Clayton Morris is suing James Wise

Real Estate Broker · Cleveland Dayton Cincinnati Toledo Columbus & Akron, OH · Member since 2013 · 30k+ posts · 20k+ votes

It seems that Clayton Morris is willing to do anything he can to suppress the voices of those investors who claim to have lost money investing with his company Morris Invest.

After loosing his copyright claim with YouTube about my Landlords From Hell video trailer Clayton Morris is now suing me in attempt to keep me from releasing the full length film.

Here is the case information for all of you as it's all public record.

Morris v. Wise, No. 1:19-cv-02467 (N.D. Ohio)

Here is a fluff piece put our by his legal and PR team.

Daily Dicta: Former ‘Fox & Friends’ Anchor Turned Real Estate Guru Turns Tables on Competitor

Bring it on Clayton.....

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Frank Jiang

Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2014 · 592 posts · 765 votes

It's sad that money taken from clients is now being used to suppress their stories.

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Ed B.
Real Estate Investor · Sacramento, CA · Member since 2010 · 292 posts · 103 votes
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Hey John, did you see where Natalie advised a client, who was worried about how to pay for operating expenses, to simply have their LLC pay those expenses? As if that was some type of "rich uncle" who could save the day. All they had to do was tap into that "brilliant technique" and their problem was solved. That was really s****ty advice, since money doesn't magically appear in an LLC bank account any more than it would a normal account. I had to wonder, is Natalie really that clueless? Or did she think the new investor would be too stupid to recognize it as bad advice? I swear I'm not making this up.
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Richard Bonisa
Investor · Indianapolis · Member since 2019 · 108 posts · 69 votes
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Wow. That is awful. What a scandal in Indianapolis. There are a few other companies of which I think have done alot of harm in Indy. When it's just buying or selling - its easy to understand comps and probabilities. When you involve rehab, local hard money, construction, contractors, project management, or project oversight, "project oversight", etc. - it's only as good as the ethics behind the information. There are some good players, some bad players, and some players that just dont know what they are doing. Having boots on the ground is vital, but only as ethical as who you do business with.
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James Wise
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Real Estate Broker · Cleveland Dayton Cincinnati Toledo Columbus & Akron, OH · Member since 2013 · 30k+ posts · 20k+ votes
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Originally posted by @Richard Bonisa:
Wow. That is awful. What a scandal in Indianapolis. There are a few other companies of which I think have done alot of harm in Indy. When it's just buying or selling - its easy to understand comps and probabilities. When you involve rehab, local hard money, construction, contractors, project management, or project oversight, "project oversight", etc. - it's only as good as the ethics behind the information. There are some good players, some bad players, and some players that just dont know what they are doing. Having boots on the ground is vital, but only as ethical as who you do business with.

Who else had done a ton of harm in Indy? What happened?
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Richard Bonisa
Investor · Indianapolis · Member since 2019 · 108 posts · 69 votes
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At one time Alpine had a bad reputation (from what I've heard, and in my opinion).
Indianapolis is tough at times because there are some high profile companies, and they just give bogus numbers and projections. They know better, clearly. I've been in a unique position to be part of a team that vetted some of those numbers. Wow! What I saw was awful.
It's hard for me to say much more publicly. There are some litigious companies and people our there.
I'm just trying to convey the idea of due diligence in the process. It's only ethical, you know?
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Account Closed
Fairfax, MO · Member since 2017 · 113 posts · 170 votes
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I've come out to Indianapolis this weekend to visit my Morris Invest property this weekend.
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Brian Ploszay
Investor · Chicago, IL · Member since 2009 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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Interesting, but you are picking a fight that is not yours. Unless you were an investor in his scheme. So this will take your time and your money if you hire an attorney to defend yourself. I think this guy's business is on the downswing anyway...
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Nick GiulioniPro Member
Rental Property Investor · Carmel, IN · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 615 votes
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Originally posted by @Account Closed:
I've come out to Indianapolis this weekend to visit my Morris Invest property this weekend.

How bad is it?
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James Wise
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Real Estate Broker · Cleveland Dayton Cincinnati Toledo Columbus & Akron, OH · Member since 2013 · 30k+ posts · 20k+ votes
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Originally posted by @Richard Bonisa:
At one time Alpine had a bad reputation (from what I've heard, and in my opinion).
Indianapolis is tough at times because there are some high profile companies, and they just give bogus numbers and projections. They know better, clearly. I've been in a unique position to be part of a team that vetted some of those numbers. Wow! What I saw was awful.
It's hard for me to say much more publicly. There are some litigious companies and people our there.
I'm just trying to convey the idea of due diligence in the process. It's only ethical, you know?

Don't be scared of the litigious companies out there Rich. Just think you could start your own thread like this one if one of them sues you lol.

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James Wise
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Real Estate Broker · Cleveland Dayton Cincinnati Toledo Columbus & Akron, OH · Member since 2013 · 30k+ posts · 20k+ votes
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Originally posted by @Ed B.:
Hey John, did you see where Natalie advised a client, who was worried about how to pay for operating expenses, to simply have their LLC pay those expenses? As if that was some type of "rich uncle" who could save the day. All they had to do was tap into that "brilliant technique" and their problem was solved. That was really s****ty advice, since money doesn't magically appear in an LLC bank account any more than it would a normal account. I had to wonder, is Natalie really that clueless? Or did she think the new investor would be too stupid to recognize it as bad advice? I swear I'm not making this up.

Yea she says a lot of stuff that doesn't make any sense. I think he's just got her on there for eye candy and to give him the family man image. It works. One of the investors in my documentary film who invested around $700,000 can be heard saying she never would have pulled the trigger if Natali Morris and their kids weren't featured there next to him.
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James Wise
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Real Estate Broker · Cleveland Dayton Cincinnati Toledo Columbus & Akron, OH · Member since 2013 · 30k+ posts · 20k+ votes
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Originally posted by @Brian Ploszay:
Interesting, but you are picking a fight that is not yours. Unless you were an investor in his scheme. So this will take your time and your money if you hire an attorney to defend yourself. I think this guy's business is on the downswing anyway...

Wasn't going to let some legal brawling scare me from making a film that's as important to the turnkey industry as this one was.
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Pavel Shemyakin
Rental Property Investor · CA · Member since 2018 · 135 posts · 174 votes
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LOL

@Ed B. you got a link to that?
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Ed B.
Real Estate Investor · Sacramento, CA · Member since 2010 · 292 posts · 103 votes
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Originally posted by @Pavel Shemyakin:
LOL

@Ed B. you got a link to that?
Pavel, I'd love to send it to you, but I wish I'd saved at least a screen shot of it. I think it was part of some promotional material from Morris Invest,and may have been on Youtube.com. I just can't remember for sure. Sorry. But it definitely was an eye opener because the "advice" from her was so ignorantly wrong. I

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Pavel Shemyakin
Rental Property Investor · CA · Member since 2018 · 135 posts · 174 votes
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@Ed B.
I'm pretty sure these people wrote a ****in book. Not even kidding.
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Ed B.
Real Estate Investor · Sacramento, CA · Member since 2010 · 292 posts · 103 votes
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Pavel, but I did find this one for you. A video from Clayton Morris recorded Jan. 2, 2019, in which he says within the first 30 seconds "This is a year of no more excuses...."
Hmmm, excuses is all we've heard from him since then to "explain" why so many investors are so unhappy with their investments he "sold/brokered" to them.
Have a listen here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_QLoz4bWgA
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James Wise
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Real Estate Broker · Cleveland Dayton Cincinnati Toledo Columbus & Akron, OH · Member since 2013 · 30k+ posts · 20k+ votes
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Clayton Morris vs James Wise - Case: 1:19-cv-02467-DCN

(Clayton Morris sues James Wise for over $7 Million for film produced by HoltonWiseTV)

CLICK HERE For the most recent CASE UPDATE complete with the filed court documents from James Wise and Clayton Morris.
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Brian Freeman
Corona, CA · Member since 2016 · 48 posts · 100 votes
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It's too bad Clayton will lose on a motion to dismiss or motion for summary judgment because I would fly out to personally testify as a victim of Clayton Morris' fraud in a trial. It will never reach trial - he will be crushed and his lawyers are fools for filing the frivolous case.
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James Wise
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Real Estate Broker · Cleveland Dayton Cincinnati Toledo Columbus & Akron, OH · Member since 2013 · 30k+ posts · 20k+ votes
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Originally posted by @Brian Freeman:
It's too bad Clayton will lose on a motion to dismiss or motion for summary judgment because I would fly out to personally testify as a victim of Clayton Morris' fraud in a trial. It will never reach trial - he will be crushed and his lawyers are fools for filing the frivolous case.

Gotta love the irony of the Streisand effect...lol Clayton's never going to white wash this crap.

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