Self Storage Day to day Constructing a new facility

Self Storage Day to day Constructing a new facility

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Day in the life- Constructing a New Facility location

23 June 2020, 08:39 
We are starting our 8th and final storage location. I will try to give an update as we go through construction. Although this will be instructional, you will probably also get to see the "thinking" and "concerns" about the project from my viewpoint at different stages. Things I would forget to tell you, if you said tell me about building a location.  330 unit drive up facility.

8th and final-
A. As you build each location, you have to put in so much equity up front. Could be 10%/15%/25%/40%. At some point you ask yourself how much do you want to extend yourself., We are expanding at such a fast rate, that we have not let the prior Storage location's equity buildup to support these final projects for collateralization.
B. Even though we have a very efficient system to handle multiple locations, at some point you tap the point of enough is enough., We run all of our business through one phone. Its not that bad once you are rented up, but can be a little hectic during the rent up stages.
C. Not to get into specifics but we also have other Life ambitions and other Financial alternatives we are looking at, to both diversify our assets (Teak Trees) and to enjoy different aspects of our lives.

Before Dirt Work Started-
A. Looked for a site that was "SAFER" from other competitors storage expansion. This location was under a "Planned Community" (PC) zoning, which I normally would not have known to look at. Luckily the realtor knew about the Special Condition/Use permit potential for Storage.,
B. The hilly topography doesn't lend itself to storage. There are only two more locations that are flat enough and they both have issues with them.
C. Engineering costs- We spent far more on engineering than expected. We were working around the lay of the ground for drainage and trying to fit as many units as possible to justify the project. $$$$
D. Hidden items- These were issues staring me straight in the face, but I didn't "See" them. The Fire hydrant on the property was a private hydrant for the property attached to the North, that could not be used. Originally both properties were owned by the same person. Plus the city requires all road side properties that don't have water to put in a line along all of the roadside. $$$$$$
E. Hidden items- The soft wet spot in the middle of the field was the hillside pushing water to the surface at the base of the hill. Although not a Spring, it is still too wet to build on top of. We will need to put a series of Drain Tiles underneath to take the water away. $$$$$

Day 1 of Dirt Work:
A. Contractor called the day before and said he was ready to start. Waited for him for 5 months to finish a large government project. He was both going to be available, cost was lower than other competitors and I know him professionally and personally.
B. Pulled up with 2 Scrapers and hopped the curb. This is a major Bike path and dog walking sidewalk. 3,000 vehicle per day traffic count, off major artery. So we decided on one construction entry spot. That way if we broke the sidewalk, we would have only one spot to fix and one issue with the path users. Our actual facility entry way is further east on the road. But we don't want to use it, otherwise we will bust up all of our concrete roads after we pour them.
C. Went to pull Dirt Permit and State Storm drain permit, the dirt contractor will need to do it and show them their license. About $3,000 for permit.
D. To build Office, the General Contractor who is building the pads and buildings will need to submit his license.
E. The final Building prints are not approved. I just had to give them a letter saying I would put Wainscot on the street visible side of the buildings. This was part of the agreement with the Planned Community zoning. They are also requiring Barred fence, versus chainlink fence.
F. Stopped off at the General Contractors office to start the order for 5 of the buildings. We will build these late in the fall after we can't put anymore pads in (before the ground freezes). We will put the office in, right off the bat, so the Electrician, Plummer, Security and Construction crews will have a place to stub all of the main controls and also have a warm bathroom to use.
G. These 5 buildings touch the fence line. So I want them built so we can put the fence in around the construction site for safety.
H. Stopped at the Retaining Wall group. We have two retaining walls to help with Dirt elevation. We did not want to haul any dirt off the location, so it was cheaper to build retaining walls in key spots and use the dirt there to flatten the site. Both the Retaining wall company and the dirt work company need to work hand in hand. The retaining wall company needs the dirt cleared about 8 feet back from the wall. This is so they can use Geogrid fabric as a Deadman to keep the wall from pushing out. So the Dirt company doesn't have to move the dirt twice, he needs to know to keep it back and also to clear out the dirt for 8 feet.
I. Attached are some pictures of Day 1. Should have a dry day tomorrow, then rain.
J. Using Scrapers versus Bulldozers. Bulldozers can only push dirt, Scrapers can carry it. Far more efficient to carry the dirt, if you have a lot and the distance is over 100 feet. The Grading company and I decided to bill me on an hourly rate, versus per day. Any break downs, partial rainouts or getting stuck, don't get billed to me.
K. Usually you would compact the dirt as you go. These scrapers are compacting the dirt, so we don't have a compactor running behind them. Also without getting to much into the site most of the building site will be the original dirt (compacted) and not moved dirt. Since the driveway and parking will be over where most of the dirt is being moved and we don't plan to build there until next year, it will have a chance to compact over Winter.
L. Will move in 3 inch "Clean" rock at the work entrance and out on the property as a hard surface for the construction vehicles and to clean dirt off prior to driving onto the roadway. We are required to have 75 feet of rock to clean dirt off. Keep the neighbors happy and so we don't get fined.
M. On the bottom right of the drawing, is the Storm retention pond. Give you an idea of how much land you have to give up for drainage, if required.

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Investor · Clairemont, CA · Member since 2011 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
6y
Originally posted by @Henry Clark:

Underneath this pond is a private sewer line going up to the Apartment complex on the left. Our Attorney is working up an easement to allow their line on our property. This was never recorded. The Development folks won't give us a build permit unless we get this in place.

We were originally going to tap into it, but our Engineer said to tap into the Main line. That way if any maintenance is ever needed on the Apartment line there is no dispute who has to pay. About the same distance and cost either way.

Looks like a great project! I'm currently a site/land use Civil, but the goal is to move into the small developer role and complete a lot of my own work similar to how you're managing your project. 

A thought on your sewer, you may want to see if you can put in an automatic termination clause. i.e. if they ever have to dig it up and replace it then the easement terminates and they'll have to relocate the line. Or if they fight the requirement to relocate (which they probably will) then just that if they ever choose to relocate it the easement terminates at that point. I've seen quite a few easements that are arguably abandoned and therefor could be unilaterally vacated, but lacked an abandonment clause. So we're either forced to pursue a quiet title, or attempt to get someone to agree to release their interest in the easement... 

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  • Henry ClarkPro Member
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    2 October 2020, 06:25 PM Beautiful weather. Dry and cool. Concrete construction crew is rolling along.
    Got two of the small pads poured and frames torn off.
    They just poured the second two buildings footings. It will take them Mon/Tuesday and Wednesday to get the sand, vapor barrier sheet and rebar in place.

    Plumber is supposed to come on site next week. They will install the storm outlet drain and the facilities to the office.

    Kind of excited to see the plumber tap into the sewer and water lines. I always thought they cut the service off for everyone and then cut into the line and added an extension. But I guess they "tap" or drill into the lines while they are live and attach. Have to see how they do that without getting sprayed.

    They are moving a lot faster on this project with the skidsteer to move the trench dirt, removable steel corner forms and the attachment to clean dirt out of the trench corners.

    Have one more pad site where the white trailer is, to do, then we will be done with these small buildings at the entrance.

    Move on to three larger building pads, 230/250/250 long 40/30/40 widths. Have to check next week on the delivery schedule and the building crew.


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    Learn something everyday.  The pad below is 40 foot wide.  To give it a smooth surface they are running a "float" over it.  Made a comment about using the Bull float, and they said no, this is a "Fresno" float.  Guess the Bull float is used to level the concrete a little better than the power screed they use.  Then they use the Fresno float to give it a better finish.  Two people pushing and pulling.  The person on the far side to pick it up and move it to the side.

    Electricians are working around everyone.  Plumber and Concrete.  They really laid a lot of underground line out this day.  They will have to come back when the other trades are further along.  Decided we would run two underground cables.  Since the site is so long, one cable will handle the near buildings and the larger cable will handle the farthest 1/3 of the buildings.  This is due to the distance and losing voltage over that far.

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    3 November 2020, 05:03 PM Retaining wall finished up. All our fences and walls usually are about 1 foot off the property line. The first picture looks like it is coming across the straight fence line, which it is. About 10 foot to the right of the wall out of the picture is our corner boundary and the property line runs along the back of the cars facing the fence. They have an easement for this land. Both the apartment and our land used to be owned by the same person.

    The second picture is to help support the land for the pad to the right of it. Has dirt on it, so hard to see. Same pad in both wall pictures. This is a 15 foot wide pad. Originally I was going to do a 20. But we have to plant between the wall and the building so I shrunk the width down. I won't plant the shrubs on top of the wall till spring, so the building erectors don't have to step around it. I did go ahead and put grass seed down and grass mat. Really to late in the year, here for seeding, but put it down anyways. Should sprout in the spring.

    All of the retaining walls combined equaled about 2,000 square feet. Ended up being $36,000. Cleaned the edges of the property up on the two pictures below. And the real long wall pushed the hill back to we could add about 28 more units. Will be close penciling out to revenue, but makes the property look a lot cleaner.

    Also put a "Dry" wash area to drain water from behind our building and next to apartment complex. Otherwise water would back up into part of the apartment. Used a skid steer to dig the ditch out. Then put extra silt fence material I had down to prevent soil erosion. Then put rip rap in it to slow the water down and to hold the fabric in place. Again this is to get water around the apartment building to the right which our property line is only about 4 feet off their building corner.

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    Forgot pictures on last post.

  • Realtor · Boston, MA · Member since 2019 · 244 posts · 275 votes
    5y

    Thanks for putting so much detail into this thread! I live in the congested East Coast where finding an 8 acre site is more or less impossible, and if you can find one it will go to a 9 figure development with hundreds of high end condos. But it's interesting to learn about all the site work and engineering and everything else. 


    It's also interesting to note that no matter how long someone works in this business, their best estimates about time and cost never seem to work out. My first rehab I remember sweating $400 cost overruns. Then I moved up to sweating $4000 cost overruns. This year I had a $40k cost overrun and made it work. And you are dealing with a $400k overrun and it seems like it is causing you about the same stress. Guess I know what to aspire to!

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    @Jason Turgeon

    My saying is "Start small and Make your Big Mistakes early."  Obviously I don't follow my own rule.  Luckily the bigger we have gotten, it is all relative to the size of the location.  

    Land/Storage can be found anywhere, even in the middle of Boston.  Read my Zoning, I3???? post.  I'm sure there are 3 bare acres right in the middle of Boston proper waiting to be purchased.

    On the detail.  This is our last Storage location we are buying or building.  Thus I thought to pass on the experiences.  A lot of people buy and sell, but have not developed with all of its issues.  Moving on to our next type of investment.

    Building is supposed to start mid December when the buildings get here.  About half way thru with this thread.

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    Great weather today around 75. Normal should be 50. Had both the Road and the pad contractors going to town. Racing Mother Nature. The limiting factor right now is everyone is crushing it before winter sets in and no concrete can be poured. You have to schedule three days in advance for concrete. Concrete offices open at 6:30 and if you haven't called by 7:30 all the slots 3 days out are taken. Once the ground freezes you can't pour concrete on it, unless you keep the ground warm with heat blankets which is expensive and time consuming. And then you have to keep the poured concrete warm. Concrete generally has to be above 40 degrees, otherwise the concrete won't set and you just have mud and gravel.

    Attachment one below showing you two things. The metal rod with the orange safety stop so you don't trip and stab yourself is the Electric ground for this pad. It is about a 20 foot piece of rebar bent in a long L shape with about 2 1/2 feet above ground. This will help with any lightning hits or electrical issues, from frying your camera or computer systems, or blowing the back wall out of your building.

    At the base of the building you can now see how the building Rain guard lip and then the Road work together to keep water out of the building. The rain guard lip is about 1 inch below the floor. The black rubber guard on the roll up door will provide a sill so the rain doesn't blow under the door. If it does, then the 1 inch concrete lip keeps the water out.

    The road is also set about 1 inch below the pad, helping to keep the water out. Also if we have frost heave, the road will still be below the pad or at worst even with it, thus keeping water out.


    Second attachment are forms I placed while they were pouring the concrete. These are on the corners of the buildings where we will put steel post bollards. We could have let them pour over this, but then we would have to pay about $100 per hole to have a concrete "core" driller come out to use a circular saw to cut a hole. We will come back later with a post hole digger and dig down 3 feet. Then put a 7 foot steel post in. Then we will pour concrete into the hole. I do it the lazy way. I pour water into the hole. Then I slowly pour the dry concrete into the hole. That way I don't have to mix the concrete above ground. Will show you later.


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  • Realtor · Boston, MA · Member since 2019 · 244 posts · 275 votes
    5y

    Still enjoying this. Always cool to learn about different construction techniques. The photos you linked give an error message when I click through, looks like some kind of forum we need to be members of to see the pics.

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    Beautiful days and a lot getting done.

    Road crew are pouring the final half of a section.  We normally do 25 foot wide roads, you could do 20.  Splitting that is 12.5 feet half sections.  A concrete truck is roughly 8 feet wide.  Thus they are able to back down and pour the last half.

    By doing to slab halves they are able to put a V in the middle to let the water run down.  Normally you don't want this to occur, because if water gets between and underneath, it will erode out the wall.  I will get a close up picture how they interlock the two slabs later.

    Again on the picture above in the right front corner, you can see I put in a cardboard circular form to come back later and put in our Bollard to protect the corners of the buildings.

    The next picture they are pulling a brush across the fresh driveway concrete.  This bristly brush will put a rougher texture to the surface making it safer to drive on, versus leaving  a smooth surface.

    The next picture shows the grey foam they are putting between the building pad and as they pour the road.  This is expansion joint so as the ground heaves or thaws the road and the building pad move separately.

    Below is our existing office front.  On the ground you will note a metal ramp to get into both the office and the bathroom.  We have to be ADA compliant and we forgot to pour the concrete for the road higher to meet the office.  Don't have a picture, but we remembered and got it right on this site.  My builder did a great job on the ramp and securing it, but its just one snow push or knock away from dislodging.

    Its Thursday and we can't get anymore concrete this week.  So the builder will work to get the final and last pad ready to pour.  He has 1/2 of the previous pad to pour on Monday.  Since its Thanksgiving next week, he will probably not start the pour on the last pad.

    The road crew won't get concrete till next week, so they are forming up the roads and getting ready for next week.  Once everyone is offsite this weekend.  I need to go and lower the dry wash area I did.  Its about a foot high in about a 10 foot area.  Otherwise water will dam up behind it a little.  Also need to build another drywash area, which I will explain later.

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    Also got the Bank Officer out to see the jobsite. Walked him through the status of where we are at and then what will be accomplished the remainder of this year and then the final push next year. We will have a footprint for about 360 units. But I think I will change some of the shorter buildings down to 12 or 15 wide; 12 foot tall and 30 or 40 foot long. To expand the offering. First set of buildings will come in mid December and hopefully get completed by end of February. Although we won't have many rented out during the winter, the community will start to see us and we will be ready for the Spring rental push. This winter hope to get about 150 units finished and start renting.


    The second Phase we will probably start building pads and roads again in May and hopefully complete around August. March and April, the "bottom" usually drops out of the soil. Over winter the soil freezes. Right when it thaws in the spring, some spots really get spongy and a pothole forms. So we will wait till May to start again.

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    Covering bathroom. Each city is probably different. Ours requires 60 inches circumference for a wheel chair to have clearance to turn in. This room is 10 x 10 way to big. Our next location bathroom is about half this size. In the picture above our plumber had to replace the sink since they put a 4 legged sink in. You can't get a wheel chair under. The wall next to the commode they had to build an extension, since the commode was to far from the wall. So much for following the engineering drawings. I had to pay to fix both. As noted the concrete out front has to be at door level for a wheel chair.

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    Our Electrician did a great job. The light sensor on the left turns the lights on and then off. You can adjust the sensor to different heights. If it goes off you just need motion. The heater is to the right. It has a dial, so you can set and it will turn on/off on its own depending on temp. Keep it low around 50 so pipes don't freeze.

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    This is the bathroom air vent. This was a little tricky at inspection time. The city requires an HVAC contractor to install "Mechanical". My Electrician came back later to install since I couldn't find an HVAC person to come and install just this little fan.

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    Weather is about to shut us down pouring more concrete. The driveway itself is finished, but it runs through a sidewalk, which we might not get poured this year. Really wanted to get this done since this is a major walking and bike trail.

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    The above is our last driveway between two of our large pads. 60 degree day, The next week is 35 highs with precipitation.

    Our building contractor will only come on site if we have concrete hard surface all around, or rock base to work off of. We will have all roads done, except for a small part where we will put rock down.
    They don't want to work in mud and also track mud onto the building pads.

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    The farthest pad was our last large pad we put up. We now have all of our pads poured. Final thing we were trying to get done were the roads.
    Tuesday 15th, the Building manufacturer is set to deliver the buildings on site. We will have them use the last pad as the laydown pad and take material from there.

    So hopefully next week will send you some Building Erection pictures. We will probably not open up until Early Spring since the entrance is not totally down and we still have one section of road not completed. Just depends on the weather for the next two weeks.


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    Below is a Lien Waiver form. As I pay off the larger vendors, I have them sign this for our bank. This says they have paid all of their vendors related to this project. You would hate to pay your Road crew the full bill, to find out months later the Concrete company has not been paid and they want you to pay the bill a second time.

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  • Specialist · Charleston SC · Member since 2016 · 73 posts · 42 votes
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    @Henry Clark this is such an amazing thread. THANK YOU so much for doing this. I’m finishing up the rehab on my first facility and looking at a new construction build for project #2. This was so helpful.

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    @Steve Cheslock

    Its not polished, but definitely something for everyone, even my mistakes.

  • Specialist · Charleston SC · Member since 2016 · 73 posts · 42 votes
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    Originally posted by @Henry Clark:

    Still a ways off before we open.  Started interviewing night watchmen.  I think I have a candidate.  Passed the neck strength test.

     Haha... my first dog was a very big Rottie.  Love it.  

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    Our first portions of buildings have been delivered. Starting erection as of day 2. Although its cold, luckily the sun is out, no wind. Everything is on concrete paving or rock so no mud or ice. We have been 10 degrees below normal and with snow/ice on the ground, which we normally don't have. Next week temps will pick up a little. Won't be up and renting this winter, but 1/2 of the buildings will be in place ready for the Spring season.

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    Had two days with 50 highs. The road contractor was able to pour the two sidewalk edges. This is a major bike, jogging and dog walking section. So I really wanted to get this in, before winter closed out pouring concrete. This is the last work we will do until around March of next year with concrete. The orange rubber bumps are required by the city to assist with visually impaired at crossings. Will give the concrete about 7 days to cure, then will remove the barricades.  Get back to being a good neighbor, yahoo.

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    Probably wait till spring to do grass and landscaping.

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    Being from Louisiana, sometime I just have to say Honey, I love you.

    Just got our ice and snow removed about two days ago from the Shady side of our buildings. Now our next snow storm is moving in. Hopefully it will be light. And we have some 40 degree days following.

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    Again, part of this post is sharing my failures and hopefully lessons learned. The building above is double pitched roof one side facing south and the other facing north. The north facing side gets no sun and takes forever to melt. You can get the ground cleaned, but the snow and ice on the roof keeps thawing and re-freezing, making the road below slick.

    The next picture is a 40 x 200 building on our new location. We ordered with a single pitch roof facing the south. Should melt off fast and keep the road clear. The north facing sides we will just need to remove the snow/ice on the ground and not worry about liquid from the roof.

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    Everything averages out. As much trouble as we had with our contractors erecting buildings on our last project, this crew is just knocking it out of the park. Next week we will have sunny days, highs of 45 and lows of 25. This is great weather for our area. They have one 30 x 220 building left to do and to wrap up some of the smaller buildings they have half finished. Took them over some Korean bulgogi, tagi gogi and chop chai for lunch. That hit the spot, they couldn't talk, they were eating so fast.

    Below is the office. Where you see the bottoms on the outside not done, that is where we have to put wainscot. Will walk you through that process later. Glass doors are to be replaced with solid doors for security.

    Multiple steps and in order have to be performed:
    My site contractor needs to partially finished the interior walls and ceilings.
    Then my plumber has to install fixtures in the wall.
    Then spray foam.
    Then finish interior walls with same clad.
    Then Electrician and plumber have to finish.



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    Next picture is side of smaller units. Again, bottom wainscot has to be installed. You can see we had 6 inches of snow on the ground. The large 40 x 200 building was erected but without the roof when the snow fell. So we have a lot of snow in the buildings. With the 40 degrees weather next week, we will open the doors so it can melt off, versus spending the time shoveling.

    You might note the roofs are single slope towards the front of the building. Normally we would do to the back of the building to get the water out of the travel area. The Storm pond has extremely steep sides, so I did not want the water to steadily erode the banks. It will go to a road drain and then into the pond.

    Will have to get closer shots, but the roof ridges stand higher. This is because it is a Standing Seam roof, versus a screw down roof. Costs a little more, but less chance of leaks and screws working themselves out. Will get some close ups and process.

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  • Real Estate Consultant · State College, PA · Member since 2018 · 3 posts · 1 vote
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    @Henry Clark phenomenal writeup so far!

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    @Spencer Evans

    Your a hard one to please, ha ha.  "So Far". 

    We are about 1/2 way through.  Still a long way to go.

    See your a PHD candidate at Penn State in Real Estate.

    If you haven't picked a thesis yet, please do your topic on is the Self Storage business about to crash.  I get a chuckle each time I see one of these posts.

    Or, just do it on Self Storage.

    Best wishes on your program.

  • Real Estate Consultant · State College, PA · Member since 2018 · 3 posts · 1 vote
    5y

    @Henry Clark I might have to pick your brain sometime then!

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    Addl info. We went with a "Standing Seam" roof for these buildings. A little higher cost than normal screw down.  I will do a separate post on Standing Seam roofs.

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