Going for my first rehab property, looking for advice.

Going for my first rehab property, looking for advice.

Carolina, Puerto Rico · Member since 2018 · 19 posts · 11 votes

Hey bigger pockets members. I have been here for a few months now reading the books watching the videos listening to the podcasts, etc. Almost closed on 2 deals but fell through (but learned a lot during both experiences)

I am stuck in this situation, and as I am new to this and I would appreciate any help or advice given to me. I am even willing

After running the numbers on different properties over the past few months I came across a property that works on the calculator. 

I have a certified contractor with experience and a large team who is down to do the work. 

I currently have $120,000 saved cash. 

Im having issues with financing. I have 800 credit and minimal debt and income over 6 figures. Low debt to income ratio. 

The property is being sold for $100,000 and the renovations will run me $160,000. Great location was being built and left incomplete. It is a 4plex, but supposed to have 2 units on the top to turn it into 6 units. (my contractor will build the 2 extra units on top)

I can get 6 units out of this investment at $850 each unit. 

BANK SUMMARY SO FAR

(#1 I live in Puerto Rico) Some lenders will not lend because of this. Some banks lend in P.R. as well as states. 

I have one bank who will finance me the $100,000 but not renovations. (about 10k closing and legal fees and 5.5% interest)

I have one bank who said if I buy the house cash and they will loan me the renovations. (5.5% the total amount loaned  plus 6.5% interest monthly.  

My main property is worth $330,000 and i have $160,000 equity on it. (In PR my bank will not do a home equity line of credit, only refinance the entire house which will run me over $10k in closing costs)

I keep reading on how the ideal situation is to pay as low money down as possible. 

Can someone shine light as to how to go about making this happen, I see that it is a little complicated for a first deal however the contractor is great and giving me a good deal on the rehab. 

Thank you for reading and any input, reading recommendations, or advice, or leads would be greatly appreciated. 

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Jeff CopelandBusiness Member
Real Estate Broker · Tampa Bay/St Petersburg, FL · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 2k+ votes
7y

Your least expensive option will probably be to pursue a HELOC. It does not need to be with "your bank" - I imagine PR is tricky, but shop around and you may find a bank willing to do one on your primary.

Otherwise, I would lean towards financing the purchase, and bootstrapping the rehab. 

Your statement "I have one bank who said if I buy the house cash and they will loan me the renovations" makes me nervous. Banks are notorious for saying "Absolutely, we'd love to loan you the money!", then coming back after weeks of your time and mountains of paperwork and saying "We're really sorry, but underwriting said no to this one".  

Better to find that out before you sink $100k of your own cash into an already stalled project. 

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  • Jeff CopelandBusiness Member
    Real Estate Broker · Tampa Bay/St Petersburg, FL · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    7y

    Your least expensive option will probably be to pursue a HELOC. It does not need to be with "your bank" - I imagine PR is tricky, but shop around and you may find a bank willing to do one on your primary.

    Otherwise, I would lean towards financing the purchase, and bootstrapping the rehab. 

    Your statement "I have one bank who said if I buy the house cash and they will loan me the renovations" makes me nervous. Banks are notorious for saying "Absolutely, we'd love to loan you the money!", then coming back after weeks of your time and mountains of paperwork and saying "We're really sorry, but underwriting said no to this one".  

    Better to find that out before you sink $100k of your own cash into an already stalled project. 

    Copeland Morgan LLC4.770 Reviews
  • Real Estate Agent · San Juan, Puerto Rico · Member since 2017 · 72 posts · 44 votes
    7y

    Hey @Sergio Baerga I'm a fellow boricua newbie investor who just bought first property in Santurce, San Juan to house hack. I agree with u that this deal IS a little complicated, especially to be your first. Couple of things... 

    Have u tried financing with FHA203k loan? If the repairs will run u 60k adding two more xtra units, why not just fix what's there right now and THEN create those extra units? That way u don't need 60k in repairs and maybe can get financing for a FHA 203k loan. U will have to move in to one of the units though. I heard Brandon Turner call this in a podcast the BRRRHouseHacking method (House Hack + BRRR)

    If u don't qualify for this, I coincide with @Jeff Copeland, try getting HELOC. Shop around for local lenders like cooperativas, for example. Financing in Puerto Rico is tricky from the US but if u are resident here already just use the local banks. Don't rush to a deal because u have a good contractor, remember the deal has to make sense. Don't u dare on throwing away $120,000 in cash for only 1 deal. That's my opinion, hope it helps. Feel free to connect with me, would love to start a puerto rico meet up. Good luck on ur journey!

  • Property Manager · Chicago, IL · Member since 2017 · 31 posts · 8 votes
    7y

     Hello  hello Sergio I strongly believe that you can only use the 203K for four units and below. Anything above 4 unit is  commercials.

  • Carolina, Puerto Rico · Member since 2018 · 19 posts · 11 votes
    7y

    Thanks to every one who responded for the tips and recommendations. 

    @Roberto Torres sounds great to meet up and discuss the issues in PR. I have had trouble finding banks who do HELOCS on the island so far, but I am loving the journey and the knowledge gained through each hurdle. 

  • Real Estate Agent · San Juan, Puerto Rico · Member since 2017 · 72 posts · 44 votes
    7y

    @Sergio Baerga That's the attitude that will get u far in this game I believe! U gotta love the challenge, the process, and then things will come. I'll ask today at realtor office for a bank that does HELOC. I'm down to meet up.

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