Commercial loans -Are you going to refinance at high % rates?

Commercial loans -Are you going to refinance at high % rates?

Glendale, AZ · Member since 2017 · 1k+ posts · 238 votes

Interest rates are going up. With commercial loans you have to refinance every 5 years or so. What is your strategy for financing if interest rates are high on a commercial loan and you can not afford to refinance the property you own?

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Kenneth GarrettPro Member
Investor · Florida Panhandle/Illinois · Member since 2016 · 4k+ posts · 3k+ votes
7y

@Mary Jay

When it’s time to refinance you should be refinancing at a lower balance and in 5 years the rent should have gone up.                

Original Loan

100K at 5% at 20 yr amort. = 659                                       

in 5 years the balance is

84500 at 6% = 598

Plus rent should be higher and I understand taxes may be higher as well.  You should not be any worse.

Good Luck

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  • Rental Property Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2013 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    7y

    You don’t have much of an option. I just refinanced a loan I had a 4.5% to 5.2%. Sucks but it’s the name of the game. On the flip side I had a lot of loans at 6+% that I refinanced under 5

    If your property won’t make money with an interest rate bump then it’s not making much money. But the answer is you’d need to sell. 

  • Kenneth GarrettPro Member
    Investor · Florida Panhandle/Illinois · Member since 2016 · 4k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    7y

    @Mary Jay

    When it’s time to refinance you should be refinancing at a lower balance and in 5 years the rent should have gone up.                

    Original Loan

    100K at 5% at 20 yr amort. = 659                                       

    in 5 years the balance is

    84500 at 6% = 598

    Plus rent should be higher and I understand taxes may be higher as well.  You should not be any worse.

    Good Luck

  • Glendale, AZ · Member since 2017 · 1k+ posts · 238 votes
    7y

    Thank u!

    Do u guys think interest rates may go up to 7-8-9 percent sometimes ? 

  • Real Estate Agent · Plano, TX · Member since 2015 · 734 posts · 511 votes
    7y

    @Mary Jay we try to lock our loans to longer time frames (10-12 years) so we'll have lower balances when it's time to refinance. As you were told above, if you can't get a loan at that point, you'll have to sell.

    As for projections, we are in a weird place at the moment where the Trump administration is stepping on the economy gas pedal with incentives and tax reforms while at the same time the Federal Reserve is pushing on the breaks to try and slow down the economy. 

    While 7-8-9% rates are not impossible, I don't think our economy is in a place right now to support that much rate hikes in the next 12-24 months.

  • Glendale, AZ · Member since 2017 · 1k+ posts · 238 votes
    7y

    You guys are all very smart! Thank you so much for sharing! :-)

  • Rental Property Investor · Chantilly, VA · Member since 2017 · 104 posts · 149 votes
    7y

    Properly underwriting the debt is one of the most important pieces of the puzzle, after all, the lender is usually bringing most of the cash to the deal. 

    It seems like most economists I have listened to and read do not believe that the current global debt load can support a dramatic increase in rates, and for that reason the Fed will not stress the current interest environment much further over the near term. The truth is, anyone who believes they know exactly where interest rates are headed are only fooling themselves. After getting a good feel for the current environment, our job as investors is to develop a business plan accordingly, underwrite conservatively and to protect against the downside. 

    I would first think about your personal comfort with the debt load you put on any given property. There is something to be said for the peace of mind you receive for a lower leveraged deal with plenty of room for error. This is true for both you and your investors if you are planning on raising money. Yes, you will be sacrificing return, but that's a call you have to make based on the return you and your investors expect for the perceived risk being taken on any given deal. 

  • Glendale, AZ · Member since 2017 · 1k+ posts · 238 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Kevin Dean:

    Properly underwriting the debt is one of the most important pieces of the puzzle, after all, the lender is usually bringing most of the cash to the deal. 

    It seems like most economists I have listened to and read do not believe that the current global debt load can support a dramatic increase in rates, and for that reason the Fed will not stress the current interest environment much further over the near term. The truth is, anyone who believes they know exactly where interest rates are headed are only fooling themselves. After getting a good feel for the current environment, our job as investors is to develop a business plan accordingly, underwrite conservatively and to protect against the downside. 

    I would first think about your personal comfort with the debt load you put on any given property. There is something to be said for the peace of mind you receive for a lower leveraged deal with plenty of room for error. This is true for both you and your investors if you are planning on raising money. Yes, you will be sacrificing return, but that's a call you have to make based on the return you and your investors expect for the perceived risk being taken on any given deal. 

     good point!

  • Lender · Chicago, IL · Member since 2018 · 352 posts · 147 votes
    7y

    @Mary Jay the consensus is that FEDs might raise the rates 1-2 times next year before it stops. No one can read in the stars, but yes, from what I hear from the financial advisors,  it's expected that the big economies will slow down a bit next year,

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