I want to buy your dump, i mean apartment.

I want to buy your dump, i mean apartment.

Missoula, MT · Member since 2016 · 163 posts · 55 votes

So here is whats going on. There is an apartment complex in Missoula MT with about 30 or so units with a mix of 1 and 2 bed rooms in a great location. I called management to ask if there were any available units to rent. To no surprise there was an active waiting list from dozens of other people which spanned back 9 months. 

Im not seriously considering purchasing this property but it got me thinking.

The apartment it self is run down, beat up, and outdated. It smells like cat urine and its an eye sore compared to the surrounding buildings. The owner(s) dont have the property listed for sale and why should they? Its fully occupied with a 9 month waiting list of eager tenants just ready to jump at the next empty unit. 

If I was going to offer to buy this apartment from owners that have no interest in selling it, how would I or someone else do so? Its not like it can just call up and say "hey your sitting on a diamond incrusted gold mine. Let me buy it from you for the price that it looks and smells like then rehab it and make a huge profit renting it out".

How do you offer to buy a rental property thats run down and not for sale without sounding like a jerk? Not that im trying to be a jerk but the place has huge potential that the current owner is not capatalizing on. 

Unrelated: if there are any construction companies out there reading this. Missoula MT NEEDS affordable apartment accomodations. The student population here is starving to find a place and end up having to rent entire homes because of the lack of apartment units available. You would make a killing building a new apartment complex here. There was actually a front page article in the local news paper a fewish days ago talking about how bad of a shortage there is for apartments here.

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China, ME · Member since 2014 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes
9y

@Vinay H. Don't give up on MA so quickly!  There are still opportunities on the south shore and south coast!

Though I about had a heart attack when I saw a 3-plex hit the market in Brighton at $2.5M a few days ago.

Maybe you're right about Boston after all...

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  • Cambridge, MA · Member since 2017 · 268 posts · 247 votes
    9y
    I am coming to Montana lol. The market in Boston is just out if this world.
  • Real Estate Investor · Austin, TX · Member since 2015 · 219 posts · 234 votes
    9y


    "If I was going to offer to buy this apartment from owners that have no interest in selling it, how would I or someone else do so?"

    Off-market deals like this happen more than you might think.

    It's pretty simple to call or write the owners and say "I'd like to buy your complex for X". An agent might help you do this.

    They can say yes or no. If they say no, then you repeat the process with all the other run-down dumps in town. Who knows, maybe they'll change their mind and you will be the first person they think of contacting. 

  • China, ME · Member since 2014 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    9y

    @Vinay H. Don't give up on MA so quickly!  There are still opportunities on the south shore and south coast!

    Though I about had a heart attack when I saw a 3-plex hit the market in Brighton at $2.5M a few days ago.

    Maybe you're right about Boston after all...

  • Specialist · Bozeman, MT · Member since 2016 · 237 posts · 153 votes
    9y

    Bozeman over here, with a question about how the Missoula rental market has been affected by the decrease in enrollment at UofM? My wife and I are always looking over there for property, so I would love any feedback you have on where you see Missoula's rental market headed.

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    Developer · Missoula, MT · Member since 2016 · 46 posts · 29 votes
    9y
    From what we have researched, with all new apartment buildings currently permitted here in Missoula, we will have an oversupply by 400 units of two bed one bath apartments by this time next year. Unless, of course, we see a dramatic increase in population growth. I think, as with most of the west, now is the time to get creative. I am currently developing an infill lot with 2single family and a duplex. Not worried about renting duplex as it is modern design and with a yard for pets.
  • Cambridge, MA · Member since 2017 · 268 posts · 247 votes
    9y
    Don't give up on MA so quickly! There are still opportunities on the south shore and south coast!





    If I have to go South to invest, I think I am gonna keep going until I hit North Carolina :)
  • Missoula, MT · Member since 2016 · 163 posts · 55 votes
    9y

    Not to be a nay sayer Ryan but being a student myself i had an incredibly difficult time finding a suitable apartment. 

    I know there is new construction happening but its condos and commercial property that is being built. 

    Ill have to post a link to that missoulian newspaper article that came out on the 20th that was talking about it. Im specifically talking about affordable rentals. Choices when i moved back here were either luxury apartments or the old run down places. 

    While i could have saved some money renting a run down unit i would kind of like to live some where that i look forward to going home to.

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