Alternate means to finance an investment property

Alternate means to finance an investment property

Investor / Wholesaler · Erie, PA · Member since 2015 · 120 posts · 18 votes
Here is the deal. The seller will be providing a good deal on a property. About $50k below market value. For easy math let's say it's market value is $150k and he is selling it for $100k. I would like to maximize this equity sooner than later and minimize the out of pocket expenses. Option 1: I can purchase the property at $100k and put down the 20%. After, I believe it's a 6 month wait, I can cash out refi. Since it's an investment property I can only cash out 70% of the equity and have to pay closing twice, once to purchase and once to refi. In the end I would have $25k minus closing costs and taxes. I believe you have to pay taxes on this correct? Option 2: I can do the same as option 1 but instead pull out a HELOC. Would I have to wait 6 months for this? I would still only be able to pull a Loc of about 75% correct? This would eliminate most closing costs, be quicker(don't believe I have to wait 6 months) and I won't have to pay taxes but will have funds available as needed. Option 3: Looking for a non traditional mortgage method. Is there a method of private funding available that I could use long term (30 years) and significantly reduce the closing costs banks charge today? If not is there something I could do with private money to purchase and refinance out with a traditional lender? I'm not in a situation where timing and a quick close is needed. Thanks in advance Dave
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  • Investor · New Bern, NC · Member since 2013 · 96 posts · 29 votes
    10y

    Option 2 is what I am using in my business however, it depends on your own comfort level I think.  

    One thing I think I would check on (I am not a tax accountant) is in Option 1 you asked about refi and pulling cash out. My understanding of the current tax laws is that you would NOT pay ANY taxes unless you sell the house. So in that sense this would be a tax deferal and when you sell you would owe capital gains at that time however, in the interim you are not taking a profit by obtaining a loan (neither refi or HELOC).

  • Investor · Zürich, Zürich · Member since 2016 · 292 posts · 115 votes
    10y

    Find a good mortgage broker. Also, if you're worried about closing cost eating your available cash, see if you can put them into your monthly payment. Will cost you, but it's bearable for an investment property, especially of you don't keep it forever/30 years. At least this is how I have done it a few times. YMMV.

  • Real Estate Investor · Burlington, VT · Member since 2010 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    10y

    @Dave S.  Call around in advance to check on the six months; a lot of banks may require one year before they'll use a new appraisal price.  Otherwise they'll use the purchase price ($100k in your example), and loan 75% of that.

    Good luck!

    - Tom

  • Real Estate Broker/Owner & Property Manager · Sugar Land, TX · Member since 2013 · 660 posts · 459 votes
    8y

    @Dave S.  It's great question which many new investors need to know and learn and how to do it depending on strategy.

    Let's say you are planning to do BRRRR strategy and needs some work. You could do HML for 70% of ARV and fix it up and refinance it to traditional conventional loan. No problem but you will lose all your cash on HML closing and traditional closing. But in your example, you have $50 equity and should be able to cover some HML closing on it.

    If you going to put full cash on your investment, you can refinance it with 30 days to regular conventional via deferred finance available now. 

    If it doesn't need any work at all. I bought 2 properties like that 3 months ago and we did straight conventional financing and put 20% down and paid almost 5k closing on each. I am ok with it since both of them had 25k built up equity on it. I got them for 5% interest. You can only do it for 100k not for appraised value 150k which is a bummer. There is non-traditional financing available but interest rates are high and closing cost way high too. 

    Right now, we got another property in cash with our LLC and refinancing to our name as conventional to appraised value and trying to use the equity on it. Only problem, we need to have tenant in place since our debt to income is too tight.. Let's hope we get tenant before closing and can close and cash out our investment. You can do this strategy too.

    Hope this helps. 

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    Lender · CA · Member since 2015 · 9k+ posts · 10k+ votes
    8y
    Originally posted by @Dave S.:

    Option 1:
    I can purchase the property at $100k and put down the 20%. After, I believe it's a 6 month wait, I can cash out refi. Since it's an investment property I can only cash out 70% of the equity and have to pay closing twice, once to purchase and once to refi. In the end I would have $25k minus closing costs and taxes. I believe you have to pay taxes on this correct?

     You can reduce that to one set of closing costs. If you know you will only be in the mortgage for 6 months, have your lender bake closing costs into the rate. 

    I did it myself once. Took an $8k lender credit and a trash rate, paid $150/mo more for six months, then refinanced. $8000 - $150*6 = $7100. True closing costs (meaning not counting taxes/ins that need to be paid regardless of the financing) on the refi were less than $7100, so I came out ahead. 

  • Investor / Wholesaler · Erie, PA · Member since 2015 · 120 posts · 18 votes
    8y

    good luck @Vijaianand Thirunageswaram  thanks for the tips!

  • Investor / Wholesaler · Erie, PA · Member since 2015 · 120 posts · 18 votes
    8y

    @Vijaianand Thirunageswaram can you explain in more details or reference a website that clearly defines what deferred finance is and how it works?

  • Real Estate Broker/Owner & Property Manager · Sugar Land, TX · Member since 2013 · 660 posts · 459 votes
    8y
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