Starting out with no credit

Starting out with no credit

Pacific, WA · Member since 2016 · 31 posts · 6 votes
I am wanting to start investing in real estate in my area using the BRRRR strategy and am currently looking at ways of buying properties. Now, since I have not built enough credit yet to obtain a mortgage on a property, my parents have offered to put the mortgage of my first property in their names (my name and theirs would be on the title) until I'm able to build enough credit to do it myself. I personally would be paying the mortgage loan on that property through them. they are not interested in being paid a portion of the cash flows so I would be taking all of the rental income to help me advance in future projects. Now, by doing this would they be only adding another liability to their name and increasing their debt to income ratio since they aren't receiving income from the rentals? In other words if I wanted to buy two or three more properties with their name on the mortgage would they eventually not be able to since their DTI Ratio would be so high?
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Waianae, HI · Member since 2016 · 111 posts · 47 votes
9y

Yes it would be difficult unless you chose a property where you house hack which would help for family and your situation. You could live practically free and build equity, in a year or two refinance and pull equity to purchase other properties. Perhaps house hack w/ a FHA loan.

Best of Luck, Great that you have family support, happy holidays!

Much aloha,

Danny

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  • Waianae, HI · Member since 2016 · 111 posts · 47 votes
    9y

    Yes it would be difficult unless you chose a property where you house hack which would help for family and your situation. You could live practically free and build equity, in a year or two refinance and pull equity to purchase other properties. Perhaps house hack w/ a FHA loan.

    Best of Luck, Great that you have family support, happy holidays!

    Much aloha,

    Danny

  • Pacific, WA · Member since 2016 · 31 posts · 6 votes
    9y
    Danny F. I like that idea a lot, but I'm not sure how that would work in my case, since i personally wouldn't be qualified enough for an FHA loan, and neither could my parents since they are currently using an FHA loan. What do you think about a cosign? Having a steady job, Could I personally apply for an FHA loan and have them cosign so that I may qualify? If this is the case would the mortgage be in my name them? And would their DTI ratio still increase as cosigners?
  • Pacific, WA · Member since 2016 · 31 posts · 6 votes
    9y

    @Danny F.  i'm not sure if i tagged you in my response above

  • Investor · Manchester, NH · Member since 2016 · 164 posts · 83 votes
    9y

    David, 

    I would talk to a mortgage professional in your area about your options. 

    Also,  you need to ask yourself some tough questions?

    1. Do you really want to get your parents in further debt by letting them co-sign a loan with you? 

    2. If you don't have the ability to qualify for  a mortgage, should you really be buying a house? 

    It doesn't sound like you have any "skin" in the game. What are you bringing to the table? Just because others are investing in real estate, that doesn't mean you should. REI is not for everyone.

    Steve

  • Real Estate Investor / Wholesaler · Rochester, NY · Member since 2015 · 23 posts · 2 votes
    9y
    David, this is a rest way to start it's awesome that you have the family support of your mother and father and this is the same fashion in which I started. I used my mother and father's credit to get into my first rental property as well as my second and third. Basically, this is like 100% financing which is fine when your starting out most people will not have the necessary capital or credit needed to obtain their first house. However, to answer your question I would also consult a local investor, mortgage professional that engages in both traditional lending and private lending.
  • Grand Rapids, MI · Member since 2016 · 5 posts · 2 votes
    9y

    this is the perfect time for you to get creative with your investing or don't do it, one thing you can do is become an AUTHORIZED user on your parents credit cards. please do your own research on what that details. since you are working you could send out post cards to everyone in you area and wait for the calls to come in, this might take a while but when you talk to the sellers you can mention that you are willing to do seller financing. ONCE AGAIN PLEASE DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH TO KNOW ALL THE DETAILS. Lastly you can just get a hard money loan which will cost you money up front to get the loan but you will be able to leverage their money to make you money. We all need help but the best way to get it is to just be honest with people and tell them you will work smart and hard for them and if you are sincere enough they will give you a chance.  REMEMBER PEOPLE WILL HELP YOU BUT NO ONE WILL CARRY YOU.

  • Investor · Sherman Oaks, CA · Member since 2008 · 6k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    9y

    why don't you buy on contract for deed in your name and refi in 36 mo? Leave your parents credit alone.

  • Broker · Phoenix, AZ · Member since 2015 · 151 posts · 55 votes
    9y

    @David Pascual, if you have steady W2, FHA or coventional with or without downpayment assistance might be your best bet(i.e. cheapest money with minimal entanglements, that would leave your parents credit out of the picture.) Even though they are your parents, this puts them at risk for an investment that you are benefiting from, and possible strain on your relationship if anything goes south. That's why I'm advocating the easier route would be traditional financing with them gifting or loaning you the down (talk with your lender about the details, as gifting doesn't hurt your DTI while loan will.) I've seen several that have had all the down and all closing costs rolled into the loan or had a portion of that covered by gift or IRA loan from relatives, giving them that first property to work with.

    If you really want to get creative there would be the possibility of them buying and leasing back to you, but that's a more complicated transaction. This has the benefit of them retaining the asset for their contribution and keeps the lines of responsibility a little cleaner. 

  • Johnson City, TN · Member since 2014 · 586 posts · 705 votes
    9y

    Honestly, at this time I would concentrate on building my credit. Parental help can often become a crutch and a poor substitute for learning to do it on your own. When I was younger my parents were generous in their financial support and I was very appreciative but it kept me from finding ways to do it on my own. Parental help will be multiplied exponentially when you have acquired the other skills to go with it.

  • Pacific, WA · Member since 2016 · 31 posts · 6 votes
    9y

    @Steve Racicot steve I understand where your concerns are coming from but I found your comment slightly insensitive. I did not decide this career path after watching HDTV on house flipping hoping to make millions in one year. Ive been reading books and educating myself as much as a can before I do anything as well as having the help of other investors look over deals, so I am not going into this alone. of course using my parents credit can be highly risky, but I did not demand their help on this decision, they merely offered me their help to help me achieve this goal. I only wanted to hear the opinions of others on how to use this opportunity or if its even a good idea. If not then I will find another way. There is no reason to question my abilities as a future investor if you do not know my story, but perhaps you misunderstood my question or I misunderstood your comment. Good day sir.

    David

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