Sell current property to pay off debt or keep as rental?

Sell current property to pay off debt or keep as rental?

Member since 2019 · 32 posts · 18 votes

Hey Everyone,

My husband and I are new to real estate investing.  We currenty live in Washington state close to the military base and own our current home.  We are being stationed in Mississippi and are having to make the decision if we should sell our current home or keep it as a rental.  We’d appreciate some input in the decision.  

To give you a little more background, we live in a very hot market with houses not staying on the market longer than a couple weeks, if even that long.  If we choose to sell our house we would make about 100-120K profit.  We do have some debt to pay off with our cars and a single credit card so could use the money to pay off about 50k in debt and still have a nice nest egg and money for future investment properties.  We both have good paying jobs so if we don’t use the money to pay down the debt, I imagine we would have the debt paid off in about 1-2 years anyways.

On the otherhand, we live in a great market for rentals as well since we are close to the base and a lot of people relocating to WA.  Our house could give us about $200-400 per month.  I have to a little more research in how much we would make each month but that is a rough estimate.  We want to eventually invest in mississippi but we don’t know the area well and a lot of the area is low income so we don’t want to jump into too quickly till we know the area better.  

We would appreciate any input, thoughts, or experience in these scenarios!  Thanks in advance!

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Rental Property Investor · East Wenatchee, WA · Member since 2014 · 10k+ posts · 16k+ votes
7y

I'd sell and take the tax-free gain.  No way I'm managing a PNW rental from Mississippi. Especially if you dont plan on moving back.

But I'd sell by owner in a hot market and have with my last 3.  Get to know NWMLS Form 21 and Form 17.  It's not difficult. 

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  • Central, MN · Member since 2015 · 148 posts · 184 votes
    7y

    It basically just comes down to numbers.  If keeping it makes you $300/month(I'm using middle figure), but it means you keep all of your other debt(calculate how much that costs you per month) it will give you a relative idea of how it affects your monthly bottom line.  If you sell the house and can pay off all your other debt, that will give you another monthly bottom line.  Lastly, if you sell, pay off debt and reinvest for cash flow, that will give you another monthly bottom line.  That is a simple way to look at it.  There are things that come into play like how much will it appreciate?  Do you ever see yourself wanting to move back?  If you really can pay off all the other debt in a short period of time, you could possibly sell and invest all the profits.  I think it comes down to WHAT you are looking for, what your goals are.  I think it is best to look at it with your goals in mind.  If your goals are just to do what makes you the most money, find the solution that makes the most profit or cash flows the best and go from there.  Good luck. 

  • Member since 2019 · 13 posts · 4 votes
    7y

    If the house is paid off or close to being paid off keep it and rent it. Get a property manager, use rentometer.com to see what the rents are in the area and the 4 square to see what percentage you will make return on investment. Then decide if another investment can pay you back just as well. If the ROI is there and with a hot market the appreciation is there then I would say keep it, rent it, allow it grow and use the equity to your advantage or sell it when you no longer want anything.

  • Joe VilleneuvePro Member
    Plymouth, MI · Member since 2013 · 13k+ posts · 19k+ votes
    7y

    I would take the first $50k and pay off the debt.  That actually equals the same net result as increasing your cash flow by the monthly payments you had on that debt...that you no longer have to pay.  This is a trifecta:

    1 - you eliminated the total debt

    2 - You eliminated the monthly payment associated with that debt...which is now kept as income, which you can now use towards...

    3 - one of the other debts (utility bills) you have remaining...that doesn't go away.

    Take the other $50k, and use it as the DP on another property worth $250k that will bring you added CF.

  • Joe VilleneuvePro Member
    Plymouth, MI · Member since 2013 · 13k+ posts · 19k+ votes
    7y

    If you have $100k in cash tied up in your current house..take it and run...and invest it to make more.  If you rent out the current house, and can cash flow $5k/year, and leave that $100k in the house to die, it will take you 20 years of cash flow (with no problems) to equal that $100k you have access to right now.  If you can't find an investment where you use the $50k (after using the other $50k for debt payoff), that gets your at least that same $5k/year, you're not trying...or are looking in the wrong place.

  • Everett, WA · Member since 2019 · 20 posts · 5 votes
    7y

    If you are in a position to maintain your current payments on your revolving and installment payments with a goal to pay off in1-2 years I would keep the property as a rental as long as the property will cash flow.   Working with several investors currently buying in Mississippi with positive feedback and have can refer you over to a good inventory provider in the market. This would allow you to gain a little more information on the area which would help with your decision making process.

  • Rental Property Investor · East Wenatchee, WA · Member since 2014 · 10k+ posts · 16k+ votes
    7y

    I'd sell and take the tax-free gain.  No way I'm managing a PNW rental from Mississippi. Especially if you dont plan on moving back.

    But I'd sell by owner in a hot market and have with my last 3.  Get to know NWMLS Form 21 and Form 17.  It's not difficult. 

  • Specialist · Memphis, TN · Member since 2012 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y

    One big factor is how emotionally attached you are to your home. If the thought of it being trashed makes you sick then don't rent it out.  FINANCIALLY it's a no brainer. KEEP IT and rent it.  Why sell a good asset ever when you can use the equity instead.  Cash is too liquid and you'll be amazed how easy it is to turn a large nest egg into an empty nest.

  • Rental Property Investor · North Vernon, IN · Member since 2018 · 136 posts · 192 votes
    7y

    @Jennifer White sell the house and pay off debt.

  • Theresa HarrisPro Member
    Member since 2019 · 15k+ posts · 11k+ votes
    7y

    How much are places in your new town?  Could you take the profit and use it to buy a rental in the new town that would be a dedicated rental?  I know you saw you don't know the area, but meeting with a local real estate group could get you up to speed on the area quickly.  

    For the profit on your house, does that include all the management fees, taxes, etc?

    If your credit card is high interest, pay that down right away.

  • Todd DoxzonBusiness Member
    Rental Property Investor · Omaha, NE · Member since 2018 · 11 posts · 3 votes
    7y

    @Jennifer White could you refi, take $50k out to pay off the debt, but keep the asset?

  • Member since 2019 · 32 posts · 18 votes
    7y

    @Stephen Bighaus Would you mind sharing any contacts you have in the Mississippi area? We are hoping to get involved in REI meetups and getting to know people in the area. We will be in MS for a few years so hoping to make this a primary area of investment for us if we can.

  • Member since 2019 · 32 posts · 18 votes
    7y

    @Todd Doxzon  That's actually a good point.  We didn't consider that.

  • Member since 2019 · 32 posts · 18 votes
    7y

    Thanks everyone for the insight.  Many of you are bringing up points that my husband and I didn't consider.  Both sides have good arguments for selling vs keeping the property.  We'll have to weigh the pros and cons a little more.  My husband still has quite a bit of time in the military so we will not be returning to Washington anytime soon.

  • Pat HeidingsfelderBusiness Member
    Real Estate Broker · Biloxi, MS · Member since 2016 · 169 posts · 92 votes
    7y

    @Jennifer White  Where are y'all moving to in MS?

  • Everett, WA · Member since 2019 · 20 posts · 5 votes
    7y

    Jennifer, Clifton Stone at Memphis Cashflow. They are a turnkey provider in Memphis but also sell and manage properties in Arkansas and Mississippi.

  • Member since 2019 · 32 posts · 18 votes
    7y

    @Pat Heidingsfelder  We just bought a house in the Gulfport area.  Have you done any investing in the area?

  • Member since 2019 · 32 posts · 18 votes
    7y

    @Stephen Bighaus  Thank you Stephen!

  • Pat HeidingsfelderBusiness Member
    Real Estate Broker · Biloxi, MS · Member since 2016 · 169 posts · 92 votes
    7y

    @Jennifer White  I certainly do!  I'm all over Gulfport/Biloxi.  Let's get together when y'all get here.

  • Waipahu, HI · Member since 2018 · 121 posts · 81 votes
    7y

    The ROI minded investor would look at what is going to bring the greatest return, and not really contemplate stress, or difficulty that comes with some investments, and debt. If you are thinking more about creating a more simplistic life in Mississippi. I would consider paying off the debt, and only considering investing where you live at. I do not know how well you handle stress, but it is thought that moving, and starting a new job as 2 of the top 3 most stressful things a person can do add in a long distance rental, and some debt that could be a large amount of stress. I would personally consider selling paying off the debt, and finding investments that would be easiest in my back yard. Hope this helps.

  • NJ · Member since 2016 · 50 posts · 19 votes
    7y

    @Jennifer White Check out the folks over at https://www.activedutypassiveincome.com/. I haven't been involved too much but have read through there info and they are great for military investors. I am assuming you are moving somewhere around Keesler and I am willing to bet someone might still be stationed there. Hopefully this helps!

  • Member since 2019 · 32 posts · 18 votes
    7y

    Thanks @Tyler Drapeau I will take a look into that.

    @Stephen Bighaus  Thanks for the information!  

    @Pat Heidingsfelder I will definitely be in touch once we get down there.  What types of investing do you do?

  • Investor · Jackson, MS · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 769 votes
    7y

    There are a lot of investors in Gulfport since it has both a naval base and a beach, but beware of climate change and remember Katrina. Be sure you get flood insurance, surge insurance, etc. 

  • Real Estate Agent · Virginia Beach, VA · Member since 2012 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y

    Remember that unless you have great management and great tenant placement, turnovers can eat up all profit very quickly, especially if it's a larger home that costs more for paint, flooring, etc.  Having to replace heat/ac system,  water heater, garage door, etc., will cost more if you're not there to obtain estimates, and management usually not willing to obtain estimates for you, just use their guys.  Finding good management in Washington State was difficult, also, as it's literally the wild west out there, buyer beware with their contracts tying you into their window-washing, pressure washing, carpet cleaning, blind cleaning services once a year.  It was just weird - I've never seen it anywhere else. Finding a management company out there that didn't have hidden extra fees built into their management contract was a time-consuming process, so read any management contract carefully.      

  • Everett, WA · Member since 2019 · 20 posts · 5 votes
    7y

    Apologize for the delay. I lend on 1-4 family properties with a primary focus on real estate investors.

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