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Leland Smith
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Standing/walkout balcony ideas

Leland Smith
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Posted Jan 27 2022, 10:09

I'm struggling with this project to get a finalized design. My original design is shown below with nice large walk out balconies, however my GC never prepped the framing to support such balconies. I'm a year into the project now still with no design. My default was to go down to Juliet balconies but for the upstairs I think it will really detract from the space given it's a small room and the doors dropping off into nothing seem odd to me. I have a truss system and therefore there are no LVL's in place to drill into, but blocking can be added across the trusses. It is bricked on the outside.

I found something like this: https://deciron.com/cubist-sty...

Architectural Rendering:

What I got:

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Pavan Sandhu
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Pavan Sandhu
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Replied Jan 28 2022, 12:46

not bad but not the same. What effect will no balconies have on the project?

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Leland Smith
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Leland Smith
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Replied Jan 28 2022, 17:38

@Pavan Sandhu - Considering they will be a mix of short-term rentals and long-term rentals, I think it would just devalue the upstairs bedroom a bit because it's awkward. Short-term renters wouldn't care so much because there's a huge roof-top deck. In the end, it just becomes an awkward door vs floor to ceiling glass or lots of windows, which I think would be preferable to double doors with Juliet balconies. 

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Peter Tverdov
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Replied Jan 28 2022, 20:21

WTH! Why did he change it like that without saying anything to you? 

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Chad McMahan#1 Tucson Real Estate Forum Contributor
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Replied Jan 29 2022, 07:57
Originally posted by @Leland Smith:

I'm struggling with this project to get a finalized design. My original design is shown below with nice large walk out balconies, however my GC never prepped the framing to support such balconies. I'm a year into the project now still with no design. My default was to go down to Juliet balconies but for the upstairs I think it will really detract from the space given it's a small room and the doors dropping off into nothing seem odd to me. I have a truss system and therefore there are no LVL's in place to drill into, but blocking can be added across the trusses. It is bricked on the outside.

I found something like this: https://deciron.com/cubist-sty...

Architectural Rendering:

What I got:

 Hi Leland.

Pay $300+- and hire a local architect (You may also need a structural engineer- also pretty reasonable) to come out and consult. No need to struggle with this or delay it any longer. Get great on-point advice from a local expert, pretty cheap, considering.

This looks like a fun project that you can transform into something special.

Good luck!

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Leland Smith
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Leland Smith
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Replied Jan 30 2022, 12:42
Originally posted by @Peter Tverdov:

WTH! Why did he change it like that without saying anything to you? 

The GC had a metal worker design some kind of bracket that would pop through the brick to attach C-Channels. However, they never had any engineer or architect spec out a design. So the metal worker refused to install them leaving me with a bunch of brackets I don't know what to do with. Since it was clear this GC was not progressing, I fired them. Now I'm very late in the game and need to decide what's worth waiting to do. 

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Leland Smith
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Leland Smith
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Replied Jan 30 2022, 22:08

@Chad McMahan - I've already dropped $3000 on two engineers just to tell me a lot of nothing... I suppose I need to look for something different.

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Stacey Patten
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Stacey Patten
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Replied Jan 30 2022, 22:39

Another option to consider would be to adding stacked balconies, which are held up by pillars and typically require minimal load implications on the building.  This is likely a more cost effective option anyways.