1-4 Unit Non-Owner Occupied Financing - 80%+ LTV?

1-4 Unit Non-Owner Occupied Financing - 80%+ LTV?

Palmer Lake, CO · Member since 2014 · 10 posts · 1 vote

Hi Biggerpockets!

I have a question for those seasoned veterans out there that have more experience in the financing of 1-4 unit non-owner occupied multifamily. 

Let me start with a preface first: We purchased a townhome in July of last year with the ultimate goal of renting out, we are owner occupying this and put 5% down with a conventional lender. In March of this year we purchased a duplex with a bridge loan for 15 months from a local bank here as a portfolio loan, with 20% down or 80% LTV. Our plan is to cash out refi after the duplex seasons to pull our reno money out and get into a 30 year fixed.

Upon speaking with our favorite mortgage broker he informed us that it's a Fannie/Freddie rule that N/O/O multi-families require a 30% down or a 70% LTV.

Here are a few questions:

1) Has anyone else heard of this Fannie/Freddie rule of 70% LTV?

2) Has anyone had any success with a (Colorado-preferred) lender doing 80%+ LTV on a N/O/O multifamily?

Ultimately it's not financially troubling but I would love to lock less equity in this duplex to be able to do more deals faster!

Thanks in advance for your time and expertise!

Best,

Rob

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Melvin ListBusiness Member
Lender · Tampa, FL · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 381 votes
9y

@Rob Flagg on a multifamily conventional you will be capped at 70%.  There are many portfolio lenders that will cash out at 80%.

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  • Melvin ListBusiness Member
    Lender · Tampa, FL · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 381 votes
    9y

    @Rob Flagg on a multifamily conventional you will be capped at 70%.  There are many portfolio lenders that will cash out at 80%.

    C2 Financial
  • Palmer Lake, CO · Member since 2014 · 10 posts · 1 vote
    9y

    @Melvin List Awesome, thank you much for the second opinion! I really appreciate it. 

  • Melvin ListBusiness Member
    Lender · Tampa, FL · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 381 votes
    9y

    @Rob Flagg anytime!

    C2 Financial
  • Anthony GaydenPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Omaha, NE · Member since 2014 · 2k+ posts · 3k+ votes
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  • Palmer Lake, CO · Member since 2014 · 10 posts · 1 vote
    9y

    @Anthony Gayden This is so nice to see the breakdown of owner occupied and n/o/o's. Thanks for sending this along!

  • Chris MasonPro Member
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    Lender · CA · Member since 2015 · 9k+ posts · 10k+ votes
    9y
    Originally posted by @Rob Flagg:

    Hi Biggerpockets!

    I have a question for those seasoned veterans out there that have more experience in the financing of 1-4 unit non-owner occupied multifamily. 

    Let me start with a preface first: We purchased a townhome in July of last year with the ultimate goal of renting out, we are owner occupying this and put 5% down with a conventional lender. In March of this year we purchased a duplex with a bridge loan for 15 months from a local bank here as a portfolio loan, with 20% down or 80% LTV. Our plan is to cash out refi after the duplex seasons to pull our reno money out and get into a 30 year fixed.

    Upon speaking with our favorite mortgage broker he informed us that it's a Fannie/Freddie rule that N/O/O multi-families require a 30% down or a 70% LTV.

    Here are a few questions:

    1) Has anyone else heard of this Fannie/Freddie rule of 70% LTV?

    2) Has anyone had any success with a (Colorado-preferred) lender doing 80%+ LTV on a N/O/O multifamily?

    Ultimately it's not financially troubling but I would love to lock less equity in this duplex to be able to do more deals faster!

    Thanks in advance for your time and expertise!

    Best,

    Rob

    Rate/term refinances, Fannie/Freddie will both go for 75% LTV.

    Cash out refinances, Fannie/Freddie both cut you off at 70%.

    Fannie, Freddie, and my cheat sheet is below. Once you cross 4 financed properties, and then 6 financed properties up to a max of 10, the cheat sheet may not apply depending on the scenario. There are various other details left out, and the two things in stars at the bottom change pretty frequently. 

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