Ways I have found money for investing!

Ways I have found money for investing!

Contractor · 08234 · Member since 2016 · 253 posts · 178 votes

Hi Everyone,

One of the key parts of investing is obviously finding the financing for the deals after you find it. It can be one of the easiest parts but you need to know what to look for. So many investors will tell new investors to not worry about the money and it will come when you have a deal but they forget to tell the new investor where to get it from when the time comes. I want to compile a list of places to find the money. So below are places that I have got money from, places I know other investors have achieved financing, and I would like everyone to add the ways they have raised funds for their properties.

-Hard money brokers- this one is pretty easy to find by asking another investor or looking up online. the key is to do your due diligence and find out exactly all their costs and rules. I have been caught up on a rule before that wasn't disclosed before and it killed my deal. This money is good for getting started because it TENDS to be easier to borrow. 

-Private Money- this one is borrowing money from a private individual. It can either be someone you know like a relative or friend, It could also be someone you find that has money they are looking to lend, Doctor, lawyer, dentist, contractor, etc. It is very important to make sure everything about the deal is very clear in this type of lending so no one can say something was missed. Benefits here can be that you can negotiate a good deal on the lending, from interest to no payment and splits of profits, the creativity is only limited by you imagination. 

-401k- people can lend money out of their 401k (it is a particular one that I myself am not positive of which) this is a great way for lender to make more money in their 401k and get good tax benefits on lending the money. An accountant would be a good person to ask about more particulars on this one.

-Traditional banks- smaller banks are lending money in a few ways. They are doing a flip loan much like hard money lenders but with better rates, they are doing lines of credit to experienced investors, they are creating "Lines of credit" that are treated as mortgages but because they are "lines of credit" they are already approved and can be closed quicker. The longer you use a bank the more money they will give you. 

-Transactional funding- this is a lender that is lending you money for a wholesale or a deal where you need to buy it then you can get a bank loan on the property. they only will lend the money for 30 days at most usually and expect a fixed money back on the money usually. You can look up some of these lenders online or ask other wholesaler investors. 

-FHA 203k loan- ask mortgage brokers about these, they are very involved but can be a great start for a new investor. it takes a lot less down to get the loan and can be very helpful in protecting you on your first deal because of all the requirements needed to settle the loan. these are most common for house hacks. I know a lot of these loans require some sort of owner occupation, But I believe a few don't (mortgage brokers please clarify for us)

Crowd Funding- This is easy enough to find online, their are many websites now offering it. It is useful to use if you have little or no funds for a particular deal. I would recommend reading more online and maybe finding and investor who has done it before to find out more. 

Creative-  This is the number one thing to be when it comes to funding your deal. I know some Investors who have funded deals by doing a partnership with the current owners, ex relative dies and the family decides to finance deal for investor who gets deal done and then everyone splits profit. There are so many ways to complete a deal that it only takes a knowledge of your costs and how real estate is bought and sold to figure out new ways to get it done. 

I ask everyone to add their experiences and knowledge to this discussion so we can all have a great resource of what's possible when it comes to getting the deal together and completed.


Thanks!

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Investor · Youngstown, OH · Member since 2017 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
7y

@Steve M. It's a numbers game. Say it's Jan. 1, and you have a $100k CC limit that's 0 interest for 18 months. You find a $20k house that needs $15k in repairs. You pull cash from the card for those transactions and have the repairs done by June 30th. You get a tenant in there and refinance it on December 31st, and it's appraised at $60k. The bank is willing to loan you 70% of the appraised value, so they give you $45k. You pay off the cards, get $10k in gold coins, and dive through them like Scrooge McDuck. 

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  • Member since 2019 · 9 posts · 1 vote
    7y

    @William Lees this is some great information. Especially for a new investor like me. Hope to have a deal done soon. I have been pre approved for a traditional loan and been in contact with a very helpful and patient hard money lender. Thanks again!

  • Rental Property Investor · Ithaca, NY · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y

    @Bob Daniels

    I agree with you. We fund our rehabs through credit cards. My girlfriend gets 0% introduction rates for 12+ months and 0% balance transfers when we open a new account. We’re doing this now and did it in the past. We’ve moved money so many times - her credit score went through the roof and our lines are extended. I tell her she’s the “money shuffler”.

  • New to Real Estate · Auburn, AL · Member since 2019 · 8 posts · 5 votes
    7y

    @Brian Gerlach if a bank was willing to offer me a $13k credit card as my first card at 21 years old just walking into boot camp, I’m sure there are $100k cards.

    Plus, we know there are celebrities with unlimited credit cards. I’m pretty sure it’s income-based.

  • Tampa, FL · Member since 2016 · 9 posts · 13 votes
    7y

    @Jackie Comitino

    Taking a loan against your 401(k) is definitely a great resource as long as you run the numbers and it all works out! Good luck! on your future deals!

  • Tampa, FL · Member since 2016 · 9 posts · 13 votes
    7y

    @Gary Bull

    I have my 401(k) with Principal and I spoke to them directly. The entire process was done online and it only takes a couple minutes. I encourage you to reach out to whoever handles your 401(k) account and ask them about their loan process and requirements. You'll be surprised at how simple and pain-free this can be! Good luck!

  • New to Real Estate · IN · Member since 2019 · 10 posts · 4 votes
    7y

    @Lori Greene have you or anyone on here heard of “Partner Driven Real Estate”?

  • Rental Property Investor · Memphis, TN · Member since 2014 · 114 posts · 40 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Bryan Cavellier:

    @Nicole Heasley I cant image having a CC line of $100k! Is that a realistic number for an experienced investor? I am new and not there yet, just curious!

    You can reach it with multiple cards easier. I have $110k in personal credit currently 

  • Member since 2019 · 2 posts · 3 votes
    7y

    Thanks @William Lees, for sharing this information. I’m a new investor. I didn’t know how to start investing without having the large funds behind me.

  • Contractor · 08234 · Member since 2016 · 253 posts · 178 votes
    7y

    @Luke Saglimbeni

    That is a good thing to know. A lot of people forget to look at the potential risks with borrowing money, whether it is more expense than calculated, or penalties for things they didn't know could happen. Thanks for letting us know. HELOCS are a great option as well definitely!

    @Jeshua Patrick

    Thanks for sharing the experience. I love when people try something new! and thanks for including the ups and the downs of it. 

    @Lori Greene

    Thanks for sharing! Why is private money your favorite?

    @Eric Drum

    I forgot about that option! What is the process for taking the money and returning it to the Life INS policy?

    @Wale Lawal

    I only used one myself, they were a local company called MB Capital. I met them a local REIA in NJ. I'm sure that a few other people could recommend some places as well.

    @Charles J English

    I'm glad this post has been helpful! Good luck finding your first deal!

    @Melvin German iii

    I'm glad this post helped you find some options you may not of know about. Definitely make sure to reach out to some of the people that have contributed to find out more about any topics that interest  you.

  • Rental Property Investor · East Longmeadow, MA · Member since 2019 · 154 posts · 64 votes
    7y

    @Account Closed raising private capital.  I do feel the best way to raise funds is to partner with a money person while you do all the other work.  Good luck

  • Member since 2019 · 34 posts · 22 votes
    7y

    Rookie question guys:

    If a HARD money lender wants 70% LTV and the LTV of your potential deal is 50%, does that mean you're ok with their requirement or does it have to meet the 70% to make it worth their while to lend you money?

  • Kiersten VogtPro Member
    Real Estate Agent · Ocean View, NJ · Member since 2015 · 76 posts · 25 votes
    7y

    Love this!!! Thank you for writing this up. I funded my very first solo flip with cash and credit cards (which definitely scared me a little.) Another flip was funded by a private investor who saw my capabilities and proven track record (I had also flipped houses with my parents but was more of the laborer and bookkeeper.) We purchased our personal residence in cash, fixed it up, refinanced and then purchased a duplex with the HELOC.

    I just recently had a family member approach me and say he would like to be a private investor on some of our next few deals! 

    I've looked into hard money but never took the plunge. What I like about hard money is that there's a second set of eyes on the deal. They won't fund it if there isn't enough meat on the bone! Yeah they're expensive, but if the numbers work why not? 

    This is what I love about real estate... the creativity in funding the deals is so fun! As is negotiating and figuring out win win win solutions for everyone involved. 

  • Specialist · Atlanta, GA · Member since 2014 · 179 posts · 100 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Bradley Ritter:

    @Mark Durham would you mind giving a step by step example on how you can use credit cards to fund real estate deals ??

    @Bradley Ritter without writing a book about the subject, (which I’m working on) here’s the Readers Digest version. Step 1: First & foremost, build & keep good credit scores. Step 2: Get as many CC’s as you can get. Step 3: Ask for credit line increases regularly. Step 4: When CC’s offer you balance transfer checks with low (sometimes 0%) interest rates and low (sometimes 0%) transaction fees, quite often they’ll allow you to deposit the check into your bank account to use any way you want. Step 5: Buy real estate.

  • Specialist · Huntsville, UT · Member since 2015 · 458 posts · 249 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Donna Sipes:

    @Lori Greene have you or anyone on here heard of “Partner Driven Real Estate”?

    No I've never heard of them Donna, but I looked them up. I can see how that offer would look enticing to a new investor since they provide the funding. But if they are charging you for mentoring AND partnering with you at the same time, taking some of your profits, that is generally frowned upon and could land them in trouble.

    But since there are so many creative ways to fund a deal as mentioned in this thread, you don't need something like that just for the funding.

    A great mentor, on the other hand, who can show you step by step how to fund your own deals, yet will never ask for a penny of your profits, can be invaluable to a new investor because you can learn so much faster from their mistakes.

  • Miami, FL · Member since 2019 · 64 posts · 8 votes
    7y

    @Mark Durham thank you so much for the advice and @ me when the book comes out . I'm sure it will be a great book count me in for 10 copies

  • Specialist · Huntsville, UT · Member since 2015 · 458 posts · 249 votes
    7y

    William, you asked why private money is our favorite way to fund our deals. Private Money Partners (people who have money but don't lend as a profession) is our favorite funding strategy because it is generally much lower interest than hard money and you set the terms.

    To find private money partners all you have to do is get into the habit of starting conversations with everyone you know and meet about what they're doing for a living. That opens the door for you to talk about your real estate investing.

    Then you say, if you know anyone who wants to make a high return on a short-term note backed by real estate, let me know, I'll hook them up.

    Often they will say, I'm interested or I know someone. Ask them what they consider to be a high return. They might say 5%.

    That's a pretty good rate for private funding that you don't have to qualify for. And since they don't lend money as a profession, you'll be setting the terms.

    Do this all the time and before you know it, you'll have all the funding you need always at your disposal.

  • Rental Property Investor · Charlotte, NC · Member since 2017 · 298 posts · 232 votes
    7y

    @Jay Anderson credit score isn't everything, it's only part of the equation. Taxable or W-2 income is another big factor in how large of a credit line you may be offered. Other factors include but not limited to DTI ratio, current available credit vs income, etc.

  • Rental Property Investor · Harrisburg PA · Member since 2019 · 62 posts · 42 votes
    7y

    @Account Closed 

    Whole life (cash value) life insurance is your money. You cannot borrow against the value of the death benefit- just the cash value. Loans are tax free of course unless you close the account.


    I only know the process for New York Life. I login and open one of my policies and it gives me the max loan amount and interest of a loan (5%). The money transfers to my bank account upon the request. Note that my bank account is already connected for premium and loan payments. Whole life is long haul so worthwhile cash value is available after 10 years, not at the start. However, your whole life agent may have other policies that are different.

  • Rental Property Investor · Brooklyn, NY · Member since 2019 · 106 posts · 47 votes
    7y

    @Michael Weiss :-O really ? I thought one is not allowed to invest their own IRA funds ? May you please explain how you went about doing yours?

  • Member since 2019 · 6 posts · 1 vote
    7y

    @Ley Nezifort https://www.bankrate.com/finance/taxes/when-ok-to-tap-ira-1.aspx

  • Investor · Youngstown, OH · Member since 2017 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    7y

    @Sami Gren My CC's are all business CC's, so they don't show up on my personal credit. But that is a very valid point!

  • New to Real Estate · IN · Member since 2019 · 10 posts · 4 votes
    6y

    @Lori Greene thank you for the advise. We have not accepted their offer yet and now won’t be accepting it. We are learning a lot through this site and any advise on how to find is always accepted and appreciated.

    Thank you for your help!

  • Specialist · Huntsville, UT · Member since 2015 · 458 posts · 249 votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Donna Sipes:

    @Lori Greene thank you for the advise. We have not accepted their offer yet and now won’t be accepting it. We are learning a lot through this site and any advise on how to find is always accepted and appreciated.

    Thank you for your help!

    My pleasure Donna. I'm glad you made a decision. 

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