BRRRR investing and upgrade.
New to Real Estate · Mount Vernon, NY · Member since 2020 · 81 posts · 5 votes
Hello everyone i am curious, has anybody bought their first investment property and house Hacking, and later do an innofit upgrade. On their first 2 to 4 unit in the New York area primarily in lower Westchester area and The Bronx. And you're also done a unit, swap with their tenet, or just let the lease run out. And then did the upgrade? I'm thinking about doing that on the first property. when I first start investing.
Brad, house hacking a 2-4 unit and then doing a strategic upgrade is a solid first move — you're essentially getting someone else to help cover the mortgage while you build equity.
On the unit question: it really depends on the lease and your local tenant laws. If the unit is occupied, letting the lease run its course is usually the cleanest path, though some investors negotiate a mutually agreed move-out with proper notice. Doing a 'swap' where you move a tenant to another unit can work, but get it in writing and make sure you're following NY's rules to the letter.
For the upgrade, I'd prioritize whatever increases rent or reduces turnover — kitchens, bathrooms, and deferred maintenance. Just make sure the rehab number still leaves you with reserves. Being cash-strapped in year one isn't fun. What part of the Bronx/Westchester are you targeting?
I haven't looked in a particular area. Just curious.
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This is just a summary of the idea. I was thinking about
Brad, yes, and honestly that's one of the better ways to start. The cleanest version I've seen goes like this.
Buy the 2 to 4 unit, move into the unit that needs the most work, and fix that one up first while you live there. Then as each tenant's lease ends, renovate that unit while it's empty and re-rent it at the new rate. Renovating around someone living in the unit is slower, costs more, and makes for an unhappy tenant.
A unit swap works well if you have a good tenant you want to keep. Finish a unit, offer it to them first at the new rent, then renovate the one they moved out of. They get a nicer place, you skip a vacancy, and nobody gets pushed out.
A few things to sort out before you buy. If you go FHA, you have to move in within 60 days and plan to live there at least a year, and a 203k loan lets you roll some of the renovation into the mortgage. Get copies of the existing leases and look at the end dates, because that's your real renovation schedule. And in the Bronx especially, talk to a local landlord attorney about rent rules and Good Cause Eviction before you plan around a lease running out, since that can change what's allowed.
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This is the summarized version of what I was thinking about.
Brad, the thing I'd worry about with upgrading a unit at a time is finding out mid-project that the building needs work you didn't plan for, and then you're paying for it with a unit sitting empty.
- Before you buy, look hard at the shared systems: roof, boiler or furnace, water heater, electrical service, and the main sewer line. Those cost the same whether you upgrade one unit or four, so you want to know their age first.
- Waiting for leases to run out is usually simpler than swapping units with a tenant. A swap means moving people twice and can create problems if the move doesn't go smoothly.
- Write the scope for the first unit you redo in detail and keep track of what it really cost and how long it took. That becomes your budget for the next units.
- In older buildings in that area, opening walls often turns up old wiring or plumbing. Keep a contingency for that in every unit.
- Check what needs a permit in Mount Vernon or the Bronx before you plan the work. Kitchens, bathrooms, and electrical often do, and that affects your timeline.
Kyle
And that's why I was thinking on the more of the lines of a complete gut job. So you can see everything. Unless the property already has been renovated in the last 5 to 10 years. Then, nothing needs to be done.
Brad, let's connect. Living in one unit and upgrading the others as leases turn over is a common plan for a first 2 to 4 unit.
Swapping units with a tenant or waiting out the lease is really about how much disruption you can live with and how long you can wait on the money. New York's tenant rules can be strict, so it's worth knowing them before counting on a lease ending.
And if more people in your corner would help, I've got some good ones. Have you started looking at buildings yet?
Just sent you a DM.
Having started looking because my current job sucks. First, I'm thinking about getting a CDL driving job first.
Brad, the house hack first, upgrade later plan is a good one for a 2-4 unit in your area. The thing to plan early is financing: owner-occupied financing on a 2-4 unit usually carries a low down payment, but the lender will want to see you intend to live there, and renovation money is easier to line up before you close than after. Run the numbers with a realistic rehab budget and reserves so the upgrade doesn't squeeze you in year one. I do lending and have a local construction and property management team, so I'm happy to walk through how the loan and the upgrade budget fit together on a quick call, my direct line and email are on my profile. (Drafted with AI assistance.)