First time buyer with 80k cash budget. Portfolio loan or no?

First time buyer with 80k cash budget. Portfolio loan or no?

Financial Advisor · Fort Wayne, IN · Member since 2019 · 4 posts · 2 votes

Talked with local lender recommended by my broker. Preliminary chat he shared the following numbers:

30% down required

5-6% 7 year fixed then adjustable

Not sure if I should try sticking with initial plan of a portfolio loan (to diversify risk in multiple properties)

Or

Do conventional mortgage for 20% down and lower interest rate

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Investor · Ithaca, NY · Member since 2015 · 49 posts · 34 votes
6y

@Ryan Austin I'm a huge fan of using local lenders and portfolio loans.  Personally, I've found their products to be better than the large banks in our area.  That said, our local lenders only require 20% down and have extremely competitive interest rates. Are there other local lenders you can chat with? You should absolutely shop around, I've found that the loan products that banks and credit unions will offer vary so much! At the end of your search you should choose whatever product is a better fit for your particular situation. Keeping more cash in your pocket (to further invest with) and lower mortgage payments as stated by @Jaysen Medhurst is usually the goal too!

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  • Property Manager · Lindenhurst, IL · Member since 2016 · 854 posts · 506 votes
    6y

    What is the benefit to you to use a portfolio loan? Why would using a portfolio loan diversify the risk?

  • Rental Property Investor · Greenwich, CT · Member since 2015 · 4k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    6y

    Go with the conventional with better terms, if you can, @Ryan Austin. No good reason to reduce your cash position and pay higher rates at this point.

  • Investor · Ithaca, NY · Member since 2015 · 49 posts · 34 votes
    6y

    @Ryan Austin I'm a huge fan of using local lenders and portfolio loans.  Personally, I've found their products to be better than the large banks in our area.  That said, our local lenders only require 20% down and have extremely competitive interest rates. Are there other local lenders you can chat with? You should absolutely shop around, I've found that the loan products that banks and credit unions will offer vary so much! At the end of your search you should choose whatever product is a better fit for your particular situation. Keeping more cash in your pocket (to further invest with) and lower mortgage payments as stated by @Jaysen Medhurst is usually the goal too!

  • Financial Advisor · Fort Wayne, IN · Member since 2019 · 4 posts · 2 votes
    6y

    @Soh Tanaka

    It would diversify my risk in purchasing multiple properties in a portfolio as opposed to a single property. Seems like a smart thing to do at this point in time given uncertainty of job market for so many people.

    Your thoughts?

  • Financial Advisor · Fort Wayne, IN · Member since 2019 · 4 posts · 2 votes
    6y

    Hi @Kelly Skeval thanks for the response! I have a list of 5-6 places to call now. A little extra leg work is hopefully going to add up to a lot of savings and added value to my plan!

  • Financial Advisor · Fort Wayne, IN · Member since 2019 · 4 posts · 2 votes
    6y

    @Jaysen Medhurst thank you for your input! It is definitely on my radar much more seriously than before. I have to keep digging and crunching numbers to see how it all adds up. I had been getting info on homes that were 20-35k and renting around $700/mo hence the desire for portfolio loan to be able to buy a bunch of them (if supply allows). But given the terms (and more leg work will yield additional options) I might have to look at what a higher dollar home might get me and go for higher quality over quantity.

    Your thoughts?

  • Property Manager · Lindenhurst, IL · Member since 2016 · 854 posts · 506 votes
    6y

    @Ryan Austin Just judging by the price, $25-$30k houses are probably unstable, thus risky, even when the cash flow is better on paper, and even if you won a few. If I were you, I would avoid those houses and buy one that is at least $60k, probably $80k+. Are the properties in IN? 

  • Rental Property Investor · Greenwich, CT · Member since 2015 · 4k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    6y

    @Ryan Austin, when you write "portfolio loan" are you referring to one loan that covers several properties (more accurately called a blanket loan) or a loan written by a lender who holds in it in their portfolio (as opposed to selling it on the secondary market)? 

    $20-35k homes that rent for $700? That sounds like a nightmare waiting to happen. What is the tenant class like? What kind of person do you think rents a house that could be bought for $20k. I'm sure the numbers are making you drool, but is it worth it? 

    At those prices what does MFR look like near you? Why bother at all with SFR?

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