What really goes on in wholesales?

What really goes on in wholesales?

Contractor · Cleveland, OH · Member since 2015 · 10 posts · 1 vote

I've heard of people making money from buying bank-owned properties and selling them before they're required to make their first payment. They say its as easy as that, but I remain skeptical. For those of you have done wholesales... what really happens?

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Rental Property Investor · Rockford, IL · Member since 2014 · 4k+ posts · 2k+ votes
9y

Wholesaling is typically done one of two ways:

1. The wholesaler gets a property under contract then markets their position in that contract to an end buyer (contract assignment). A lotta folks muck that up and sell the property rather than their position in the contract, with the end result that some states are cracking down on it in a major way.

2. "Back-to-back" closings, often mistakenly referred to as a "double closing" which is illegal in most jurisdictions due to major abuse by short-sale flippers. The wholesaler buys the property outright, then flips it to end buyer within the terms of any title restrictions imposed by the seller, the lender, the state, etc.

Dunno if that helps ...

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    Rental Property Investor · Fredericton, New Brunswick · Member since 2013 · 7k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    9y

    Perhaps things are different in the south, but all the bank-owned properties we've bought have come with a no-resale clause for a period of 90 days or longer as part of the APS.  If you were to turn around and sell one of these inside 30-days, you would be in breach of your contract.

  • Rental Property Investor · Rockford, IL · Member since 2014 · 4k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    9y

    Wholesaling is typically done one of two ways:

    1. The wholesaler gets a property under contract then markets their position in that contract to an end buyer (contract assignment). A lotta folks muck that up and sell the property rather than their position in the contract, with the end result that some states are cracking down on it in a major way.

    2. "Back-to-back" closings, often mistakenly referred to as a "double closing" which is illegal in most jurisdictions due to major abuse by short-sale flippers. The wholesaler buys the property outright, then flips it to end buyer within the terms of any title restrictions imposed by the seller, the lender, the state, etc.

    Dunno if that helps ...

  • Contractor · Cleveland, OH · Member since 2015 · 10 posts · 1 vote
    9y
    Roy, Thank you for your answer. So, as an investor, you can either sit on the property for 90 days and sell it having done nothing to it as far as remodeling or repairs, or you could remodel and/or repair it and sell it. Either way, you have it for 90 days (or whatever amount of time is agreed upon or required). So, am I correct in assuming that flippers go for the quality over quantity approach? Whereas, wholesales are for quantity? Or is it more complicated than that?
  • Contractor · Cleveland, OH · Member since 2015 · 10 posts · 1 vote
    9y
    David, Thank you for replying to my post. You had mentioned something about "marketing your position" in a contract. What exactly does that mean?
  • Rental Property Investor · Rockford, IL · Member since 2014 · 4k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    9y

    @Philip Breeden,

    Sorry to take so long in responding.

    Your position in any contract to purchase an asset is itself a marketable asset. You can assign your position as buyer to a third party who them closes with the seller and pays you an assignment fee.

    A lot of large business transactions are done that way. In RE, it's known as one from of wholesaling.

  • Contractor · Cleveland, OH · Member since 2015 · 10 posts · 1 vote
    9y

    @David Dachtera

    So you'd be acting as a middle man, and the assignment fee is like a finder's fee?

    Also, what's keeping the third party from making an offer on the property you're in a position to buy? Is there some contractual agreement  between you and the seller that you can transfer to a third party?

  • Rental Property Investor · Rockford, IL · Member since 2014 · 4k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    9y

    @Philip Breeden,

    Yes - that's essentially correct.

    Once the seller accepts your offer, it's under contract. He can't take another without legal consequences. The contract is assigned to the 3rd party buyer who completes the purchase from the seller and pays your assignment fee, or you close on it yourself, then close with the third-party buyer for a higher amount (back-to-back closings).

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