So what's holding you back?

So what's holding you back?

Rental Property Investor · East Providence, RI · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes

When I help new investors with buying their first property I often want to know what is holding them back from pulling the trigger.

So I'll ask here. What is holding you back?

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Providence, RI · Member since 2018 · 29 posts · 409 votes
7y

Having just recently bought my first property, I know for myself what was holding me back was the fear that I would overpay, especially in this type of a market. I would get analysis paralysis and basically talk myself out of every property I looked at.

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  • King Of Prussia, PA · Member since 2019 · 22 posts · 0 votes
    7y

    @Frank Patalano

    So I have None of my own money to invest in a property. Nor have I ever bought a house before.

    I have a fair credit score of 726. I want to put offers in on properties. How do I get started ?

  • Rental Property Investor · East Providence, RI · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Jarreau Wiles:

    The legalities. Originally I was looking to wholesale. I just found out that wholesaling is illegal in VA without a realtors license. I definitely believe in trust but verify. So now I am interested in wholetailing while it's still legal in VA. Trying to find legit sources for verifying real estate and tax laws seems daunting. Also, expensive. I have thought about charging finder's fees just to get a foot in the door. Having the right agreement templates and knowing the pitfalls to avoid are definitely barriers for me.

    Join your local REIA. Most will have at least one investor friendly attorney. I've have many people tell me that something can't be done but Lo and behold I have met a local attorney already doing it.

    How about finding money partners and doing a deal with them and splitting the profit?

    Partner up on a fix and flip?

  • Rental Property Investor · East Providence, RI · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @William Adera:

    @Frank Patalano

    Credit card debt which was a result of life events. I have been making more than minimal payment but the interest rates are hitting me really Hard. Any advice would be appreciated

     Some banks offer personal loans at lower rates. 

    Discover offers a consolidation loan. They offered it to my Mom at 13.99% Not the best but it helped from 20% credit cards.

    If your credit score is decent you could consider convenience checks with 0% interest for a year and a small transfer fee.

    Help others in Real Estate. Even if you make a finder's fee it will bring you closer to success.

  • Rental Property Investor · East Providence, RI · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Tha Lock:

    Waiting for my BK to clear up next month so I can qualify for a loan.

     Make sure that after the month is up you check with all of the credit bureaus.

    You can still do deals before that if you have a down payment available. Most hard money lenders don't check credit.

  • Rental Property Investor · East Providence, RI · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Jeff Byrne:

    What's holding me back is student loan debt. I've heard from multiple sources that house hacking is the way to go, however I am afraid of not having enough for a down payment, finding the right deal, as well as finding the financing for the deal. I want to make sure that the deal will provide enough cash flow to help pay down the loans quicker. 

     There are plenty of podcasts on Househacking. My partner Jimmy did a great one. He actually owed $70K when he started his first househack. The profit from the purchase allowed him to payoff his debts faster.

  • Rental Property Investor · East Providence, RI · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Bria Mayne:

    @Frank Patalano

    Finding a qualifying property. Im feeling like MLS is not working for me, and that props in my area are priced higher than equitible for multi-rental props. Maybe time to drive for dollars...?

    Absolutely time to drive for dollars. In most markets, MLS is a waste of time at this point.

  • Rental Property Investor · East Providence, RI · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Dave Tad:

    Money holds me back!

     Why?

    You need to be strong with time, experience, OR money. If you have one of those you can succeed. Find partners to fill in for what you are lacking.

  • Rental Property Investor · East Providence, RI · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Lee R.:

    @Frank Patalano

    For me its finding the right brokerage!

     Are you an agent? I'm not sure what finding the right brokerage means.

    You might have been the first person to use that in the thousands of comments on this post.

  • Rental Property Investor · East Providence, RI · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @James Mulcahy:
    Originally posted by @Frank Patalano:
    Originally posted by @James Mulcahy:

    The Comfort zone has been holding me back for at least five years (Maybe eight!). Ten years ago I bought my first multi (2 family) at a short sale and BRR’d it before I even knew what that meant. It’s been pretty successful for me with both cash flow and appreciation. I’ve looked at hundreds of deals in the last eight or so years and have not pulled the trigger on buying another one although many deals have passed me by. 

    That is until listening to Brandon/David on bigger pockets and also You and Jimmy talking about the BRRR strategy on the Cash flow Kings. As of now we will hopefully soon be closing on a five unit deal- Off market- Owner financed (really close to a 2% deal!).

    Having a solid Partner has been instrumental to me as well not only for analyzing deals but also for accountability. 

    The big question is what’s next?  Find me the next deal I’m ready. 

     NICE JOB! 

    Give yourself 1 month to stabilize the new property.

    Then go on the hunt for more.

    We are glad to be making an impact.

    What state do you live in?

    Frank, We are based in Attleboro MA. Looking forward to meeting you at your event on The 16th. I actually sent you a lead Via Instagram a couple weeks ago I that I see is now under agreement I hope you snatched it up! A lot of solid deals in South eastern MA right now believe it or not the MLS has had deals for the first time in a long time lately.

    It’s amazing how mindset changes things the deals are there but you need to put in work. 

     16th? The RIREIG meeting on the 17th of October?

  • Rental Property Investor · East Providence, RI · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Don Regal:

    @Frank Patalano I’m in tremendous debt and I’m currently working a $12 an hour moving job. Despite all my learning, podcast, and videos, the building of my money to pay off my debt is going to take a while. I’m trying though!

     Perhaps you can partner on a deal or at least get a referral fee.

    I linked up a hard money lender with a new client recently and got a decent $500+ check just for linking 2 people together. It wasn't expected or necessary but was appreciated.

  • Rental Property Investor · East Providence, RI · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Malik Eleby:

    @Frank Patalano

    So I have None of my own money to invest in a property. Nor have I ever bought a house before.

    I have a fair credit score of 726. I want to put offers in on properties. How do I get started ?

     House hacking is probably the best way for you right now. You can get a low down payment mortgage and start to build from there.

  • Houston, TX · Member since 2019 · 7 posts · 2 votes
    7y

    @Frank Patalano thank you. I will keep that in mind. I had talked to a loan officer last month and she said I would be able to get loan after next month. So, in the meantime I need to keep looking and analyze the property. I’m a little scared since this will be my first real estate purchase.  

  • Phoenix, AZ · Member since 2018 · 40 posts · 12 votes
    7y

    @Frank Patalano

    Being new to something is scary within its self.

    But sometimes you don’t know where to start or how much you need to start. You hear of so many different investment strategies, and as a newbie don’t no what investment strategy is right for you. Having the necessary funds to invest is a major problem for some of us. We hear education is key but we don’t know if we are reading or watching the right info and that will help us to be as successful as some are here. Maybe you need a mentor but don’t know what you can offer to bring to the table if your a newbie. I would love to start it’s just where do I start, those are the questions I ask my.

  • Rental Property Investor · East Providence, RI · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Tyrone Hood:

    @Frank Patalano

    Being new to something is scary within its self.

    But sometimes you don’t know where to start or how much you need to start. You hear of so many different investment strategies, and as a newbie don’t no what investment strategy is right for you. Having the necessary funds to invest is a major problem for some of us. We hear education is key but we don’t know if we are reading or watching the right info and that will help us to be as successful as some are here. Maybe you need a mentor but don’t know what you can offer to bring to the table if your a newbie. I would love to start it’s just where do I start, those are the questions I ask my.

     There are many different strategies in real estate investing. Different strategies cater to different strengths. There are so many different strategies and people come up with new twists all of the time.

    I believe that if you are strong in one of 3 things then you can be successful in real estate. That does not mean that you will be. 

    1. Money Or 2. Knowledge Or 3. Time

    If you have a strength in one of those then you can find partners to fill the other 2.

    If you have a lot of money you should be fix and flipping or hard money lending.

    Knowledge? helps with rehabbing, new construction, etc.

    A lot of time? helps with wholesaling, bird dogging, etc.

    If you don't own a house yet but have decent credit? Go with House hacking.

    As you can see there are many options.

    Keep reading until you find an investment strategy that you want to focus on.

    Start Networking as well.

  • Phoenix, AZ · Member since 2018 · 40 posts · 12 votes
    7y

    Okay, thank you Frank!

  • Rental Property Investor · Houston, TX · Member since 2019 · 87 posts · 69 votes
    7y

    @Frank Patalano I’m a 21 yo student at the University of Houston. I’ve been interested in real estate for the last 3 or 4 years in real estate and have been learning aimlessly through podcasts, books, seminars, and clubs, but I’m still not sure how to start. I want to start more than anything, but I’m not sure if my first steps and then what happens after. If anyone has been in my position or is able to offer some words of wisdom it would be greatly appreciated!

  • Rental Property Investor · East Providence, RI · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Hayden Wright:

    @Frank Patalano I’m a 21 yo student at the University of Houston. I’ve been interested in real estate for the last 3 or 4 years in real estate and have been learning aimlessly through podcasts, books, seminars, and clubs, but I’m still not sure how to start. I want to start more than anything, but I’m not sure if my first steps and then what happens after. If anyone has been in my position or is able to offer some words of wisdom it would be greatly appreciated!

     Well the Houston market is red hot.

    I consider one of your best options to be a house hack. Buy a multi and rent out the other units. You can also rent out bedrooms in your unit.

    You can have a low down payment. Long term low interest mortgage. People helping you pay. 

  • Rental Property Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2013 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    7y

    Houston has gone insane. I had a property bought 6 years ago for $880k just appraise for $6.8m. 

    People act like you have to pick cash flow or appreciation. Well Houston has tons of both 

  • Vantaa, Finland · Member since 2019 · 4 posts · 2 votes
    7y

    I think the biggest hold back is my family: they are highly against real estate investing, even though I'm trying my best to explain how it works. 

    Don't get me wrong, they are usually highly supportive when it comes to studying, jobs or investing into funds or stocks. I think it is Finnish culture that is affecting their behavior. Real Estate investing isn't highly preferred here and these investors are seen as greedy people...

    Another thing that is holding me back is actually the culture. There aren't really small multifamily buildings in Finland: we either have single family, duplex or apartment buildings (20+ doors). We don't even have an actual word for multifamily in Finnish.

  • Member since 2019 · 3 posts · 0 votes
    7y

    @Frank Patalano The 20% down and jumping into it! Getting my feet wet and pulling the trigger to get started!

  • Rental Property Investor · East Providence, RI · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Cody L.:

    Houston has gone insane. I had a property bought 6 years ago for $880k just appraise for $6.8m. 

    People act like you have to pick cash flow or appreciation. Well Houston has tons of both 

     What you call insane, I consider borderline ridiculous.

  • Rental Property Investor · East Providence, RI · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Joonas Romppanen:

    I think the biggest hold back is my family: they are highly against real estate investing, even though I'm trying my best to explain how it works. 

    Don't get me wrong, they are usually highly supportive when it comes to studying, jobs or investing into funds or stocks. I think it is Finnish culture that is affecting their behavior. Real Estate investing isn't highly preferred here and these investors are seen as greedy people...

    Another thing that is holding me back is actually the culture. There aren't really small multifamily buildings in Finland: we either have single family, duplex or apartment buildings (20+ doors). We don't even have an actual word for multifamily in Finnish.

     My family does not even know that I own rentals. They were negative about it early on.

    Perhaps you can become a rich man by building smaller multifamilies.

    There is nothing wrong with setting your sights on buying a bigger multi. In the United States we can pool resources with a number of investor and buy it together. You would have the control but they would be owners. We call it syndications. It is like setting up a company where you are running it.

    How expensive is a single family in your area? What is the monthly rent that you can charge for it?

  • Rental Property Investor · East Providence, RI · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Brittany Wallace:

    @Frank Patalano The 20% down and jumping into it! Getting my feet wet and pulling the trigger to get started!

     Do you own a house now?

    If not you can house hack with a much lower down payment.

    I don't know any real estate investor who has says, "I wish that I started later."

  • Vantaa, Finland · Member since 2019 · 4 posts · 2 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Frank Patalano:

    Perhaps you can become a rich man by building smaller multifamilies.

    There is nothing wrong with setting your sights on buying a bigger multi. In the United States we can pool resources with a number of investor and buy it together. You would have the control but they would be owners. We call it syndications. It is like setting up a company where you are running it.

    How expensive is a single family in your area? What is the monthly rent that you can charge for it?

    Around the area where I live, single family houses are usually 200k+ euros. Weirdest thing around here is that people don't usually rent single family. Those that are rented are asked for around 1500 euros/month. 

    I guess it's because of the old "dream" that everyone want's to own their single family house.

    Around here people tend to invest in apartments, but I don't like the idea that other apartment owners or their tenants can lower the buildings value, due to poor maintenance or bad decisions. Here every apartment building has their own administration that is supposed to make decisions regarding to building and its maintenance. And the administration must be formed from people living in that building. 

    We have had quite a few news articles about that apartment buildings are in bad shape because especially elder people do not want to make these rehabs (piping, windows, etc.). And these administrations are full of elders since younger people are too lazy or afraid of responsibility. 

  • Monterey, CA · Member since 2019 · 1 post · 0 votes
    7y

    @Frank Patalano

    Need mentor!

    Fear of failing..

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