The story of my first foray into real estate

The story of my first foray into real estate

Fort Campbell, KY · Member since 2018 · 46 posts · 12 votes

Good Morning everyone!

I'm a huge fan of networking, BP, and comradery so I thought I might be able to help someone by posting my journey thus far. 

In my new member intro I went into my backstory and goals a little bit so I wont waste time on that.  Since about March I had been looking in the Clarksville/Nashville TN area for any sort of multi family home.  It just made the most sense to me, and the best way to achieve cashflow.  I ended up connecting with a BP member on the forums who was local and we ended up meeting for a couple hours.  Hes been an investor/real estate agent for 10 years, and now had his own brokerage and property management company.  Definitely goals to strive for.  But he gave me great tools and information, as well as taking a lot of time to let me pick his brain.  There are so many little things about this that are not complicated, but so numerous its mind boggling.  

Through him I offering on properties, but every one that I offered on had multiple offers and I always lost.  The numbers barely made sense at asking price.  So even when I wanted to get my feet wet and offered full price, I'd still loose out.   I kept looking and kept offering, but still nothing.  So I could take a break or hope that something happens, or I can attack the problem a little different.  I've attended the webinars for BP and they always look at properties in random places.  So I figured why not do that, but do it for places only an hour or 2 away.  I started my research and that first night I found 3 properties in Evansville IN.

2 were more attractive on price, but not in the best shape.  They needed some work to bring them back up to their former glory.  Only one problem; even though they needed 10-12k work the sellers weren't budging on price.  They were both 150k, and it didn't look like after the work that was a price that would really give me a return I was interested in.  Now the other property was 240k, however all major items were 6 years old.  Now I have no problem getting my hands dirty and I'm not afraid of having to fix a property.  But for me, numbers are everything.  The effort I'd have to put in the 2 properties just wasn't anything worth while compared to the 240k property.  Maybe for a second or third investment, but not the first.  I need some practice with something "easier" before I go full bore.

If you've read "The richest man in Babylon", it says that a good investment is one where your principal is safe. During my research stage I got lucky and the property price got reduced to 229k! I was pumped, I didn't even have to negotiate and bam the deal was already better. After running the numbers, looking up rents for the area, census data, and calling property managers to confirm my findings it looks like best case it could rent 800 per unit, and worst case 700. Best case cashflow is about 800 dollars and a 17% COC return. Worst case it cashflows 600 dollars and returns 13%. My benchmark for COC return is -- better then the stock market average. So looking at that, it looks to me like a pretty decent first investment. With the principal is safe and major items fairly new, along with cashflow I'm pretty please.

I close on it Wednesday the 18th as of now, and even though this was a long process I really feel like this is going to rocket me onto the path of financing independence and a better quality of life!

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Justin CoryBusiness Member
Residential Real Estate Broker · Clarksville, TN · Member since 2016 · 44 posts · 25 votes
8y

@Christopher Labonte - Did you get closed on that thing? Can’t remember when you said that was supposed to happen when I ran into you the other day.  Lucky for you, your guy in Clarksville had your back... even on that one in Evansville. Haha. Hope you’re doing well man! Thought I’d say hey since I saw this post. 

Oh... and this @Bryce Stclair guy is probably right about Clarksville. I heard he’s killing it in Gatlinburg with those cabins. He’s good people. (:

Take care and keep in touch!

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  • Rental Property Investor · Nashville, TN · Member since 2017 · 108 posts · 66 votes
    8y

    Congratulations, @Christopher Labonte Exciting stuff!


    Sounds like you have sound principles. I hope everything went well with closing today. I'd love to hear more about it sometime. Did you decide on a property manager in Evansville yet? Or are you managing yourself? I may have missed it, but how many units is the new property?

  • Fort Campbell, KY · Member since 2018 · 46 posts · 12 votes
    8y

    I certainly try to have the principals down.  I spend a lot of time reading and listening to develop them.  Lots of little things to keep in mind, as well as having a confidence factor. 

    I did decide on a property manager.  Although my realtor was mediocre, she did give a great insurance recommendation.  I had 2 property managers in mind.  1 was "Real Property Management", and they were squared away.  Very professional.  Only problem was they wanted 10% to manage and 1/2 first months rent to lease.  A little steeper then my research down near Clarksville TN had shown me what was the "going" rate.  Now I know that goes with the market.  My realtor did recommend a company "Property Pros" and they were 8% to manage and 70 bucks max to lease.  Much better from a cost perspective.  Im gonna give them a shot.  They have good reviews so we'll see. 

    And the property is a 4 unit-- 3 bed, 1 bath.  The layout is definantly strange but hey they say 795 is fair and seem pretty confident about filling the units at that price.  worst case the numbers still work at the 675 the one rented unit is paying.

  • Rental Property Investor · Clarksville, TN · Member since 2017 · 91 posts · 147 votes
    8y

    It's really hard to make the numbers work in Clarksville right now with out of state investors looking for deals. With the current trends in Nashville home prices increasing, demand in Clarksville has shot up and inventory is still low. With companies such as LG coming to town it has been a crazy past year. I have only 1 multi family in the Clarksville area I was able to get this year but Looked other places as well!

    Went to the smokie mountains and picked up 2 cabins as V/R and loving it! Hope you can find a deal locally if it makes since! Best of luck!

  • Justin CoryBusiness Member
    Residential Real Estate Broker · Clarksville, TN · Member since 2016 · 44 posts · 25 votes
    8y

    @Christopher Labonte - Did you get closed on that thing? Can’t remember when you said that was supposed to happen when I ran into you the other day.  Lucky for you, your guy in Clarksville had your back... even on that one in Evansville. Haha. Hope you’re doing well man! Thought I’d say hey since I saw this post. 

    Oh... and this @Bryce Stclair guy is probably right about Clarksville. I heard he’s killing it in Gatlinburg with those cabins. He’s good people. (:

    Take care and keep in touch!

  • Fort Campbell, KY · Member since 2018 · 46 posts · 12 votes
    8y

    @Justin Cory I tried tagging you in my initial post but it wouldn't let me.  Your the "shadowy figure" I was referring to in my original post.  Talking to you helped me so much, making me feel more comfortable and confident.  Thank you, so much for helping me.  I wouldn't be here without you, or BP.  

    @Bryce Stclair I'm interested in doing stuff like that, but I gotta start small and get this one off the ground.  Maybe do 1 or 2 more multi families before I can start branching out and doing that kind of stuff.  

  • Flipper/Rehabber · Clarksville, TN · Member since 2017 · 82 posts · 20 votes
    8y

    Good luck! Sounds so exciting! How did closing go?

  • Fort Campbell, KY · Member since 2018 · 46 posts · 12 votes
    8y

    @Erica Shaunta Thompson 

    Closing was a little rough. They didn’t make all the repairs agreed on in the  contract and the ones the did were...shoddy to say it nicely. Here it is over a month in and and work just got done and took my realtor theatening them with small claims court to get then to do it.  The sellers realtor was very lazy. 

    Positive note- property management in place and 1 new tenant placed bringing occupancy to 50%

    Unfortunately it still is 50% vacant. My question I would lose to the inter webs is should I be worried? The current rent covers the bare essentials. Mortgage, insurance and taxes or all covered as well as management. But there there is a small utility cost, and that doesn’t allot money to vacency or maintenance. What should I do? My manager tells me that around school starting the market lulls and picks back up after. But what should I be doing to ensure my manager is doing what they’re suppose to as well?

  • Fort Worth, TX · Member since 2018 · 14 posts · 4 votes
    8y

    @Christopher Labonte, I know I'm late, but congrats! I haven't read the rest of this thread, so you may have commented on it already, but I hope you closed successfully on the 18th. 

    Also - thank you for sharing your journey with us. Its inspiring. 

    :)

  • Fort Campbell, KY · Member since 2018 · 46 posts · 12 votes
    8y

    @Claire H.

    I’m so glad you think so! I really believe and have a pretty good grasp on the philosophy behind investing, especially in real estate. I have A LOT more to learn though. 

    You wouldn’t happen to have any suggestions based on my last post would you?

  • Fort Worth, TX · Member since 2018 · 14 posts · 4 votes
    8y

    @Christopher Labonte, I wish I had the experience to provide some valuable insight here. 

    How long has it been 50% vacant? Do you know if there is a lack of interest? Is there any feedback that your PM company can provide?

    What is fueling your curiosity about if you should be worried? Because you sure don't want to be borrowing trouble from tomorrow. And that's not a pass to mute your diligence, observations, or analysis.

    At some point, you have to trust. Perhaps though, reach out to other PM companies in the area and ask if they see big swings around certain parts of the year, and if so, when? How do they normally combat that? Treat it like you're interviewing them on their tactics - because maybe you are. Maybe you find that you'd like to change PMs based on these findings. You could even anonymously call your current PM and ask the same things. Granted, all of this takes time, but you're at the start, and that's when time investment is very important. 

    I'd also follow-up with your PM and ask, "does this mean that I should expect a drop in vacancy every year around this time?" Is this property near a university?

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