Buyers wants to move in early, is this ok?

Buyers wants to move in early, is this ok?

Flipper · Round Rock, TX · Member since 2016 · 4 posts · 0 votes

I've refurbished a house and have a buyer under contract.  The buyer is selling their house and the closing on their house is three weeks ahead of our closing.  The buyer (young couple with two small boys and a big dog) is asking if they can go ahead an move in since they have nowhere else to go.  It's fine with me as long as they don't change their mind after they move in.  Also I feel strange about charging them rent since I'm making a very good profit off this deal since I'm getting full asking price.  However, if for some reason they do fail to close then i'm out the expense of re-staging and re-marketing the house, which I figure is around $2500.  

I'm wondering if it's just plain stupid to let the buyer move in early, or if not, then what is the easiest strategy to ensure that I get $2500 if the worst happens (i.e. call it deposit, call it earnest money, ....).  

Thanks for the feedback, 

Greg

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Kalamazoo, MI · Member since 2016 · 38 posts · 31 votes
9y
Your just asking for trouble if you allow it. If your house is rehabbed and good to go why not just move you closing up?
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  • Rental Property Investor · Yardley, PA · Member since 2008 · 1k+ posts · 561 votes
    9y

    I feel that it could present significant problems. If something goes wrong with your closing you may not be able to get them out. Just don't do it. There are other places that they could live for 3 weeks.

  • Kalamazoo, MI · Member since 2016 · 38 posts · 31 votes
    9y
    Your just asking for trouble if you allow it. If your house is rehabbed and good to go why not just move you closing up?
  • Mike CumbieBusiness Member
    REALTOR® · Brockport, NY · Member since 2015 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    9y

    Hi Greg, 

    Generally I don't recommend my clients do that. However if it has to be done a huge down payment before move in has to take place. Security deposit and rent. If they say nevermind at least you have something coming in. Their mortgage person says "oops my bad".... Hubby gets laid off 5 days before close.... Dog gets a tumor and there is no cost fluffy isn't worth.... even rent.... They just "grew apart".... They never noticed the train tracks or smell from basement... Neighbor is a real jerk, no way they can live next to him..... cars drive way too fast down this road for our kids.... Oh and now we have nowhere to go while we look for a new place.   It isn't just remarketing and staging, it is a 3 month eviction process and damages at stake. 

    Good luck in whatever you decide

  • Ronan M.Pro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Chicago, IL · Member since 2015 · 352 posts · 281 votes
    9y

    "I'm wondering if it's just plain stupid to let the buyer move in early"

    Yes !

  • Real Estate Investor · Dallas, TX · Member since 2009 · 183 posts · 153 votes
    9y

    Don't do it Greg.  It's harder to evict a tenant in Texas than to Foreclose.  It's just not worth the risk IMO.   I have always politely refused when buyer's or agents have made this request.  

  • Mike ReynoldsPro Member
    construction · Nacogdoches, TX · Member since 2011 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    9y
    Originally posted by @Greg Banister:

    I've refurbished a house and have a buyer under contract.  The buyer is selling their house and the closing on their house is three weeks ahead of our closing.  The buyer (young couple with two small boys and a big dog) is asking if they can go ahead an move in since they have nowhere else to go.  It's fine with me as long as they don't change their mind after they move in.  Also I feel strange about charging them rent since I'm making a very good profit off this deal since I'm getting full asking price.  However, if for some reason they do fail to close then i'm out the expense of re-staging and re-marketing the house, which I figure is around $2500.  

    I'm wondering if it's just plain stupid to let the buyer move in early, or if not, then what is the easiest strategy to ensure that I get $2500 if the worst happens (i.e. call it deposit, call it earnest money, ....).  

    Thanks for the feedback, 

    Greg

    You mentioned a refurbish. Do you have the COO yet? If you don't they can't move in anyway.

  • Flipper · Round Rock, TX · Member since 2016 · 4 posts · 0 votes
    9y

    @Phil Reames, we can't move it up because, VA loan.

    @Mike Cumbie, all very good reasons that probably outweigh the only argument that I can think of for letting them move in early, which is "good will".  It seems cold-hearted to make them move twice, but then the worst thing that could happen is they they scuttle the deal out of spite, which wouldn't really cost me anything.    

  • Nicole A.Pro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Baltimore County Maryland and Tampa Florida · Member since 2013 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    9y

    @Greg Banister *YOU* aren't making them move twice. This is *THEIR* challenge to deal with and should have had a plan of a place to stay in the interim. Please do not follow your feelings or your heart on this. 

    If you wanna say something to them to take away the "bad guy" look that you're apparently worried about, tell them, "Unfortunately, I am unable to allow anyone to take possession/tenancy of the property due to liability and insurance restrictions until closing. Thanks for understanding and I'm looking forward to closing day to hand the keys to your new home over!"

    I can almost guarantee that your answer of "no" to them will not be a big issue. They will not suddenly be insulted and think you're cold-hearted. And if they do, well, tough! Then you'll really know they would have been super risky to allow into your home before they own it.

  • Investor · Sacramento, CA · Member since 2017 · 2 posts · 0 votes
    9y
    I'm in agreement with everyone. Don't do it. Just say you spoke with your lawyer and there are too many liability issues involved. Are they not able to rent their current resident from the purchaser for a few weeks instead?
  • Flipper · Round Rock, TX · Member since 2016 · 4 posts · 0 votes
    9y

    @Julio Perez, I assume not but I didn't think to ask them if they have the option to rent from their purchaser instead.

  • Real Estate Agent/Investor · Peoria, AZ · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    9y

    @Greg Banister

    The worst-case scenario of having them damage something or not move out if the deal falls through is a lot worse than the $2500 of earnest money you'd get upfront.

  • Nicole A.Pro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Baltimore County Maryland and Tampa Florida · Member since 2013 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    9y

     Don't ask them about if they can rent their current resident! You're getting too involved. They are adults, let them figure it out.

  • Attorney at Law · Delanson, NY · Member since 2015 · 1 post · 0 votes
    9y

    I've drafted pre-possession and post-possession agreements for clients. There are risks but if you have all the right language: not a tenancy, big deposit, as is possession at closing even if defects found and they pay for insurance, you should be ok.  Do the walk thru for closing at possession and make them sign off on it.  If there are issues, you get deposit and if they cause damage there is insurance; make sure you are a named-insured.  If it is a cash deal, have the purchase price put in escrow.  Or just ask that the closings be aligned to benefit all involved.  Banks will usually work to accommodate sellers and buyers in this regard, they see this a lot.  Either way, do what you feel most comfortable with.  Good luck.

    Christine N. 

  • Residential Real Estate Broker · College Station, TX · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 969 votes
    9y

    Greg

    NONE of the Major Builders will even give Buyers a second thought about moving in before Closing - It's a HARD NO! 

    Mostly they say it's about Liability! Whatever the reason, they have legal staff, etc that has determined NO Prior Possession to be the correct policy. I would follow their lead!

    Tell them you'll be ready to close when the Loan is ready! If you want to be assuage your conscience - offer to pickup part of their storage costs.

  • Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
    Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
    9y

    we don't do this on our new construction.. you want THEM pressuring their lender to get it done while they are in a motel.. that's what residence inns are for.

    in rare instances I have given them possession of the garage.. but that is like on a sat and the close is on Monday..

    its a frequent request we get.. and as other stated no way they are getting in our brand new construction home before they own it.

  • Rental Property Investor · Rockford, IL · Member since 2014 · 4k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    9y

    @Greg Banister,

    Any chance they can do a rent-back to stay in their current home until the new one closes?

  • Karen MargraveBusiness Member
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    Realtor, General Contractor, and Developer · Redding, CA · Member since 2009 · 7k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    9y

    Once someone moves in it's no longer a "new" home, and if something happens, you're getting less for the house than you could have. 

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