Anyone have experience with Rent To Retirement?
Investor · Huntington Beach, CA · Member since 2022 · 96 posts · 32 votes
Anyone have experience with Rent To Retirement?
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Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votesQuote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @James Wise:
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Marcos De la Cruz:
Rent to Retirement supposedly has cash-flowing properties for sale.
Has anyone invested with this company?
Thanks.
I purchased a “turnkey” property through RTR in Akron, OH — a market they heavily praise and promoted. Sadly, my experience fell far below what was promised.
Out of respect for the BP community guidelines (and because I’ve seen how brutally honest feedback can be attacked here), I’m choosing not to post full details publicly.
If anyone is considering working with RTR or any of their affiliates and want a fully transparent, firsthand account, feel free to DM me.
Investors deserve the full picture — not just the highlight reel.
"I've seen how brutally honest feedback can be attacked here."
When you come on here with an anonymous profile. No location, no picture, no identifying information and just start attacking a legitimate company, I don't consider that an attack. That's simply experienced investors calling a spade a spade.
Respectfully, raising questions or concerns is not the same as attacking — and I never said RTR is a fraud. I simply encouraged others to read more carefully. Being anonymous doesn’t invalidate anyone’s perspective; it’s a common practice on forums like BP. Let’s focus on the actual topic rather than personal profiles.
That said, who are you to judge when your profile picture is a blue Hulk-looking dude? I’ve seen you actively and defensively engage in threads here. My post wasn’t directed at you personally — unless you’re identifying yourself as a shark here on BP?
lets put this in perspective.. Anytime one buys a rental property in any market and in any asset class Its real estate there is always some risk that performance wont match assumptions. I have had brand new A class construction homes get totally trashed by tenants.. I have had D class inner city that have perked along for years.. Full disclosure I know Zach personally and what I do know is he cares a lot about the success of his clients and thats really all you can ask of a Provider of Real estate investments.. Lots of moving parts with these deals.. And what I see is Investors many times have unreasonable expectations and are quick to blame when rentals dont go perfectly.. I mean you should see some of the pictures Jim posts when tenants move out.. its just the nature of the rental bizz. As @Nicholas L. mentioned cash flow is tough right now and i think PERSONAL opinion we are in the market cycle were we were in the early 2000s if your property will pay for its self that is a win.. positive cash flow is not to be expected its a bonus again in my personal opinion.. Wealth in RE is created by tenants paying off your property for you Not in amassing 1k or 2k a year in positive cash flow. any positive cash flow again in my personal opinion since U know going in is going to be small dollars should be used for reserves on top of what you think you need and or pay down debt.. you get weathly when your real estate is paid for. And time has moved on and your values far exceed what you paid for the asset. Again in my FWIW file.. See you all at Bp Con :)
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- 1yNicholas L.Pro MemberFlipper/Rehabber · Pittsburgh · Member since 2018 · 6k+ posts · 5k+ votes
hello. i don't have experience with them personally and can't speak to their inventory.
but in general, nothing 'cash flows' right now for the first few years - not in any market.
i would do your own underwriting and estimate conservatively.
hope this helps
- Member since 2019 · 11 posts · 3 votes1y
Quote from @Nicholas L.:
hello. i don't have experience with them personally and can't speak to their inventory.
but in general, nothing 'cash flows' right now for the first few years - not in any market.
i would do your own underwriting and estimate conservatively.
hope this helps
To do our own underwriting we need to go through the process of being an underwriter correct?
- Investor · Huntington Beach, CA · Member since 2022 · 96 posts · 32 votes1y
Yes, I always do my own underwriting. Thanks for the reply.
- Real Estate Broker · Cleveland Dayton Cincinnati Toledo Columbus & Akron, OH · Member since 2013 · 30k+ posts · 20k+ votes1y
Quote from @Marcos De la Cruz:
Rent to Retirement supposedly has cash-flowing properties for sale.
Has anyone invested with this company?
Thanks.
I started working with them last year. They market a lot of their properties on my Investment Properties Show. They're a legit operation. Very organized and straight to the point. I've had no complaints since I started working with them.
- Investor · Huntington Beach, CA · Member since 2022 · 96 posts · 32 votes1y
Thanks, I'll check them out.
- 1yNicholas L.Pro MemberFlipper/Rehabber · Pittsburgh · Member since 2018 · 6k+ posts · 5k+ votes
No, I just mean validating all of the numbers and assumptions that the provider is making, from taxes and insurance to capex and estimated rent increases. You should run your own numbers - everything that they're providing is just an estimate, not a guarantee or a promise.
- 1yZach LemasterBusiness MemberRental Property Investor · Denver, CO · Member since 2015 · 2k+ posts · 3k+ votes
@Marcos De la Cruz thank you for the interest in Rent To Retirement. I am the founder & CEO, and can speak directly to our track record, inventory and investor experience. I'm most certainly happy to answer any questions you have. RTR has been around BP for more than a decade now and we have thousands of forum posts from investors if you search Rent To Retirement in the forums. I've posted many links to some of those forums below for you to review to hopefully assist in answering your question. We also have >275 five star reviews on BP (more than any other company on this website).
We work across the nation to identify the markets that offer both attractive cash flow and appreciation. That also means we have insight into many different markets throughout the US vs just being focused on one or two markets. There definitely are markets that do cash flow well currently putting down the normal 20% to 25% down, even with interest rates still relatively high. It's all about finding the right location. You can pretty much make any market today cash flow if you put enough money down, but it depends on what your goals are.
One unique option we make available to our investors is to buy the interest rate down significantly on loans where you can get rates into the mid to low 4s on a 30yr fixed loan. RTR pays for the rate reduction, not you. That certainly helps to increase cash flow in multiple locations.
We have a strong focus on A class, new construction properties in growth markets. We have partnerships with the nation's largest builders (DR Horton, Lennar, Century, Toll Brother, LGI, etc.) where we work with their wholesale division to offer steeply discounted prices on new construction properties in some of the best locations in the US. Those wholesale discounts are passed on to you as the investor & are significant. The average discount is between $20K to $30K where you can use that however you want. You can take it as a price reduction on a home to have a new construction property acquired below market value (with immediate equity), you can take it as cash back to cover part or all of your down payment, or a combination of options like buying the rate down, cash back & price reduction. The choice is 100% yours! This is a unique way we are able to help our community be strategic investors to acquire assets at discounted prices they would not be able to on their own along with ensuring properties cash flow well in multiple markets. We also have all the teams in place you need to handle property management, insurance, lending, etc. This is a full service investing option where we guide you through the process to assist you in developing and investing strategy/plan and help you manage everything with the property long term. Our business model is very unique and you won't find these investing options anywhere else, largely in part because of our strategic relationships with national builders due to the volume we do annually.
I hope this helps to add clarity on exactly what we do at RTR and how we help investors get started & scale over time. Please feel free to reach out with any questions you have about anything investing (RTR related or otherwise). I've pretty much done it all in my time investing including wholesaling, flipping, house hacking, BRRR, turnkey, SFR/MR/Commercial/STR/MTR, notes, REITs, syndications, fractional ownership, building, mngt, raising capital, coaching/mentorship, etc. If we don't offer an option that is right for you, I can point you in the right direction. There are pros/cons to every strategy. It's important to find a strategy that best suites your goals/time/experience/capital/risk tolerance, etc.
Hope this helps!
Zach
Here are some links to forum posts about RTR that will help you answer your initial questions:
https://www.biggerpockets.com/business/page/3497
https://www.biggerpockets.com/users/ZacharyCole/references
https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/92/topics/765347-rent-to-retirement-review
https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/92/topics/1116050-a-huge-win-with-cori-from-rent-to-retirement
- New to Real Estate · NA · Member since 2024 · 32 posts · 24 votes1y
Quote from @Marcos De la Cruz:
Rent to Retirement supposedly has cash-flowing properties for sale.
Has anyone invested with this company?
Thanks.
I purchased a “turnkey” property through RTR in Akron, OH — a market they heavily praise and promoted. Sadly, my experience fell far below what was promised.
Out of respect for the BP community guidelines (and because I’ve seen how brutally honest feedback can be attacked here), I’m choosing not to post full details publicly.
If anyone is considering working with RTR or any of their affiliates and want a fully transparent, firsthand account, feel free to DM me.
Investors deserve the full picture — not just the highlight reel.
- Real Estate Broker · Cleveland Dayton Cincinnati Toledo Columbus & Akron, OH · Member since 2013 · 30k+ posts · 20k+ votes1y
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Marcos De la Cruz:
Rent to Retirement supposedly has cash-flowing properties for sale.
Has anyone invested with this company?
Thanks.
I purchased a “turnkey” property through RTR in Akron, OH — a market they heavily praise and promoted. Sadly, my experience fell far below what was promised.
Out of respect for the BP community guidelines (and because I’ve seen how brutally honest feedback can be attacked here), I’m choosing not to post full details publicly.
If anyone is considering working with RTR or any of their affiliates and want a fully transparent, firsthand account, feel free to DM me.
Investors deserve the full picture — not just the highlight reel.
"I've seen how brutally honest feedback can be attacked here."When you come on here with an anonymous profile. No location, no picture, no identifying information and just start attacking a legitimate company, I don't consider that an attack. That's simply experienced investors calling a spade a spade.
- New to Real Estate · NA · Member since 2024 · 32 posts · 24 votes1y
Quote from @James Wise:
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Marcos De la Cruz:
Rent to Retirement supposedly has cash-flowing properties for sale.
Has anyone invested with this company?
Thanks.
I purchased a “turnkey” property through RTR in Akron, OH — a market they heavily praise and promoted. Sadly, my experience fell far below what was promised.
Out of respect for the BP community guidelines (and because I’ve seen how brutally honest feedback can be attacked here), I’m choosing not to post full details publicly.
If anyone is considering working with RTR or any of their affiliates and want a fully transparent, firsthand account, feel free to DM me.
Investors deserve the full picture — not just the highlight reel.
"I've seen how brutally honest feedback can be attacked here."When you come on here with an anonymous profile. No location, no picture, no identifying information and just start attacking a legitimate company, I don't consider that an attack. That's simply experienced investors calling a spade a spade.
Respectfully, raising questions or concerns is not the same as attacking — and I never said RTR is a fraud. I simply encouraged others to read more carefully. Being anonymous doesn’t invalidate anyone’s perspective; it’s a common practice on forums like BP. Let’s focus on the actual topic rather than personal profiles.
That said, who are you to judge when your profile picture is a blue Hulk-looking dude? I’ve seen you actively and defensively engage in threads here. My post wasn’t directed at you personally — unless you’re identifying yourself as a shark here on BP?
- Real Estate Broker · Cleveland Dayton Cincinnati Toledo Columbus & Akron, OH · Member since 2013 · 30k+ posts · 20k+ votes1y
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @James Wise:
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Marcos De la Cruz:
Rent to Retirement supposedly has cash-flowing properties for sale.
Has anyone invested with this company?
Thanks.
I purchased a “turnkey” property through RTR in Akron, OH — a market they heavily praise and promoted. Sadly, my experience fell far below what was promised.
Out of respect for the BP community guidelines (and because I’ve seen how brutally honest feedback can be attacked here), I’m choosing not to post full details publicly.
If anyone is considering working with RTR or any of their affiliates and want a fully transparent, firsthand account, feel free to DM me.
Investors deserve the full picture — not just the highlight reel.
"I've seen how brutally honest feedback can be attacked here."When you come on here with an anonymous profile. No location, no picture, no identifying information and just start attacking a legitimate company, I don't consider that an attack. That's simply experienced investors calling a spade a spade.
Respectfully, raising questions or concerns is not the same as attacking — and I never said RTR is a fraud. I simply encouraged others to read more carefully. Being anonymous doesn’t invalidate anyone’s perspective; it’s a common practice on forums like BP. Let’s focus on the actual topic rather than personal profiles.
That said, who are you to judge when your profile picture is a blue Hulk-looking dude? I’ve seen you actively and defensively engage in threads here. My post wasn’t directed at you personally — unless you’re identifying yourself as a shark here on BP?
lol, "blue Hulk-looking dude" is by far the coolest dig anyone has ever thrown at me. It almost makes me want to give you a pass for the b/s you're trying to pull here on these threads, but even tho my ego just got a gnarly pump, I cannot because you're making a ridiculous argument.
Are you really making the argument that hiding your identity while anonymously attacking a company is totally acceptable? C'mon bro. Quit trolling.
- New to Real Estate · NA · Member since 2024 · 32 posts · 24 votes1y
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @James Wise:
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Marcos De la Cruz:
Rent to Retirement supposedly has cash-flowing properties for sale.
Has anyone invested with this company?
Thanks.
I purchased a “turnkey” property through RTR in Akron, OH — a market they heavily praise and promoted. Sadly, my experience fell far below what was promised.
Out of respect for the BP community guidelines (and because I’ve seen how brutally honest feedback can be attacked here), I’m choosing not to post full details publicly.
If anyone is considering working with RTR or any of their affiliates and want a fully transparent, firsthand account, feel free to DM me.
Investors deserve the full picture — not just the highlight reel.
"I've seen how brutally honest feedback can be attacked here."When you come on here with an anonymous profile. No location, no picture, no identifying information and just start attacking a legitimate company, I don't consider that an attack. That's simply experienced investors calling a spade a spade.
Respectfully, raising questions or concerns is not the same as attacking — and I never said RTR is a fraud. I simply encouraged others to read more carefully. Being anonymous doesn’t invalidate anyone’s perspective; it’s a common practice on forums like BP. Let’s focus on the actual topic rather than personal profiles.
That said, who are you to judge when your profile picture is a blue Hulk-looking dude? I’ve seen you actively and defensively engage in threads here. My post wasn’t directed at you personally — unless you’re identifying yourself as a shark here on BP?
As I’ve said — tread carefully, investors. As you can see, the blue shark (or should I say the Blue Hulk?) has come out, LOL. I’m sure more voices will chime in soon, including folks from RTR. With that, I won’t be engaging in further debate here. Bye!
- New to Real Estate · NA · Member since 2024 · 32 posts · 24 votes1yYou don’t deserve to know my identity, sorry not sorry!
Quote from @James Wise:
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @James Wise:
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Marcos De la Cruz:
Rent to Retirement supposedly has cash-flowing properties for sale.
Has anyone invested with this company?
Thanks.
I purchased a “turnkey” property through RTR in Akron, OH — a market they heavily praise and promoted. Sadly, my experience fell far below what was promised.
Out of respect for the BP community guidelines (and because I’ve seen how brutally honest feedback can be attacked here), I’m choosing not to post full details publicly.
If anyone is considering working with RTR or any of their affiliates and want a fully transparent, firsthand account, feel free to DM me.
Investors deserve the full picture — not just the highlight reel.
"I've seen how brutally honest feedback can be attacked here."When you come on here with an anonymous profile. No location, no picture, no identifying information and just start attacking a legitimate company, I don't consider that an attack. That's simply experienced investors calling a spade a spade.
Respectfully, raising questions or concerns is not the same as attacking — and I never said RTR is a fraud. I simply encouraged others to read more carefully. Being anonymous doesn’t invalidate anyone’s perspective; it’s a common practice on forums like BP. Let’s focus on the actual topic rather than personal profiles.
That said, who are you to judge when your profile picture is a blue Hulk-looking dude? I’ve seen you actively and defensively engage in threads here. My post wasn’t directed at you personally — unless you’re identifying yourself as a shark here on BP?
lol, "blue Hulk-looking dude" is by far the coolest dig anyone has ever thrown at me. It almost makes me want to give you a pass for the b/s you're trying to pull here on these threads, but even tho my ego just got a gnarly pump, I cannot because you're making a ridiculous argument.
Are you really making the argument that hiding your identity while anonymously attacking a company is totally acceptable? C'mon bro. Quit trolling.
- Real Estate Broker · Cleveland Dayton Cincinnati Toledo Columbus & Akron, OH · Member since 2013 · 30k+ posts · 20k+ votes1y
Quote from @Account Closed:
You don’t deserve to know my identity, sorry not sorry!Quote from @James Wise:
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @James Wise:
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Marcos De la Cruz:
Rent to Retirement supposedly has cash-flowing properties for sale.
Has anyone invested with this company?
Thanks.
I purchased a “turnkey” property through RTR in Akron, OH — a market they heavily praise and promoted. Sadly, my experience fell far below what was promised.
Out of respect for the BP community guidelines (and because I’ve seen how brutally honest feedback can be attacked here), I’m choosing not to post full details publicly.
If anyone is considering working with RTR or any of their affiliates and want a fully transparent, firsthand account, feel free to DM me.
Investors deserve the full picture — not just the highlight reel.
"I've seen how brutally honest feedback can be attacked here."When you come on here with an anonymous profile. No location, no picture, no identifying information and just start attacking a legitimate company, I don't consider that an attack. That's simply experienced investors calling a spade a spade.
Respectfully, raising questions or concerns is not the same as attacking — and I never said RTR is a fraud. I simply encouraged others to read more carefully. Being anonymous doesn’t invalidate anyone’s perspective; it’s a common practice on forums like BP. Let’s focus on the actual topic rather than personal profiles.
That said, who are you to judge when your profile picture is a blue Hulk-looking dude? I’ve seen you actively and defensively engage in threads here. My post wasn’t directed at you personally — unless you’re identifying yourself as a shark here on BP?
lol, "blue Hulk-looking dude" is by far the coolest dig anyone has ever thrown at me. It almost makes me want to give you a pass for the b/s you're trying to pull here on these threads, but even tho my ego just got a gnarly pump, I cannot because you're making a ridiculous argument.
Are you really making the argument that hiding your identity while anonymously attacking a company is totally acceptable? C'mon bro. Quit trolling.
That's fine, I am not really interested in knowing your identity. But at the same time, you should realize that when you go around attacking people while hiding said identity and motivations, it's clear to most everyone with a brain that what you're saying has little to no validity.
- Real Estate Broker · Cleveland Dayton Cincinnati Toledo Columbus & Akron, OH · Member since 2013 · 30k+ posts · 20k+ votes1y
Quote from @James Wise:
Quote from @Account Closed:
You don’t deserve to know my identity, sorry not sorry!Quote from @James Wise:
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @James Wise:
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Marcos De la Cruz:
Rent to Retirement supposedly has cash-flowing properties for sale.
Has anyone invested with this company?
Thanks.
I purchased a “turnkey” property through RTR in Akron, OH — a market they heavily praise and promoted. Sadly, my experience fell far below what was promised.
Out of respect for the BP community guidelines (and because I’ve seen how brutally honest feedback can be attacked here), I’m choosing not to post full details publicly.
If anyone is considering working with RTR or any of their affiliates and want a fully transparent, firsthand account, feel free to DM me.
Investors deserve the full picture — not just the highlight reel.
"I've seen how brutally honest feedback can be attacked here."When you come on here with an anonymous profile. No location, no picture, no identifying information and just start attacking a legitimate company, I don't consider that an attack. That's simply experienced investors calling a spade a spade.
Respectfully, raising questions or concerns is not the same as attacking — and I never said RTR is a fraud. I simply encouraged others to read more carefully. Being anonymous doesn’t invalidate anyone’s perspective; it’s a common practice on forums like BP. Let’s focus on the actual topic rather than personal profiles.
That said, who are you to judge when your profile picture is a blue Hulk-looking dude? I’ve seen you actively and defensively engage in threads here. My post wasn’t directed at you personally — unless you’re identifying yourself as a shark here on BP?
lol, "blue Hulk-looking dude" is by far the coolest dig anyone has ever thrown at me. It almost makes me want to give you a pass for the b/s you're trying to pull here on these threads, but even tho my ego just got a gnarly pump, I cannot because you're making a ridiculous argument.
Are you really making the argument that hiding your identity while anonymously attacking a company is totally acceptable? C'mon bro. Quit trolling.
That's fine, I am not really interested in knowing your identity. But at the same time, you should realize that when you go around attacking people while hiding said identity and motivations, it's clear to most everyone with a brain that what you're saying has little to no validity.
Also, as a side note.....I just asked my wife if she could start referring to me as the Blue Hulk.....She has respectfully declined. This. Upsets. Me.
- 1yJay HinrichsBusiness MemberReal Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @James Wise:
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Marcos De la Cruz:
Rent to Retirement supposedly has cash-flowing properties for sale.
Has anyone invested with this company?
Thanks.
I purchased a “turnkey” property through RTR in Akron, OH — a market they heavily praise and promoted. Sadly, my experience fell far below what was promised.
Out of respect for the BP community guidelines (and because I’ve seen how brutally honest feedback can be attacked here), I’m choosing not to post full details publicly.
If anyone is considering working with RTR or any of their affiliates and want a fully transparent, firsthand account, feel free to DM me.
Investors deserve the full picture — not just the highlight reel.
"I've seen how brutally honest feedback can be attacked here."When you come on here with an anonymous profile. No location, no picture, no identifying information and just start attacking a legitimate company, I don't consider that an attack. That's simply experienced investors calling a spade a spade.
Respectfully, raising questions or concerns is not the same as attacking — and I never said RTR is a fraud. I simply encouraged others to read more carefully. Being anonymous doesn’t invalidate anyone’s perspective; it’s a common practice on forums like BP. Let’s focus on the actual topic rather than personal profiles.
That said, who are you to judge when your profile picture is a blue Hulk-looking dude? I’ve seen you actively and defensively engage in threads here. My post wasn’t directed at you personally — unless you’re identifying yourself as a shark here on BP?
lets put this in perspective.. Anytime one buys a rental property in any market and in any asset class Its real estate there is always some risk that performance wont match assumptions. I have had brand new A class construction homes get totally trashed by tenants.. I have had D class inner city that have perked along for years.. Full disclosure I know Zach personally and what I do know is he cares a lot about the success of his clients and thats really all you can ask of a Provider of Real estate investments.. Lots of moving parts with these deals.. And what I see is Investors many times have unreasonable expectations and are quick to blame when rentals dont go perfectly.. I mean you should see some of the pictures Jim posts when tenants move out.. its just the nature of the rental bizz. As @Nicholas L. mentioned cash flow is tough right now and i think PERSONAL opinion we are in the market cycle were we were in the early 2000s if your property will pay for its self that is a win.. positive cash flow is not to be expected its a bonus again in my personal opinion.. Wealth in RE is created by tenants paying off your property for you Not in amassing 1k or 2k a year in positive cash flow. any positive cash flow again in my personal opinion since U know going in is going to be small dollars should be used for reserves on top of what you think you need and or pay down debt.. you get weathly when your real estate is paid for. And time has moved on and your values far exceed what you paid for the asset. Again in my FWIW file.. See you all at Bp Con :)
- Real Estate Agent · Washington, D.C. · Member since 2012 · 17k+ posts · 30k+ votes1y
Quote from @James Wise:
Quote from @James Wise:
Quote from @Account Closed:
You don’t deserve to know my identity, sorry not sorry!Quote from @James Wise:
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @James Wise:
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Marcos De la Cruz:
Rent to Retirement supposedly has cash-flowing properties for sale.
Has anyone invested with this company?
Thanks.
I purchased a “turnkey” property through RTR in Akron, OH — a market they heavily praise and promoted. Sadly, my experience fell far below what was promised.
Out of respect for the BP community guidelines (and because I’ve seen how brutally honest feedback can be attacked here), I’m choosing not to post full details publicly.
If anyone is considering working with RTR or any of their affiliates and want a fully transparent, firsthand account, feel free to DM me.
Investors deserve the full picture — not just the highlight reel.
"I've seen how brutally honest feedback can be attacked here."When you come on here with an anonymous profile. No location, no picture, no identifying information and just start attacking a legitimate company, I don't consider that an attack. That's simply experienced investors calling a spade a spade.
Respectfully, raising questions or concerns is not the same as attacking — and I never said RTR is a fraud. I simply encouraged others to read more carefully. Being anonymous doesn’t invalidate anyone’s perspective; it’s a common practice on forums like BP. Let’s focus on the actual topic rather than personal profiles.
That said, who are you to judge when your profile picture is a blue Hulk-looking dude? I’ve seen you actively and defensively engage in threads here. My post wasn’t directed at you personally — unless you’re identifying yourself as a shark here on BP?
lol, "blue Hulk-looking dude" is by far the coolest dig anyone has ever thrown at me. It almost makes me want to give you a pass for the b/s you're trying to pull here on these threads, but even tho my ego just got a gnarly pump, I cannot because you're making a ridiculous argument.
Are you really making the argument that hiding your identity while anonymously attacking a company is totally acceptable? C'mon bro. Quit trolling.
That's fine, I am not really interested in knowing your identity. But at the same time, you should realize that when you go around attacking people while hiding said identity and motivations, it's clear to most everyone with a brain that what you're saying has little to no validity.
Also, as a side note.....I just asked my wife if she could start referring to me as the Blue Hulk.....She has respectfully declined. This. Upsets. Me.
District Invest Group545 Reviews - Real Estate Broker · Cleveland Dayton Cincinnati Toledo Columbus & Akron, OH · Member since 2013 · 30k+ posts · 20k+ votes1y
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You don’t deserve to know my identity, sorry not sorry!Quote from @James Wise:
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @James Wise:
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Marcos De la Cruz:
Rent to Retirement supposedly has cash-flowing properties for sale.
Has anyone invested with this company?
Thanks.
I purchased a “turnkey” property through RTR in Akron, OH — a market they heavily praise and promoted. Sadly, my experience fell far below what was promised.
Out of respect for the BP community guidelines (and because I’ve seen how brutally honest feedback can be attacked here), I’m choosing not to post full details publicly.
If anyone is considering working with RTR or any of their affiliates and want a fully transparent, firsthand account, feel free to DM me.
Investors deserve the full picture — not just the highlight reel.
"I've seen how brutally honest feedback can be attacked here."When you come on here with an anonymous profile. No location, no picture, no identifying information and just start attacking a legitimate company, I don't consider that an attack. That's simply experienced investors calling a spade a spade.
Respectfully, raising questions or concerns is not the same as attacking — and I never said RTR is a fraud. I simply encouraged others to read more carefully. Being anonymous doesn’t invalidate anyone’s perspective; it’s a common practice on forums like BP. Let’s focus on the actual topic rather than personal profiles.
That said, who are you to judge when your profile picture is a blue Hulk-looking dude? I’ve seen you actively and defensively engage in threads here. My post wasn’t directed at you personally — unless you’re identifying yourself as a shark here on BP?
lol, "blue Hulk-looking dude" is by far the coolest dig anyone has ever thrown at me. It almost makes me want to give you a pass for the b/s you're trying to pull here on these threads, but even tho my ego just got a gnarly pump, I cannot because you're making a ridiculous argument.
Are you really making the argument that hiding your identity while anonymously attacking a company is totally acceptable? C'mon bro. Quit trolling.
That's fine, I am not really interested in knowing your identity. But at the same time, you should realize that when you go around attacking people while hiding said identity and motivations, it's clear to most everyone with a brain that what you're saying has little to no validity.
Also, as a side note.....I just asked my wife if she could start referring to me as the Blue Hulk.....She has respectfully declined. This. Upsets. Me.
lol bruhhhhh
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@Account Closed Tried to DM you as I was also planning to work with R2R for Ohio
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@Account Closed Tried to DM you as I was also planning to work with R2R for Ohio
- 1yRene HosmanPro MemberRental Property Investor · Denver, CO · Member since 2024 · 583 posts · 653 votes
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Rent to Retirement supposedly has cash-flowing properties for sale.
Has anyone invested with this company?
Thanks.
I purchased a “turnkey” property through RTR in Akron, OH — a market they heavily praise and promoted. Sadly, my experience fell far below what was promised.
Out of respect for the BP community guidelines (and because I’ve seen how brutally honest feedback can be attacked here), I’m choosing not to post full details publicly.
If anyone is considering working with RTR or any of their affiliates and want a fully transparent, firsthand account, feel free to DM me.
Investors deserve the full picture — not just the highlight reel.
"I've seen how brutally honest feedback can be attacked here."When you come on here with an anonymous profile. No location, no picture, no identifying information and just start attacking a legitimate company, I don't consider that an attack. That's simply experienced investors calling a spade a spade.
Respectfully, raising questions or concerns is not the same as attacking — and I never said RTR is a fraud. I simply encouraged others to read more carefully. Being anonymous doesn’t invalidate anyone’s perspective; it’s a common practice on forums like BP. Let’s focus on the actual topic rather than personal profiles.
That said, who are you to judge when your profile picture is a blue Hulk-looking dude? I’ve seen you actively and defensively engage in threads here. My post wasn’t directed at you personally — unless you’re identifying yourself as a shark here on BP?
lol, "blue Hulk-looking dude" is by far the coolest dig anyone has ever thrown at me. It almost makes me want to give you a pass for the b/s you're trying to pull here on these threads, but even tho my ego just got a gnarly pump, I cannot because you're making a ridiculous argument.
Are you really making the argument that hiding your identity while anonymously attacking a company is totally acceptable? C'mon bro. Quit trolling.
Hi Ka V. Unfortunately you are breaking the rules by not using your real name per the BiggerPockets rules Section II subsection A "Profile names" which you can read here https://www.biggerpockets.com/rules a member of the BP team will be reaching out to you to assist you in correcting this issue but you will not be allowed to continue posting without obeying by the community rules and standards.
Real names foster genuine connection, encourage accountability, and aim to reduce the kind of anonymous behavior that can lead to unproductive or harmful conversations. We’ve found that when people show up as their real selves, the conversations are more respectful, helpful, and relationship-driven, which is what BiggerPockets is all about.
- New to Real Estate · NA · Member since 2024 · 32 posts · 24 votes1yIt’s sad to see all this behavior here and especially how you claim to know whether I’m using my real name or not. Who are you anyway? (No need to literally respond back to me)
Quote from @Rene Hosman:
Quote from @Account Closed:
You don’t deserve to know my identity, sorry not sorry!Quote from @James Wise:
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @James Wise:
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Marcos De la Cruz:
Rent to Retirement supposedly has cash-flowing properties for sale.
Has anyone invested with this company?
Thanks.
I purchased a “turnkey” property through RTR in Akron, OH — a market they heavily praise and promoted. Sadly, my experience fell far below what was promised.
Out of respect for the BP community guidelines (and because I’ve seen how brutally honest feedback can be attacked here), I’m choosing not to post full details publicly.
If anyone is considering working with RTR or any of their affiliates and want a fully transparent, firsthand account, feel free to DM me.
Investors deserve the full picture — not just the highlight reel.
"I've seen how brutally honest feedback can be attacked here."When you come on here with an anonymous profile. No location, no picture, no identifying information and just start attacking a legitimate company, I don't consider that an attack. That's simply experienced investors calling a spade a spade.
Respectfully, raising questions or concerns is not the same as attacking — and I never said RTR is a fraud. I simply encouraged others to read more carefully. Being anonymous doesn’t invalidate anyone’s perspective; it’s a common practice on forums like BP. Let’s focus on the actual topic rather than personal profiles.
That said, who are you to judge when your profile picture is a blue Hulk-looking dude? I’ve seen you actively and defensively engage in threads here. My post wasn’t directed at you personally — unless you’re identifying yourself as a shark here on BP?
lol, "blue Hulk-looking dude" is by far the coolest dig anyone has ever thrown at me. It almost makes me want to give you a pass for the b/s you're trying to pull here on these threads, but even tho my ego just got a gnarly pump, I cannot because you're making a ridiculous argument.
Are you really making the argument that hiding your identity while anonymously attacking a company is totally acceptable? C'mon bro. Quit trolling.
Hi Ka V. Unfortunately you are breaking the rules by not using your real name per the BiggerPockets rules Section II subsection A "Profile names" which you can read here https://www.biggerpockets.com/rules a member of the BP team will be reaching out to you to assist you in correcting this issue but you will not be allowed to continue posting without obeying by the community rules and standards.
Real names foster genuine connection, encourage accountability, and aim to reduce the kind of anonymous behavior that can lead to unproductive or harmful conversations. We’ve found that when people show up as their real selves, the conversations are more respectful, helpful, and relationship-driven, which is what BiggerPockets is all about.
Let me tell you, I don’t need to fake it to make it and my name is more real than you can prove otherwise. Lastly, I don’t wish to continue using this platform form or its affiliates. It’s been a nonsense nightmare. I’m out ✌🏻 Thanks!
- Real Estate Broker · Cleveland Dayton Cincinnati Toledo Columbus & Akron, OH · Member since 2013 · 30k+ posts · 20k+ votes1y
@Russell Brazil see above. I hereby request that you stop calling me a Smurf and start referring to me as a Blue Hulk-looking dude from here on out.
- Real Estate Broker · Minneapolis, MN · Member since 2011 · 5k+ posts · 6k+ votes1y
@Marcos De la Cruz when considering/discussing Rent 2 Retirement I don't believe it's fair or accurate to do it in terms of "cash-flow".
In my opinion and understanding, Rent 2 Retirement is a Curated Experience for investing in/with Real Estate.
So given the focus, there is a performance function and aspect of things. But the value proposition is not that they have some magic wand to shazam numbers not found elsewhere, but of it being a Curated REI Experience. As in, your getting things on a silver platter to, ideally, lesson or remove a whole lot of guess work, chance and variables.
That Curated Experience comes with a price tag. That should be common sense, it will be cheaper to do everything on one's own, assuming one can.
And that raises the TRUE valuation point I think people should use; is the price worth the stress, time, energy, effort and risk exposure.
Every complaint I can recall on R2R has been those who ASSUMED a fantasy world of do nothing AND get fantasy super discounts on price, perfect tenants, perfect PM's, perfect rent's....... In short angry they didn't catch a Leprechaun.
That's my opinion.
- 1yJay HinrichsBusiness MemberReal Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
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Beware of Rent to Retirement and their tactics.
They do not follow through with their commitments, totally mistreat their clients, provide misinformation, and take no responsibility for their actions, or the actuons of their employees.We lost deals because of their team members not happy with client actions, they failed to divulge pertinent and legally required information, causing delays, very unprofessional.
After which, promises to resolve and terminate the team member that was disrespectful as well as refusing to divulge financial expectations, that could possibly cause further financial losses, and they elected to keep the employee, amd ditch the client. Prior to ditching the client, made promises to remedy by terminating and transferring a deal, that was never transferred, juat to get the client to remove a BBB complaint. They attempted to force and NDA to prevent the client from being able to share experiences, when refused, they tried on multiple times to express that they were losing money because the BBB complaint, never recognizing or accepting that the problem was the cause of their employee, and rather than fulfill their promises, they spent their efforts shifting blame to the client for taking actions, instead of taking action internally with the employee for putting them on the position of losing money, totally ignoring the losses the client was experiencing due to their false promises and failed promises, and intentional inflection of harm. The employee confirmed the order for a purchase was sat on, and in doing so, allowed a deal to move to another buyer, sat on the deal request for 2+ hours, and the deal was snatched up 1.5 hours after, because it was not locked in as requested in writing. I would suggest not working with them, as your likely to deal with the same or similar issues, especially since they allowed the employee to remain and seemingly without any reprimand, and certainly no restitution to the client for the losses caused by Rent To Retirement, and their horrible business practices, and lack of commitment to their clients.
Hope this helps you determine whether to work with them.
Also, o would say, do a search for their name, amd you will find over 100 complaints, I found more, amd in many locations, as well, they have BBB Complaints, and Business license complaints.
Good luck with whatever you do.
Hard to follow what happened here.. I take it you are not the client.. And it sounds like your friend might have missed out on a deal that went to someone else.. I dont see how they could be monetarily damaged.. companies dont fire employees just because a potential buyer is upset they missed out on a deal.. thats weird your friend or you would think there should be that kind of punitive action taken.. Just buy something else.. this seems like a pretty lame complaint to me personally.
Also not my experience working with Zach and his team I met Zach on a few projects were a mutual client ( I was the lender) the other guy was the operator providing the home. And Zach found me and went to great lengths to make sure his clients were protected from this guy .. I got paid as the lender it had to do with quality of the work and subsequently Zach did fire that company and he did standby his clients.. I saw that personally. - Investor · Huntington Beach, CA · Member since 2022 · 96 posts · 32 votes1y
Quote from @NA Solla:
Beware of Rent to Retirement and their tactics.
They do not follow through with their commitments, totally mistreat their clients, provide misinformation, and take no responsibility for their actions, or the actuons of their employees.We lost deals because of their team members not happy with client actions, they failed to divulge pertinent and legally required information, causing delays, very unprofessional.
After which, promises to resolve and terminate the team member that was disrespectful as well as refusing to divulge financial expectations, that could possibly cause further financial losses, and they elected to keep the employee, amd ditch the client. Prior to ditching the client, made promises to remedy by terminating and transferring a deal, that was never transferred, juat to get the client to remove a BBB complaint. They attempted to force and NDA to prevent the client from being able to share experiences, when refused, they tried on multiple times to express that they were losing money because the BBB complaint, never recognizing or accepting that the problem was the cause of their employee, and rather than fulfill their promises, they spent their efforts shifting blame to the client for taking actions, instead of taking action internally with the employee for putting them on the position of losing money, totally ignoring the losses the client was experiencing due to their false promises and failed promises, and intentional inflection of harm. The employee confirmed the order for a purchase was sat on, and in doing so, allowed a deal to move to another buyer, sat on the deal request for 2+ hours, and the deal was snatched up 1.5 hours after, because it was not locked in as requested in writing. I would suggest not working with them, as your likely to deal with the same or similar issues, especially since they allowed the employee to remain and seemingly without any reprimand, and certainly no restitution to the client for the losses caused by Rent To Retirement, and their horrible business practices, and lack of commitment to their clients.
Hope this helps you determine whether to work with them.
Also, o would say, do a search for their name, amd you will find over 100 complaints, I found more, amd in many locations, as well, they have BBB Complaints, and Business license complaints.
Good luck with whatever you do.
Thanks for the heads up.
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