What would you do? Starting a new career with multifamily in mind

What would you do? Starting a new career with multifamily in mind

Gregory SchwartzBusiness Member
Rental Property Investor · College Station, TX · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes

BP,

A slight twist on the classic question, "should I get licensed?"

In 6 months I will be transitioning out of the military and into civilian life, with no job lined up. I have a very clear 5 year goal but need some help with the next steps. The goal is to use a multifamily value add + buy and hold (basically BRRR) to build a portfolio that provides financial independence (roughly 75k a year) for me and my family.

So what career would you choose if you were just starting out as apartment investor? 

Its worth noting that I have a 6 month financial runway to support my wife and I, and have saved enough for a down payment on a small-ish multifamily. 

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Real Estate Agent · Luray, VA · Member since 2016 · 460 posts · 293 votes
7y

That's a question that only you can really answer. I think your routes could be: real estate agent, property manager, or see if you can get a job with a REIT or other syndication group in order to get the behind the scenes in the business.

I am tagging @Chase McArthur for this thread.  He would be a good person to discuss some options with since he currently works as a commercial real estate broker and is very experienced in analyzing investment properties.  He may have some ideas or potential career paths for you (and anyone else following this thread) to explore.

Best!

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  • Investor · Boston, MA · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    7y

    @Gregory Schwartz Are you looking to stay in ENC or move?

  • Real Estate Agent · Naples, FL · Member since 2016 · 298 posts · 268 votes
    7y

    Getting your license would not be a bad idea. To see if you really enjoy multi family and being a landlord you may want to consider getting a job for a local property manager. A lot more opportunities to make money such as leasing units etc as well as working with different types of investors.

  • Gregory SchwartzBusiness Member
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    Rental Property Investor · College Station, TX · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y

    @Bill F. As much as I love Wilmington and the NC beach life. My wife and I will be moving to New Braunfels, TX. 

    @Frank Procopio what do you feel would provide the best education, property manager or agent?

  • Real Estate Agent · Naples, FL · Member since 2016 · 298 posts · 268 votes
    7y

    I started as a rental agent for an apartment complex shortly out of highschool and worked my way through every phase of real estate. To be honest I received more education being immersed in management. The stuff that transpired on a daily basis cannot be taught in a book. Being an agent however is more lucrative. They go hand in hand so if you enjoy it, you should definitely get your license 

  • Real Estate Agent · Luray, VA · Member since 2016 · 460 posts · 293 votes
    7y

    That's a question that only you can really answer. I think your routes could be: real estate agent, property manager, or see if you can get a job with a REIT or other syndication group in order to get the behind the scenes in the business.

    I am tagging @Chase McArthur for this thread.  He would be a good person to discuss some options with since he currently works as a commercial real estate broker and is very experienced in analyzing investment properties.  He may have some ideas or potential career paths for you (and anyone else following this thread) to explore.

    Best!

  • Rental Property Investor · West Palm Beach, FL · Member since 2017 · 262 posts · 136 votes
    7y

    I agree with everyone that property management would be a good route to go. I have never worked as a manager but I do know that people skills are high on the list of qualifications. If this sounds like you there are a lot of benefits you would gain to help with your aspirations of apartment investing. You will have first hand knowledge of the necessary expenses to run this type of property, the leasing and turn over process as well as marketing. It is no secret that a good property manager is an asset so if you can provide excellent service you will already have apartment building owners looking for you, rather than having to track them down yourself when it becomes time to acquire a property. Ken McElroy started his business this same way. Since you will not need to start making money right away you could look for different management companies and offer to work for free for a month or two, and then they will hopefully offer you a job (it would be wise to work something out with them ahead of time to manage expectations). That being said, if it doesn't sound like a good fit for you there are several other options as noted above.

  • Rental Property Investor · Miami, FL · Member since 2015 · 179 posts · 292 votes
    7y

    So many variables and options. Hard to say without more info on your goals, skills, etc.

    You've received some great advice above.

    My two cents, consider coaching. Being guided by someone that has done and still does what you want to do, at the highest level is a great strategy to shorten the learning curve.

  • Gregory SchwartzBusiness Member
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    Rental Property Investor · College Station, TX · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y

    @Frank Procopio fair point, hands on education vs income. 

    @Chase Louderback thanks for the comment. I'd love to hear from Chase

  • Investor · Boston, MA · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    7y

    @Gregory Schwartz depending on what your MOS and background is you could look into a job at USAA Real Estate on either the debt or equity side as an analyst. 

    The have $20B AUM and would be a much better jumping off point to a MF/CRE investing career than working for a PM or as an agent.

  • Specialist · Washington, DC · Member since 2019 · 177 posts · 150 votes
    7y

    @Gregory Schwartz

    Hey Greg, got the call. So I read over your post and I feel like there are quite a few options you can exercise. Being prior service myself, I feel your struggle. What in the hell does life have in store for me "after"?

    First off, yes, get your license, its a great back pocket accessory that you may or may not use, but will be there if you need it. If commercial real estate is where you ultimately want to be, then jump right in it and associate with a commercial broker after you get your license. There's a common myth that says you have to start in residential and work into commercial...total BS. This will give you the inside track to the industry and will position you to start your empire. 

    Take advantage of the VA loan. Find a quad, buy it, live in one of the units, rent out the other 3. This will be to your advantage in a number of ways. It will get your feet wet in property management, it will support a roof over your head while you pay your dues as a commercial broker, and it will enable you to slowly begin scaling your operations.

    If you haven't already, start looking for quad properties in New Braunfels. You have reserves put aside which is excellent, the VA is no money down, and the income produced by the other 3 units will give you supplemental income while you establish yourself.

    I sent you a connection request. If you have any other questions or want me to expound on things, feel free to message me. I can also give you my cell if you would like to chat. 

    New Braunfels? You wouldn't happen to be a fellow "whiskey" would you? I was stationed at Sam Houston back in 09'-10' and have some awesome memories from Schlitterbahn and Gruene Hall!!

  • Rental Property Investor · Indiana...mostly · Member since 2019 · 468 posts · 245 votes
    7y

    Like everyone, you'll need a place to live.  So, as a couple of other folks have said, I'd look for a small multi or duplex.  House hacking was a good way to start for me.

    Job wise, I would think that anything related to real estate, contracting, hands-on-building, property management, even something like a floor covering installer, all would be helpful in the short run.

  • Gregory SchwartzBusiness Member
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    Rental Property Investor · College Station, TX · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y

    @Bill F. this is why I love BP, I never would have thought about USAA. As a guy with an engineering dgree who's flow helicopters for the last 7 years I'm not sure I'll have the resume but that wont stop me from looking into it and applying. 

    @Chase McArthur I really appreciate the in depth post. I'm glad you mentioned starting as a residential agent then moving into commercial. After reading books like Millionaire Real Estate Agent and Flip I'm not 100% sure the residential side of this industry is for me. I am very analytical feel I'd sell better to clients who have measurable objectives vise "a house with a large kitchen, an open concept and a walk-in closet for the dog".  Unfortunately I didn't get to experience Schlitterbahn or Gruene Hall in my youth, my wife's family is from the general area. I'm a Maryland guy who will have to learn to get in touch with my inner Texan.

    @Scott P. thanks for the comment, I'm a huge fan of house hacking. BP has convinced me that it is the single best technique for growing wealth and starting a rental portfolio simultaneously. 

  • Investor · Front Royal, VA · Member since 2013 · 586 posts · 418 votes
    7y

    @Gregory Schwartz an easy way to get started is on the commercial brokerage side. You might have to start doing leases, but it won't take long to move towards the sales side. Work under the best, get access to costar, start honing your sales skills and relationships and you'll take off. 

    Eventually, you can put commissions into the deals and start passively investing that way. 

  • Member since 2019 · 60 posts · 6 votes
    7y

    It will be great to be involved in Real Estate !

    Get started !

  • Real Estate Investor · York, PA · Member since 2018 · 118 posts · 58 votes
    7y

    @Gregory Schwartz - Congrats on getting out, I just transitioned out myself. If you're very open to all your options, if I was you I would start contacting a lot of the MF investors that have been on the show and see if they want a high caliber barrel chested freedom fighter on their team, maybe you can start as an underwriter for someone while working for low pay but a small equity share in deals. 

  • Gregory SchwartzBusiness Member
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    Rental Property Investor · College Station, TX · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y

    @Hunter Locke that's a damn good idea

  • Real Estate Agent · Augusta, GA · Member since 2017 · 83 posts · 46 votes
    7y

    @Gregory Schwartz There’s a lot of avenues within real estate and even within the multifamily property type. Linking up with a commercial real estate brokerage and working on the management team and as an agent would be a great start. You’ll figure out extremely fast whether you love it or hate it. I specialize in just multifamily sales in GA & SC and the business Is lucrative if you know your product and work the system consistently over time.

  • Rental Property Investor · New Braunfels, TX · Member since 2018 · 141 posts · 103 votes
    7y

    @Gregory Schwartz

    I live in New Braunfels and know some great realtors and property managers. My wife and I own 10 sf and 1 duplex here in town. If you are interested I can get you in contact with some good local people. PM me if you want. Thanks for your service!

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