Extra eyes needed on a 46 unit apartment deal I am analyzing

Extra eyes needed on a 46 unit apartment deal I am analyzing

Rental Property Investor · TX · Member since 2019 · 32 posts · 26 votes

Hello,

I am trying to buy my first apartment complex. I currently own 11 single family rental properties. I did an interest-only cash out refinance last month and pulled out $914,000 that I want to use to buy an apartment. My single family portfolio cash flowed $80k a year before my refinance and it now cash flows about $40k. My goal is to get a combined cash flow of at least $200k and in 5 years, I want to payoff my interest only loan and own my single family properties out right. 

I would appreciate any feedback on this deal. If you see any red flags or opportunities I missed. I also want to know if my offer is too high or low. 

My thinking

I view this as a value add investment opportunity. Based on T12 data and other documents I viewed I recalculated the apartment value. I used NOI of 175,646 and the DFW area value add cap rate of 5.5% to get a value of $3,193,663. Since they have a low reserve for security deposit, high late payment rates and no metered utility, electricity or gas, I offered $3,000,000. I reasoned the $193,663 can be used as reserve for metering the property and other needed non-recurring replacements. Is my offer too low? I would like to get the units metered but don't know how much that will cost. Ideally an immediate win for me would be to cut expenses down from the present 65.5% to 50% with minimal expense which will add a million to the valuation and allow me to do a refinance in a few years to pull out equity to buy another apartment. 

Details about deal

  • 1970 46 unit apartment in the DFW area.
  • 26 units are 1 bedrm, 1bathroom | rent $990 |security deposit $100
  • 20 units are 2bedrm, 1.5bathrm | rent $1230 |security deposit $200
  • Asking price is $5,200,000 | NOI=$217k | Cap Rate=4.17

Revenues

  • Total Revenue=$567,776 | Net rental revenue=$449,923
  • rental losses=$117853
  • Other revenues (application fee, pet fees, deposit forfeitures) =$59,766
  • Total Revenue=$509,689

Operating Expenses

  • Total personnel expenses=$88,603
  • Total property administrative expenses=$28,277
  • Total Leasing expenses=$4907
  • Total utility expenses=$36,991
  • Total service expenses=$10,953
  • Total cleaning and decorating=$16,305
  • Total repairs and maintenance=$14,468
  • Total property taxes=$78,731
  • Total Hazard insurance=$27,107
  • Total operating expense=$334,042 (65.5%)
  • Net Operating Income=$175,646
  • Total non-recurring replacements=$25,086
  • Available for debt service=$25086
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Investor · Greenville, SC · Member since 2016 · 5k+ posts · 13k+ votes
4y

$3.0 million or $65k per unit for market rent of $1,100 per month is a nonstarter. How they run the property is not relevant to how you will run the property. They could have $0 NOI and have a property value greater than $0. The market value is not determined by the seller...it's determined by the buyers. Run your numbers, not theirs, to determine the strike price that meets your investment criteria.

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  • Rental Property Investor · TX · Member since 2019 · 32 posts · 26 votes
    4y

    @Steve K. based on data from the T12 I am comfortable at a $3.5million offer. I want to look at it to add context to the numbers I have been working with. However the broker wouldn't give me a tour unless my bid is around $4.5million. So do I just walk away or say I can do $4.5million if the property is in good enough condition to command that price.

  • Real Estate Broker · 3412 S. Harlem Avenue Riverside, IL 60546 · Member since 2015 · 6k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    4y

    @Emmanuel N Okafor this is what is so tough when you transition from being an experienced single family investor to a multifamily investor. There is a certain level of expertise that is assumed, and the only way to get this is experience. I was fortunate that I transitioned on my second deal to a 20 unit with a partner where I learned so, so much. 

    Working with commercial brokers can be challenging as well at first. Most investors purchase their first buildings from the MLS, which is a totally different experience. I work with first time investors all the time, and we build strong rapport with me looking out for their best interest whether they are buying or selling. The commercial guys are always on both sides though, and they get different types of listings. Some of their listings have very little meat on the bone, but they still need to hustle and sell it.

    If this deal is 1 million off based on your numbers, then I would send the broker a short and friendly note saying that you are looking for a deal that is a bit smaller to get your feet wet. Thank the broker for his or her time, and stay in touch. I made the mistake early on of not realizing I needed to provide feedback and just keep looking at their deals. Today I am doing deals with a broker that showed me many, many good deals I was too dumb to buy back in 2016-2017. 

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    Rental Property Investor · Indianapolis, IN · Member since 2018 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    4y

    @John Warren Well said. 

  • Realtor · Boulder, CO · Member since 2016 · 3k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    4y
    Quote from @Emmanuel N Okafor:

    @Steve K. based on data from the T12 I am comfortable at a $3.5million offer. I want to look at it to add context to the numbers I have been working with. However the broker wouldn't give me a tour unless my bid is around $4.5million. So do I just walk away or say I can do $4.5million if the property is in good enough condition to command that price.


    If $3.5M is the most you'd be willing to pay, I would send over an LOI at that amount (along with proof of funds of course) and see where it goes from there. Probably a long shot, but you never know.

  • Member since 2021 · 39 posts · 18 votes
    4y

    My impression is that in addition to a low likelihood of offer acceptance, you may be being a little aggressive here. Going from 11 tenants to 57 in one transaction is a big jump. You could buy a couple smaller buildings that wouldn't require any on-site or full-time staff and are closer to asking price (maybe like two 8-12 unit buildings), give some of your cash back to the bank, and see how you do. I have no experience in single family but I suspect it may be a bit of a different animal than multi (higher turnover, lower credit tenants, etc). 

  • Rental Property Investor · TX · Member since 2019 · 32 posts · 26 votes
    4y

    Perhaps I am...but not intentionally. My criteria is to buy the best deal I can find with $900K-$1million as down payment. This particular apartment happens to have 61 units but I have looked at others with 49 and 20. I am mostly interested in NOI and opportunities for value adds. I currently manage my 11 units while working full time. I intend to use a management company for the apartment which is why I am not fixated on the # of units.

    I have looked at smaller deals and the problem I have encountered is the NOI is just not there. When I have combined multiple such deals, they often don't perform as well as my single family houses.

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