2 years' self-employment for portfolio loans?

2 years' self-employment for portfolio loans?

Portland, ME · Member since 2012 · 616 posts · 550 votes

I was told that for mortgage lending two years of profitable self-employment is required even for portfolio loans per federal law. I thought that banks had more leeway with portfolio loans? Is this true or was she just trying to get rid of me? This is in Maine.

The mortgage would be on a single family rental property that I paid cash for last year. I put about $60K into it and have it rented for $800 per month. A government program put $10k into it. It's now worth about $80k. I wanted to cash out refinance for an infinite cash-on-cash return and use that to purchase more real estate.

My husband left his job last July to go into business for himself. It's in the same industry and he's doing really well and has several contracts, but we don't have 2 years' tax returns for this business. I thought this might be a problem, so I hurried up and refinanced our apartment buildings and purchased two more last year. It's easier for us to get a commercial loan than a residential loan!

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J ScottPro Member
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Investor · Sarasota, FL · Member since 2008 · 18k+ posts · 17k+ votes
12y

I got plenty of portfolio loans long before I had two years of self-employment income. Perhaps the laws have changed since 2010, but I doubt it...

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  • J ScottPro Member
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    Investor · Sarasota, FL · Member since 2008 · 18k+ posts · 17k+ votes
    12y

    I got plenty of portfolio loans long before I had two years of self-employment income. Perhaps the laws have changed since 2010, but I doubt it...

  • Rental Property Investor · Burnaby, British Columbia · Member since 2013 · 23 posts · 3 votes
    12y

    J, where did you find your portfolio lenders in Atlanta? I'm stuck in a situation where I can't get conventional financing because I'm foreign but have a cashflowing fourplex that I purchased with all cash and I'm wondering what a portfolio lender would look for in order to underwrite a loan.

  • Residential Real Estate Agent · Cookeville, TN · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 948 votes
    12y

    @Amy A. - Shop around. I've found that some banks are more aggressive than others. And even with only one bank, they change their policies and aggressiveness from time to time.

  • J ScottPro Member
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    Investor · Sarasota, FL · Member since 2008 · 18k+ posts · 17k+ votes
    12y
    Originally posted by @Account Closed:
    J, where did you find your portfolio lenders in Atlanta?

    Try Quantum National Bank in Suwanee. They don't do flip loans anymore, but they're still doing loans on buy-and-hold properties.

  • Rental Property Investor · Burnaby, British Columbia · Member since 2013 · 23 posts · 3 votes
    12y
    Originally posted by @J Scott:
    Originally posted by @Account Closed:
    J, where did you find your portfolio lenders in Atlanta?

    Try Quantum National Bank in Suwanee. They don't do flip loans anymore, but they're still doing loans on buy-and-hold properties.

    Okay, Thanks a lot J! My family and I have a lot of equity just stuck in properties that are cashflowing already but no US bank will offer us a loan to pull it out!

  • Houston, TX · Member since 2011 · 673 posts · 360 votes
    12y

    You need to approach smaller regional banks. We had no problem getting a LOC and portfolio loans on renal props long before the 2 year rule.

  • Developer · Decatur, GA · Member since 2011 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    12y

    @Account Closed The best bank for you is one focused on the area of your quadplex. The smaller/regional banks have a footprint far smaller than metro Atlanta. Also, the newer ones which didn't have large loan portfolios going into the crash are aggressively lending.

  • Rental Property Investor · Burnaby, British Columbia · Member since 2013 · 23 posts · 3 votes
    12y

    Got it, thanks a lot Rick! The regional/local banks I've talked to in the past refused to work with foreign owners, but I'll keep hunting.

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