FLIPPERS - What’s Caught You Off Guard in Your Deals?

FLIPPERS - What’s Caught You Off Guard in Your Deals?

Investor · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2023 · 14 posts · 15 votes

Hey everyone, Sam here. I do flips and multifamily investing in Columbus and LA.

So, here’s something I didn’t know going into my last flip: if you’re dealing with a split-level, appraisers can decide that anything below grade doesn’t count toward the square footage. Ended up getting an offer at asking, but the appraisal came in way lower than I expected. Lesson learned. I still made it work, but man, it was close.

Has anyone else been blindsided by something in a deal like this? I’d love to hear your stories—especially if you’ve had something unexpected happen during an appraisal or inspection.

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Marc RiceBusiness Member
Real Estate Agent · Columbus Cleveland Dayton, OH · Member since 2018 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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Quote from @Sam Shikiar:

@Marc Rice yea I knew that was the case with basements but hadn't heard of this with bi-level. New criteria to add to my buy box lol. 


 1/3 appraisers call it out, usually can get a new one. Although I once had 2 separate back to back ones call it out (I was repping buyer, deal died).

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  • Marc RiceBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Columbus Cleveland Dayton, OH · Member since 2018 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    Quote from @Sam Shikiar:

    Hey everyone, Sam here. I do flips and multifamily investing in Columbus and LA.

    So, here’s something I didn’t know going into my last flip: if you’re dealing with a split-level, appraisers can decide that anything below grade doesn’t count toward the square footage. Ended up getting an offer at asking, but the appraisal came in way lower than I expected. Lesson learned. I still made it work, but man, it was close.

    Has anyone else been blindsided by something in a deal like this? I’d love to hear your stories—especially if you’ve had something unexpected happen during an appraisal or inspection.


     This bi-level case is very common for appraisers. I find some appraisers will add the sqft and some won't. The same thing applies when renovating a basement and adding bedrooms/sqft. 

    Marc Rice | Investor Friendly Agent at Reafco Tailwind Team574 Reviews
    • Investor · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2023 · 14 posts · 15 votes
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      @Marc Rice yea I knew that was the case with basements but hadn't heard of this with bi-level. New criteria to add to my buy box lol. 

    • Marc RiceBusiness Member
      Real Estate Agent · Columbus Cleveland Dayton, OH · Member since 2018 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
      1y
      Quote from @Sam Shikiar:

      @Marc Rice yea I knew that was the case with basements but hadn't heard of this with bi-level. New criteria to add to my buy box lol. 


       1/3 appraisers call it out, usually can get a new one. Although I once had 2 separate back to back ones call it out (I was repping buyer, deal died).

      Marc Rice | Investor Friendly Agent at Reafco Tailwind Team574 Reviews
  • Remington LymanBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Columbus, OH · Member since 2017 · 6k+ posts · 7k+ votes
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    Quote from @Sam Shikiar:

    Hey everyone, Sam here. I do flips and multifamily investing in Columbus and LA.

    So, here’s something I didn’t know going into my last flip: if you’re dealing with a split-level, appraisers can decide that anything below grade doesn’t count toward the square footage. Ended up getting an offer at asking, but the appraisal came in way lower than I expected. Lesson learned. I still made it work, but man, it was close.

    Has anyone else been blindsided by something in a deal like this? I’d love to hear your stories—especially if you’ve had something unexpected happen during an appraisal or inspection.


    I've encountered this before while working with buyers. The rules and regulations regarding appraisals are extensive, and different people interpret them in different ways. If the buyer is still interested, they can petition to get a new appraiser or switch lenders. However, you run the risk of the same thing happening again. 

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