleep, and dream about RE, you're not focused. Great pianists don't get that way by playing Christmas carols or seamen's ditties. They get there by being obsessed, focused.

That's where you need to be. And completely and unremittingly unapologetic about it.

Reason #5: UPDATED information. If you're using any kind of specialty software on your computer, you already know that, occasionally, the authors publish new versions, with "up-to-date information," that typically resolve problems that arose with earlier versions.

The same can be said about RE. The information that might be provided about a property may be days or even weeks old by the time it becomes public knowledge. Is that the kind of information you want to base your investment on? Out dated? Really?

The time spent in a broker's office—even with paying a desk fee—is time well spent, since most brokers have their finger on the pulse of the communities they do business in. Their information, whether demographic, zoning, future neighborhood projects, or whatever, is usually being updated on a daily if not hourly basis.

They have people in the office, or know people outside the office, who have "insiders information" about these topics. And brokers are focused on keeping that information as "up-to-date" as possible. Even if it means having to pay someone to do nothing but keep it updated.

So, there you have it. Five valuable reasons for getting and keeping your RE license in your professional investing toolbox: Gaining Access and Understanding, improving your Effectiveness, magnifying your Networking abilities, and keeping yourself constantly Updated.

It's been said that information is power. How are you powering your business in RE investing? Are you using all the available tools?

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Flipper/Rehabber · Seattle, WA · Member since 2014 · 415 posts · 401 votes
11y

@Frank W Clark

You put some thought into your article here and I appreciate your point of view.

I agree with you that knowledge is power in the real estate game. I agree that having access to the MLS is a great key to the business. And I also HATE having to wait for a realtor to let me into a house on MLS because of the MLS lock box on the door.

What I would like to have you think about more though is the big picture when you are building an investment company.  It is one thing if you plan to do only a couple deals a year, then getting your license may benefit you greatly. It is another if you plan on doing volume.  You cannot do everything your self at that point.

I have learned over the years to use A LOT of different realtors, vet them out, get them to know the knowledge you need, get them to give it to you, get many of them working for you, THEY'RE FREE!  I would rather pay others to be up to date on any regulations and issues in the RE world here, and then have them share with me as I need the info, then to have to spend countless hours researching myself and taking me away from the business.

I think every investor has to evaluate their goals and based on what they plan on doing, will help determine whether to get a license or not, also their state will help determine that as well, some states are very easy and others are not when it comes to licensing. 

Remember that you cannot do everything yourself in this business.

I have thought of getting licensed for only two reasons over the years: referral fees, and opening the door to MLS properties.  Everything else I can have others do for me so I can focus on running the business, getting off markets, rehabs, acquisitions, marketing, team management, etc.  All things that come into play as you grow a business in RE Investing. 

Bottom line, get your license only if it is in line with your goals as an investor.

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  • Tarl YarberPro Member
    Flipper/Rehabber · Seattle, WA · Member since 2014 · 415 posts · 401 votes
    11y

    @Frank W Clark

    You put some thought into your article here and I appreciate your point of view.

    I agree with you that knowledge is power in the real estate game. I agree that having access to the MLS is a great key to the business. And I also HATE having to wait for a realtor to let me into a house on MLS because of the MLS lock box on the door.

    What I would like to have you think about more though is the big picture when you are building an investment company.  It is one thing if you plan to do only a couple deals a year, then getting your license may benefit you greatly. It is another if you plan on doing volume.  You cannot do everything your self at that point.

    I have learned over the years to use A LOT of different realtors, vet them out, get them to know the knowledge you need, get them to give it to you, get many of them working for you, THEY'RE FREE!  I would rather pay others to be up to date on any regulations and issues in the RE world here, and then have them share with me as I need the info, then to have to spend countless hours researching myself and taking me away from the business.

    I think every investor has to evaluate their goals and based on what they plan on doing, will help determine whether to get a license or not, also their state will help determine that as well, some states are very easy and others are not when it comes to licensing. 

    Remember that you cannot do everything yourself in this business.

    I have thought of getting licensed for only two reasons over the years: referral fees, and opening the door to MLS properties.  Everything else I can have others do for me so I can focus on running the business, getting off markets, rehabs, acquisitions, marketing, team management, etc.  All things that come into play as you grow a business in RE Investing. 

    Bottom line, get your license only if it is in line with your goals as an investor.

  • Investor · Whitttier, CA · Member since 2015 · 405 posts · 110 votes
    11y

    Very intuitive points guys, I find it such as waste of time to have to wait for my broker/agent retrieve information for me when I can simply do it myself. I'm sure I came out of the womb trying to feed myself and go to work, lol jk seriously, i have always wanted to be independent and do for myself. Having a license in REI means commitment and seriousness to me.

    That is my primary focus in obtaining my license. Although I have a graduate level education, it means squat in a world where I have to relearn everything from where to put a 4x4 vs a 4x2 and find out which way the floor joists are going before I cut the floor. First time doing a backsplash lol disaster. 

    Great advise guys. Look forward to seeing you around BP.

    warm regards,

    Davon

  • Flipper/Rehabber · Riverview, FL · Member since 2015 · 20 posts · 10 votes
    11y

    @Tarl Yarber

    Thanks for your comments. I appreciate your feedback, and respect your position as it relates to an experienced real estate investor. Your experience, obviously, is based on a "hands on" approach, a methodology that has been successful for your particular real estate investment interests.

    My article is mainly directed at newcomers to the field of real estate investing; those people who post questions here at DP who might not have any idea what to do first, in terms of their own investing potentials. Having even just a little experience as a licensee can be an invaluable way learn the basics of real estate in the relatively formal setting of a broker's office, even if the licensee doesn't renew the license at the end of it's term (as I did not renew).

    True, there is a plethora of valuable information here on DP, but finding specifics and putting them into practice can oft times be confusing and time consuming, and may not be a viable option for someone just starting out--except for its long-term value. 

    Networking is one of the most valuable tools an investor can use, to promote deals, to learn new practices and a whole host of other trade secrets. Why not multiply your investing options exponentially, by hooking up with other licensees as well as other seasoned investors?

    It's my position--iterated in this article--that connections made for the purposes of real estate investing are never wrong. Only the people and information behind those connections can sometimes be questionable.

    This is the very reason I believe in acquiring information validated by my own research first, and my connections second. If I turn to other licensees to accomplish that goal, more power to me; it saves invaluable time and effort to consult with someone who is already in the know.

    Like doctors, lawyers and other professionals, opinions about what to do are only gathered for purposes of reasoning out the final solution. Which is the originator's responsibility: after professional consultations, to decide the best course of action and implement it.

    The more up-to-date information you have, the easier it becomes to make that decision. And that's what newbies need, informed, reasoned decisions.

  • Wholesaler · Salt Lake City, UT · Member since 2009 · 1k+ posts · 401 votes
    11y

    Yes you don't need to be licensed to be an  investor, but if your going to be in real estate then be in real estate, all of it. The years I was an investor but an outsider to the licensed community were totally different then the years I was also a licensed broker. Even in dealing with any area of the business the reception I received as a broker-investor was far different than solely as an investor or broker. I wasn't someone who was supposed to swim in the south end of the lake or in the north end, the whole lake was mine.

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