Property Manager · Greater New Haven, CT · Member since 2010 · 377 posts · 434 votes
I've been chasing deals on single family houses for rehab/rent/hold for a long time and probably to no one's surprise on this forum; the numbers rarely work.
Usually the semi-affordable houses with upside potential are so distressed that after adding the purchase price, transaction costs and rehab costs (even with a fair amount of sweat)that it would never provide a good ROI on either renting or selling.
I try to get sellers agents & banks to see that their asking price doesn't work but they don't seem to care.
I've been successful on too few deals and find myself getting impatient at times but not impatient enough to knowingly put myself underwater on a project. I can't say that this true of others in my market as there seems to be a lot of 'stupid cash' chasing bad deals.
If it makes you feel better, they rarely work out any where. It takes like 25 leads to find one that works, and a boatload of marketing to find those 25 leads.
I try to get sellers agents & banks to see that their asking price
This makes me think you're going after MLS properties. Not impossible, but I think these are extra hard because the good deals are snatched up before they even get to the MLS. And the houses that are on the MLS are picked over by everybody and their cousin. You should have more luck going after the ones that have been listed for a while and have seen several price drops already.
Have you tried other marketing? Eg, foreclosure lists, probates, out-of-state owners, eviction court, etc?
Even better, spread you contact info to wholesalers far and wide. Let them do the work for you and earn that wholesaling fee. Just be sure to run your own numbers and don't use theirs.
but not impatient enough to knowingly put myself underwater on a project
I admire your self-control. I know I just want to pull that trigger and do something, anything, and try to make the numbers work when they won't.
Yes I have been chasing MLS (Mostly Lousy Stuff) and find that I can sometimes get lucky on the ones that have been listed for a long time or on deals that fall apart because of financing. You are correct the new listings are very picked over.
I also troll and advertise on Craigslist but that has worked better for finding tenants than finding properties.
I do need to expand my marketing and will. I have many contacts who don't know that I do this as they just view me as my 'day job' role which is a college professor.