What is a fair partnership for a 30 unit multi family?

What is a fair partnership for a 30 unit multi family?

Member since 2018 · 92 posts · 10 votes

purchase price is $2mm.

25% downpayment is 500k.  

Is 7% interest on his 500k + a 60/40 split on whatever cashflows after that a fair deal?

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Evan KirkpatrickBusiness Member
Accountant · Round Rock, TX · Member since 2018 · 5 posts · 7 votes
7y

That's not an awesome deal for the investor investor unless the operator has a sterling track record and the deal is set up to be slam dunk.  I'd expect to see it more in the 8-10%, 70/30 range by default.  Interest rates have been creeping up - 7% isn't more than 1-2% than I would expect your commercial loan to come in at.

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  • Evan KirkpatrickBusiness Member
    Accountant · Round Rock, TX · Member since 2018 · 5 posts · 7 votes
    7y

    That's not an awesome deal for the investor investor unless the operator has a sterling track record and the deal is set up to be slam dunk.  I'd expect to see it more in the 8-10%, 70/30 range by default.  Interest rates have been creeping up - 7% isn't more than 1-2% than I would expect your commercial loan to come in at.

  • Rental Property Investor · Queens, NY · Member since 2018 · 99 posts · 70 votes
    7y

    If it is a turn key operation and not doing value add, I think the investor can buy the property on his own.

  • Rental Property Investor · Tampa, FL · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 969 votes
    7y

    Depends on the deal. If it is turnkey, as Leo mentioned, it doesn't seem fair. But if you are adding value, Evan's 8% and 70/30 split is better.

    If it is a single investor, you could negotiate a higher interest rate and then return all of their capital with a refinance or sale at the end of the agreed upon loan length.

  • Investor · Atlanta, GA · Member since 2016 · 241 posts · 86 votes
    7y

    I think it whatever you and the investor agree on. 

  • Real Estate Broker · Detroit, MI · Member since 2014 · 384 posts · 149 votes
    7y
    @Jim Growfer It depends. What’s NPI on the deal?
  • Ellis HammondPro Member
    Investor · Leawood, KS · Member since 2017 · 178 posts · 108 votes
    7y
    @Jim Growfer id like to know how this goes. I am also putting together a deal and considering the offer terms. I think 8-10% on his/her money and a 50/50 split on a kick *** deal would be a huge win for a passive investor! Is it fair?... that’s a no win question. Focus on providing a great product for your investor.
  • Investor · Souderton, PA · Member since 2016 · 24 posts · 1 vote
    7y

    Just a clarification question: When you say 60/40 or 70/30, the other investor gets the higher %?

    Thanks

  • Member since 2018 · 92 posts · 10 votes
    7y

    @Evan Kirkpatrick Thanks Evan that definitely helps

  • Member since 2018 · 92 posts · 10 votes
    7y

    @Leo Poon

    true that Leo. i would be doing a value add but i still believe it is too low now from the feedback ive been getting :)

  • Evan KirkpatrickBusiness Member
    Accountant · Round Rock, TX · Member since 2018 · 5 posts · 7 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Dan Cardone:

    Just a clarification question: When you say 60/40 or 70/30, the other investor gets the higher %?

    Thanks

    Yes, the investor side gets the higher number.

  • Member since 2018 · 92 posts · 10 votes
    7y

    @Theo Hicks

    another great idea theo i like that refinance option!

  • Member since 2018 · 92 posts · 10 votes
    7y

    @Dan Cardone yes dan the investor gets the higher %

  • Member since 2018 · 92 posts · 10 votes
    7y

    @Ellis Hammond i think Evans 70/30 is a lot more fair until i have more expierence

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