Investor · New Orleans, LA · Member since 2011 · 16 posts · 1 vote
Hello BP,
I need your advice. I have been calling several banks seeking their bank owned apartment complexes. i have had no success. I am looking for apartment complexes with 50+ units.
Are their any experienced investors that can possibly help me out or give me some advice?
Real Estate Broker · Canton, GA · Member since 2010 · 15k+ posts · 11k+ votes
14y
Are you a cash buyer with funds to close or are you just trying to be a wholesaler with not even a penny to your name??
If a wholesaler you need to forget that route.You will be laughed at by the banks and they will not take you seriously.
With apartments there is performing (90% plus occupancy with paying every month), sub-performing (usually 40 to 75%) is the sweet spot,and then totally vacant.If occupancy is less than 40% it will be really hard to turn around and by then the units have been stripped anyways so you treat as needing complete rehab.
Anything over 90% you can get a regular loan on.Anything under that is hard money or private money.Once turned around you will need to immediately sell after about 6 to 12 months of stable occupancy and payment or refinance to get rid of the high debt service.
Hatfield, PA · Member since 2012 · 1k+ posts · 629 votes
14y
I am sure some of these go into auction or loopnet or even the MLS. Believe it or not, if you go Realtor.com, and choose Multi Family Housing, you may see some of those in your area.
OTOH, I suspect there are far fewer of those (50+ units) than just calling up a bank. Compared to SF, they are not very common, and they are very much in demand.
Real Estate Broker · Canton, GA · Member since 2010 · 15k+ posts · 11k+ votes
14y
Are you a cash buyer with funds to close or are you just trying to be a wholesaler with not even a penny to your name??
If a wholesaler you need to forget that route.You will be laughed at by the banks and they will not take you seriously.
With apartments there is performing (90% plus occupancy with paying every month), sub-performing (usually 40 to 75%) is the sweet spot,and then totally vacant.If occupancy is less than 40% it will be really hard to turn around and by then the units have been stripped anyways so you treat as needing complete rehab.
Anything over 90% you can get a regular loan on.Anything under that is hard money or private money.Once turned around you will need to immediately sell after about 6 to 12 months of stable occupancy and payment or refinance to get rid of the high debt service.
Commercial Loan Officer · Southern Maine, ME · Member since 2009 · 782 posts · 415 votes
14y
What Joel said. These types of properties are hard to source directly from a bank. Either because the asset manager has gate keepers in place to keep the dreamers away (not saying you are) and/or the bank lists the properties with realtors and only accepts offers through them.