Becoming a Private lender

Becoming a Private lender

Wichita, KS · Member since 2016 · 8 posts · 6 votes

I have just decided to get into real estate investing .

I am a retired engineer, 37 years at Boeing. I thought that acting as a private lender would be a good place to start. I have high six figures in saving currently invested in a 401-K that I can tap into to lend. I also own my own home free and clear that I thought I could get a HELOC on for use in private lending.

My plan is to set up an S-corp, create a solo 401-K and transfer my 401-K money into that. I have already met 2 potential investors that could be future clients, but have not vetted them yet. One, I think is pretty new to the industry and is a part of Fortune Builders (Than Merrill). The second is a guy, I just met at the gym who has been doing it for 15 years. We are planning to get together for lunch next week.

Do you have any comments about my beginnings of a plan? Is an S-corp the right way to go? Or would an LLC be better? Are there any other important first steps that I am missing? What is you personal opinion of Than Merrill's Fortune Builders? Is it reasonable to trust that people in that system know what they are doing at least to some degree? I plan to bring a list of questions to the lunch next week. What questions you ask a prospective REI when considering a new client?

Thanks for any help or advice you are willing to provide.

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Lender · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2009 · 1k+ posts · 2k+ votes
10y

We do almost exactly what you are asking about, @Neil Andrews. Below is a top-level, actionable explanation of our process, from a post I made here several years ago. With minor modification, it's still 95% accurate and should work well for you, as it still does for us.

[Note: In CA we use mortgage brokers, escrow, and title companies. I suspect in KS you use closing attorneys and title (?). For the purposes of what I wrote below, you should be able to make the adjustment so long as you understand the process.]

1) You’ll need to spend some time with a good lending attorney. This is not the same as a real estate lawyer. Attend some real estate clubs. Meet and call some hard money lenders in your area and ask them if they sell their notes and need investors or if they run a mortgage pool. (As an aside, investing with a local HML in local loans is another way to get into the business.) Also ask which attorney they use. Lending attorneys are a rare breed and you’ll likely only hear the same few names. Pick one and spend an hour or two with him or her.

Lending attorneys sell their paperwork to HML's. You could wait on this until you do a few deals and instead use those from a broker or HML at first. Never find your loan documents online or obtain them from a borrower.

2) Ask some of your potential borrowers for a broker recommendation. Take him or her to lunch and get to know each other a bit. Never do business with anyone you don’t know, like, and trust. Negotiate a flat dollar amount per loan they originate for you. Don’t pay a percent of the loan amount. Your borrowers will pay this anyway so you’re really negotiating on their behalf.

3) Go to some real estate clubs and let people know you have money to lend. In general you can't advertise at all. Nada. Not even on a business card or website. State specific, but your lawyer might tell you that (ours did). Everyone will want to know your terms. Set one interest rate and point amount. Don't get into making deals up or negotiating on the fly. They'll also want to know the note duration, what happens if they need an extension, amount you'll lend, location, LTV, and a handful of other questions you'll eventually have to develop answers to.

Don’t loan far from home because you’ll want to drive and see every property you loan on. (The easiest way to lose money as an inexperienced lender is to respond to solicitations here, lending out-of-state, to those you don't know, against homes you've never seen, in areas you don't know, and where you don't know the state law. People actually do this!!)

For LTV, we loan on a percent of the purchase price, not ARV. Purchase price is an easy number to establish and our percent is very high. The higher the percent, the more popular you will be so long as you only loan on good deals and follow any state laws restricting high LTV loans, as applicable. Your biggest challenge will be to learn how to evaluate the numbers behind a flip and ensure it's a good deal for both your borrower and you.

4) MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL: Only loan to those with experience and who do this full time. No newbies, hobbyists, first timers, or anyone learning on your dime. Before you lend to anyone, spend some time driving around with them looking at their properties. Go to lunch or dinner a few times. The idea is to get to know, like, and trust them and vice versa. If you don’t, then don’t loan. See a theme here?

5) Soon thereafter, they will call you with a property they have under contract that fits the criteria you defined for them. Tell them honestly if you don’t have the money to lend at this time or if it doesn’t meet your criteria (which they should already know because you previously discussed this with them over lunch). Never agree to fund a deal if you don’t have the cash in the bank. Never rely on one deal closing on time to fund another. Ever. The cash must be in the bank.

Meet your borrower as soon as possible at the property but no later than 24 hours from the phone call. Bring comps with you and ask them to bring theirs. As a lender you don't have to hit the ARV exactly, but you should generally agree with their estimate. Ditto rehab costs, which you can generally estimate with a walk-thru after you've done this for a while. No need for appraisals or contractor bids, unless required by law. That only holds things up (and I personally find them worthless). You should disclose in writing how and why you agree with their ARV & rehab estimate. SECOND MOST IMPORTANT: Make sure you understand the property enough that you're confident it would sell to another flipper if the deal goes bad.

Confirm the amount you’ll loan and shake your borrowers hand at the site.

6) Call your broker and put him in touch with your borrower. You don’t care about most of the paperwork except the Note, Deed of Trust, the sales contract, preliminary title report, hazard insurance, and lender instructions to escrow. I know that still seems like a lot.

We go so far as to fill out our note & deed-of-trust for our broker, which we obtained from our lending attorney. Read and understand everything – at least at first. Your broker (who is very experienced at this, yes?) should be able to explain it all. If not, call your lawyer, but don’t obsess.

Adding, to avoid TILA, RESPA, SAFE Act, Dodd-Frank, etc., etc., this must be a business purpose loan (and that does not mean non-owner occupied). To establish this, you should obtain and evaluate, at the time of application, a handwritten statement from your borrower describing the purpose of the loan proceeds. It's easy, but you might need your lending lawyer to initially help set your parameters.

7) I don't know how it works in Kansas. In CA, your broker will work with your borrower, escrow, and title. There's really little for you to do except review the documents for completeness and wire money (or have your SD-IRA custodian do that once you've rolled your 401k over -- probably what you want).

8) You chose professionals so let them do what they do well and rehab the property without your help. Visit maybe once and take them to lunch or dinner. Attend the open house. Maybe look at more deals with them.

9) When the property is about to sell, you will receive an email from escrow asking for a payoff amount (called a “demand”). Calculate the amount owed and document it in a demand letter. Be clear and show all work. Your borrower will authorize this and should understand your numbers. So should title, because they will be wiring the money into your account.

10) When the money hits your account check the amount. You can now commit it again. Not sooner.

I left out many steps, and I'm certain others here might be horrified, but this process works for us and is completely legal (at least in CA). Always put yourself in your borrowers shoes. They appreciate extreme speed, fairness, and someone who is easy to deal with. They also work their asses off and earn a lot of my respect. Keep it mutual. Good luck.

Jeff

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  • James MasottiPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Washington Township, NJ · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 976 votes
    10y

    @Neil Andrews - I can't answer your question regarding Fortune Builders...but what I'd say is never assume anyone starting out knows what they're doing. All the book knowledge in the world doesn't prepare you perfectly for what you'll encounter when investing. The more you are here on BP the more you'll read that the experienced investors will tout doing your due diligence, but not becoming susceptible to analysis paralysis. If you're investing with someone who is new...expect them to make mistakes. To me it has to be about how much can you trust the person to make good on their loan in the event something screwy goes wrong. 

    As far as getting things set up to start lending your money...I'd shop around locally for a real estate attorney who understands what you're trying to set up and accomplish to advise on the best structure to protect your investment. I would also recommend finding a great CPA to ensure you're not in violation of any of the crazy laws regarding self dealing and things like that which come with investing through a Solo 401k or SDIRA. 

    Lastly search the forums here on BP there are a lot of people who know this area very well and many articles written about it. A few news I'll through out to chase down are Dmitriy Fominchenko, Brian Eastman, and Mark Nolan. I've never used any of them...but all are active on the forums and have a great deal of knowledge on this space.

    Information about SDIRA investing on BP can be found here

    Best of luck to you!

  • Developer · Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2015 · 2k+ posts · 904 votes
    10y
    Neil Andrews , in order to setup a solo 401k, you need to be self employed and be the only employee (besides spouse with certain restrictions). Once you have a solo 401k, you don't need a company to make the loan through, your solo 401k can lend directly. You can do something similar with a self directed IRA via a custodian (or LLC with checkbook control). For some reason, the @ naming is not working well on my iPad so can't call out some people to help but so a search on BP and you will see some experts.
  • Justin WindhamPro Member
    Banker · Nationwide · Member since 2015 · 4k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    10y

    @Neil Andrews

    Both @James Masotti and @Percy N. gave some good advice. I'd recommend speaking to a CPA or tax attorney regarding what structure would be best for your business. Although many have a preferred business formation type, the best one for you depends on a few specific factors, one of which is the expected income in the business.

    It sounds as though you may be able to invest both personal and retirement funds. Be sure to keep each completely separate. For instance, if you tap into your home equity to begin funding loans, you personally will be the lender (or your LLC or S-Corp should you choose to create and fund one of those business structures). If you tap your 401k to transfer assets to a self-directed IRA or 401k, your retirement account will be doing the lending and receive certain tax benefits on the profits. If you are considering the Solo 401k, be sure you establish eligibility via self-employment activity before setting up the plan. The investments of your 401k would not qualify as self-employment activity. Some people get that confused. Keeping retirement and non-retirement investments separate will help avoid such confusion as well as issues with the prohibited transaction rules.

    Welcome to Bigger Pockets!

  • Real Estate Broker · Naples, FL · Member since 2013 · 9k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    10y

    I cannot and will not advise on setting up your plan. You need to talk to a CPA and someone familiar with that. As to private lending, that is a great way to make passive income. I started in 2012 and it has been a great experience BUT there have been some bumps along the way. Regardless of their collateral, some will default. I had one default on a 50% LTV condo. He got that money to do a flip. It went horribly wrong for him. He lost about 50K and of course defaulted on the loan. Months later, with him paying both HIS attorney fees and MY attorney fees I finally got made whole. Real PITA. Jay Hinrichs made some great points about his 3 C's of lending:
    1. character of the borrower
    2. capacity of the borrower to repay
    3. collateral
    If you have any questions feel free to PM me. Also, read your state statutes to make sure you can stay in compliance and BEWARE Dodd-Frank. Good luck.

  • Rental Property Investor · Lindon, UT · Member since 2015 · 862 posts · 438 votes
    10y

    @Neil Andrews

    You can either become a hard money lender yourself, which requires starting a company, website creation, legal assistance, program creation all to find yourself marketing a product that you have possibly little experience in, and potentially losing money for awhile . . . OR . . . you can work with a hard money lender that has been through all of that, knows what they are doing, and could use your funds to reimburse their loan money disbursed, and see if they will part with their performing mortgage notes. It allows you to BE THE BANK without actually buying the bank! Thanks!

  • Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
    Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
    10y

    the entity set up is the easy part.. good CPA that deals with retirement accounts can help you.

    also the 3 that were mentioned above are experts at setting up solo 401ks  thats not a problem you just have to spend a few bucks and get them set up.

    Next you need to under stand the laws of your state..  most likely you can make commerical purpose loans with your own money with out a license.. what you cannot do is any type of owner occ loan.

    I disagree with you needing to start a company and webstie and all of that.. you will find all the borrowers you need at the REIA meetings...

    no amount of training can suppliment actual experince.. most folks looking to borrow from someone like you ( private lender) is looking for cheaper money that the local HML charges.. so do some rate shopping and see what your local HML are charging.. in some states its not legal to take points on the loans only the interest.. again check the laws either read your state statues or talk with a good attorney..

    there is a lot that can go wrong with rehab loans and you as the lender are the one that will be taking most of the risk.  CASH into the deal from the borrower mitigates this a lot.. Along with quality assets in the first place.

    so for instance the two folks you talk about one a grad of FB how many deals have they done can they prove it.. IE spread sheet with address you check title to make sure they acutally owned them. compare huds... ask for buy hud and sell hud along with their scope of work.. this can give you an idea and of course run back ground credit and if you want ask to see their tax returns.. to make sure they are actaully making money.... this is all things that HML do these days... as well.

    One thing you may want to do is talk with your local HML and see if they will broker deals for you.. this can be a good way to start you can shawdow them until your comfortable doing it yourself.

  • Real Estate Investor · Orlando, FL · Member since 2016 · 50 posts · 21 votes
    10y

    @Neil Andrews, are you only funding locally? Depending on the cost of money, we may have seasoned franchisees who need capital.

  • Wichita, KS · Member since 2016 · 8 posts · 6 votes
    10y

    Thank you everyone for your replies. They have been very helpful. In answer to John Chin, I plan to stick to local projects for now. It sounds like there will be no shortage of opportunities in doing so.

    Finding the right CPA and/or Attorney who knows Kansas Real Estate law needs to be near the top of my to do list.

  • Lender · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2009 · 1k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    10y

    We do almost exactly what you are asking about, @Neil Andrews. Below is a top-level, actionable explanation of our process, from a post I made here several years ago. With minor modification, it's still 95% accurate and should work well for you, as it still does for us.

    [Note: In CA we use mortgage brokers, escrow, and title companies. I suspect in KS you use closing attorneys and title (?). For the purposes of what I wrote below, you should be able to make the adjustment so long as you understand the process.]

    1) You’ll need to spend some time with a good lending attorney. This is not the same as a real estate lawyer. Attend some real estate clubs. Meet and call some hard money lenders in your area and ask them if they sell their notes and need investors or if they run a mortgage pool. (As an aside, investing with a local HML in local loans is another way to get into the business.) Also ask which attorney they use. Lending attorneys are a rare breed and you’ll likely only hear the same few names. Pick one and spend an hour or two with him or her.

    Lending attorneys sell their paperwork to HML's. You could wait on this until you do a few deals and instead use those from a broker or HML at first. Never find your loan documents online or obtain them from a borrower.

    2) Ask some of your potential borrowers for a broker recommendation. Take him or her to lunch and get to know each other a bit. Never do business with anyone you don’t know, like, and trust. Negotiate a flat dollar amount per loan they originate for you. Don’t pay a percent of the loan amount. Your borrowers will pay this anyway so you’re really negotiating on their behalf.

    3) Go to some real estate clubs and let people know you have money to lend. In general you can't advertise at all. Nada. Not even on a business card or website. State specific, but your lawyer might tell you that (ours did). Everyone will want to know your terms. Set one interest rate and point amount. Don't get into making deals up or negotiating on the fly. They'll also want to know the note duration, what happens if they need an extension, amount you'll lend, location, LTV, and a handful of other questions you'll eventually have to develop answers to.

    Don’t loan far from home because you’ll want to drive and see every property you loan on. (The easiest way to lose money as an inexperienced lender is to respond to solicitations here, lending out-of-state, to those you don't know, against homes you've never seen, in areas you don't know, and where you don't know the state law. People actually do this!!)

    For LTV, we loan on a percent of the purchase price, not ARV. Purchase price is an easy number to establish and our percent is very high. The higher the percent, the more popular you will be so long as you only loan on good deals and follow any state laws restricting high LTV loans, as applicable. Your biggest challenge will be to learn how to evaluate the numbers behind a flip and ensure it's a good deal for both your borrower and you.

    4) MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL: Only loan to those with experience and who do this full time. No newbies, hobbyists, first timers, or anyone learning on your dime. Before you lend to anyone, spend some time driving around with them looking at their properties. Go to lunch or dinner a few times. The idea is to get to know, like, and trust them and vice versa. If you don’t, then don’t loan. See a theme here?

    5) Soon thereafter, they will call you with a property they have under contract that fits the criteria you defined for them. Tell them honestly if you don’t have the money to lend at this time or if it doesn’t meet your criteria (which they should already know because you previously discussed this with them over lunch). Never agree to fund a deal if you don’t have the cash in the bank. Never rely on one deal closing on time to fund another. Ever. The cash must be in the bank.

    Meet your borrower as soon as possible at the property but no later than 24 hours from the phone call. Bring comps with you and ask them to bring theirs. As a lender you don't have to hit the ARV exactly, but you should generally agree with their estimate. Ditto rehab costs, which you can generally estimate with a walk-thru after you've done this for a while. No need for appraisals or contractor bids, unless required by law. That only holds things up (and I personally find them worthless). You should disclose in writing how and why you agree with their ARV & rehab estimate. SECOND MOST IMPORTANT: Make sure you understand the property enough that you're confident it would sell to another flipper if the deal goes bad.

    Confirm the amount you’ll loan and shake your borrowers hand at the site.

    6) Call your broker and put him in touch with your borrower. You don’t care about most of the paperwork except the Note, Deed of Trust, the sales contract, preliminary title report, hazard insurance, and lender instructions to escrow. I know that still seems like a lot.

    We go so far as to fill out our note & deed-of-trust for our broker, which we obtained from our lending attorney. Read and understand everything – at least at first. Your broker (who is very experienced at this, yes?) should be able to explain it all. If not, call your lawyer, but don’t obsess.

    Adding, to avoid TILA, RESPA, SAFE Act, Dodd-Frank, etc., etc., this must be a business purpose loan (and that does not mean non-owner occupied). To establish this, you should obtain and evaluate, at the time of application, a handwritten statement from your borrower describing the purpose of the loan proceeds. It's easy, but you might need your lending lawyer to initially help set your parameters.

    7) I don't know how it works in Kansas. In CA, your broker will work with your borrower, escrow, and title. There's really little for you to do except review the documents for completeness and wire money (or have your SD-IRA custodian do that once you've rolled your 401k over -- probably what you want).

    8) You chose professionals so let them do what they do well and rehab the property without your help. Visit maybe once and take them to lunch or dinner. Attend the open house. Maybe look at more deals with them.

    9) When the property is about to sell, you will receive an email from escrow asking for a payoff amount (called a “demand”). Calculate the amount owed and document it in a demand letter. Be clear and show all work. Your borrower will authorize this and should understand your numbers. So should title, because they will be wiring the money into your account.

    10) When the money hits your account check the amount. You can now commit it again. Not sooner.

    I left out many steps, and I'm certain others here might be horrified, but this process works for us and is completely legal (at least in CA). Always put yourself in your borrowers shoes. They appreciate extreme speed, fairness, and someone who is easy to deal with. They also work their asses off and earn a lot of my respect. Keep it mutual. Good luck.

    Jeff

  • Lender · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2009 · 1k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    10y

    I'll add as well, that there is nothing magical about anyone in Fortune Builders, @Neil Andrews. There is a local real estate club around here we used to go to that attracted a lot of them, so we knew many. Most who attended had no experience, no special knowledge, and had never done a deal. That alone disqualified them in our book; not because of the organization.

    You'll see many posts here from newbies asking how to approach a private lender. These range from where do I meet them to what should my presentation look like. Since you posted that you have money to lend and also have no experience, in addition to the solicitations you received here already, I imagine others probably PM'd you too.

    No mater how convincing, I strongly suggest you set your criteria and stick with it, only loaning locally to experienced rehabbers you've met eyeball-to-eyeball. There's nothing wrong if they happen to be from Fortune Builders or any other organization, so long as they have a proven rehabbing background and do this full-time.

  • Wichita, KS · Member since 2016 · 8 posts · 6 votes
    10y

    I met with a the REI for lunch today. We had a good 2 hour discussion. I left a good impression on me. He gave me copies of his standard private lending agreement, mortgage contract, and details on 2 of the deals he has done . He currently has 3 deals in the works, 2 flips, and one he plans to hold as a rental. He gave me the names of his CPA and 2 real estate attorneys he uses and the name of another person he has mentored. He had another business venture (streaming High school sports on the internet) with 2 partners several years ago where one of the partners (the software writer) did not hold up his end of the bargain and they had to file for bankruptcy. They had a buyer of the business, but the buyer wanted to cut out the software guy from the business and keep the other two on as consultants. The software guy refused the deal, so everyone lost out.

    He told me that in the state of Kansas, you cannot lend private money or solicit for private money to strangers. There must be an on-going relationship between the two people before any deals can be struck. He said that, at a minimum, you have to have met together 3 times a month to establish a relationship before any specific money lending discussions can even take place.

    He has a partner who is a cardiologist that provides some capitol and advice. But the guy I talked with does the rest of the work for the mot part. He is not a full time REI yet. His goal is to be full time by next spring. His other job is selling medical equipment. He recently changed jobs to a different company that pays less, but also requires less time, leaving him more time for the real estate business. He has been doing entrepreneurial projects since he was a kid, first lawn mowing, then started raising hogs when he was 14.

  • Rental Property Investor · Seattle, WA · Member since 2014 · 215 posts · 77 votes
    10y

    @Neil Andrews have you considered investing in notes vs originating them? If all this feedback seems like more work than its worth, it might be. Are you looking to retire, or start a new career? There are lots of note buyers, hard money lenders, etc that could help you out if all you are looking to do is build a passive income stream and grow your retirement with double digit returns. I know of a few note funds, and if you want to take the passive route would be happy to chat in more detail.

  • Wichita, KS · Member since 2016 · 8 posts · 6 votes
    10y

    Kevin Moen, 

    I looked at your profile and your website. Investing in notes is something I may be interested in. It seems similar, in some ways, to a REIT, only that a note is tied to a single property. What is the advantage of a note over a REIT?

  • Rental Property Investor · San Francisco Bay Area · Member since 2018 · 87 posts · 87 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Darren Eady:

    @Neil Andrews

    You can either become a hard money lender yourself, which requires starting a company, website creation, legal assistance, program creation all to find yourself marketing a product that you have possibly little experience in, and potentially losing money for awhile . . . OR . . . you can work with a hard money lender that has been through all of that, knows what they are doing, and could use your funds to reimburse their loan money disbursed, and see if they will part with their performing mortgage notes. It allows you to BE THE BANK without actually buying the bank! Thanks!

    Are there some companies that you'd recommend to invest through? i.e.companies who take funds from outside investors and put it to use

  • Real Estate Consultant · Evergreen, CO · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 735 votes
    7y

    @Neil Andrews I sent you a message. There are a lot of different ways to do this. There are lenders you can place money with and they will vet the borrower, arrange title and escrow, coordinate the appraisals etc. Some even have alliances with a servicing company that can send you a payment every month or a portion of the interest while putting principal back to use.

    You could as you said start your own company. You will also need to have the appropriate contracts and paperwork, attorneys etc. I would recommend a servicing company. 

    many many ways to do this.

  • Attorney · Sacramento, CA · Member since 2014 · 300 posts · 172 votes
    7y

    I wonder if Neil ever made the leap...

  • Rental Property Investor · Member since 2018 · 30 posts · 3 votes
    7y

    @Embert Madison jr  That's a great question.

  • Wichita, KS · Member since 2016 · 8 posts · 6 votes
    7y

    I appreciate all the replies to my original question. I have been doing some hard money lending with just the one guy that I met at the gym. I decided to keep things simple and just use a HELOC as my source money. That way, I don't have to deal with a solo IRA. I just kept that money with an on-line broker and use it to invest in stocks. Using the HELOC has worked well. I have done about 7 deals with him so far, counting one that should finish up within the next few weeks. I borrow from my HELOC only when needed at the current rate of 6% (when I first started the rate was 3.75%) and loan it to the borrower at 12%. He pays me interest only until the deal in done, then pays off the loan in a lump sum. I use his interest payments to pay down my loan immediately as much as possible so I effectively get better than 6% return on the bank's money.

    I always look at the property and make sure I am comfortable with the price and estimated rehab costs before agreeing to make the loan. There was one that I did not go in on because of a major basement wall repair that was needed and thought that their estimate for repair was too low.

    I recently inherited some additional money and plan to use some of that to increase the amount available for me to loan. The nice thing about that is, if I can keep it invested, I will make the full 12% on that part of the loan.

    The REI that I am working with gave up his medical sales job a year and a half ago and is doing his real estate business full time and doing well.

  • Justin WindhamPro Member
    Banker · Nationwide · Member since 2015 · 4k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y

    @Neil Andrews

    Glad things are working out for you and the REI. If the funds that you lend out are performing better than your stock investments, I wonder if it would be wise to consider a self-directed account for that activity. It might be a good way to shelter the income from taxation while improving the returns you get within your retirement account.

  • Wichita, KS · Member since 2016 · 8 posts · 6 votes
    7y

    @Justin Windham

    Most of my savings are in an IRA and so are already tax deferred. But I did just inherit some money and plan to use that in a hard money lending capacity. But since I am earning interest on money I am loaning out, I'm don't see how that I can do that and shelter the interest payments received from taxation.

  • Justin WindhamPro Member
    Banker · Nationwide · Member since 2015 · 4k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y

    @Neil Andrews

    If you used a self-directed IRA or Solo 401k to lend the money out, the earnings would be sheltered from taxation.

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