First Home Sale, Time to Upgrade or Invest

First Home Sale, Time to Upgrade or Invest

Napa, CA · Member since 2012 · 2 posts · 0 votes

Hi All,

I appreciate this site and its forums and articles very much; my husband and I have learned much from all your valuable insight.

We purchased our first home in Napa, CA in March 2010 for $269,500. We purchased an investor flip with an FHA loan and paid slightly over market value at the time because all the other homes in our price range would not qualify for an FHA loan and cash buyers were snatching up all the inventory.

Fast forward to today: we have about $100K in equity in the home. Because we're paying about $215/month in PMI we feel we need to 'get out' as soon as possible as it's money down the drain. We were pre-approved this last week for $425,000. Provided our house sells for what we expect it to, we will be able to meet the down payment. In our area however no sellers are accepting contingent offers so we would have to sell our house, move into a rental, and then purchase our next property.

We are looking to make the best investment decision as real estate is our plan for retirement (I'm 32, husband is 42). I feel loathe to go down the traditional route as I feel there must be more creative/wiser ways to climb this ladder. As we see it, we feel we have the following options and would love everyone's thoughts and expertise.

#1 - Traditional - Now vs. next Spring/Summer
Sell our property now (summer), move into a rental, purchase our next property in the 'off-season', Oct-Nov. Our pre-approval was quoted with a 4.125% interest rate and there is an upswing in the market at the very moment, expected to drop back in the Fall. My husband prefers to continue making improvements and list next Spring/Summer when the market might not be so tight and we might be able to purchase our next home with the sale of our current home as a contingency. I personally don't think this aspect of the market is going to change by next Spring/Summer and the interest rates will have gone up. That said though, property values would continue to grow and we would realize those gains. So, now or later?

#2 - Leverage
It may be an option to hold onto our current house and leverage it to purchase another house to be used as a rental, or we use our current house as a rental. The cost of leveraging may be too expensive. Are there creative ways to do this and is it worth doing this while we're still paying PMI? We re-fi'd in 2012 so we have another 4 years minimum before we can lose the PMI.

We would really like to sell high right now and purchase a bank-owned or short sale but those are becoming less and less and much harder to get access to as investors swipe them all up immediately. I feel like we don't stand a chance, particularly given that our buying power is the equity of our house.

We do ultimately anticipate having multiple properties but right now we are building capital and that is our motivation.

Thank you so much for your insight.
Shauna

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  • Brandon TurnerPro Member
    Investor · Maui, HI · Member since 2009 · 13k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    13y

    Hey Shauna Mackenzie - tough situation. Personally, I think I would sell now, move into a rental, and then re-buy. But I don't have a lot of reason for that. I just like the idea. Anyone else?

    Also don't forget to add a photo!

  • Denver, CO · Member since 2012 · 218 posts · 48 votes
    13y

    Whats the value of your current home.

    Typically you can get rid of the PMI without refinancing assuming you have 20% equity, and based on what I'm reading you do.

    In rare cases you may have to refi, but I doubt you will in this situation. Before the new FHA rules started PMI automatically drops off in 5 years, but you can typically pay for a new appraisal and assuming you have the equity they will remove the PMI.

  • Napa, CA · Member since 2012 · 2 posts · 0 votes
    13y

    Really? That would be great! The lenders we've spoken with though say that the 20% equity must be in purchase price to loan balance; that the equity is not calculated by comps or appraised value. We owe $251K and our realtor is advising to list at $365K.

  • Real Estate Investor · Audubon, PA · Member since 2009 · 13k+ posts · 8k+ votes
    13y

    Read your loan documents to see what you have to do to get rid of the PMI. An appraisal might work, but it might be have to come in at some lower LTV (L being you loan balance, V being appraised value), like 78% or less, and not 80%.

  • Investor · Clairemont, CA · Member since 2011 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    13y

    It is possible to get the PMI dropped based on an appraisal. Search up top in the right hand corner for "PMI appraisal" and you'll probably find what you need.

    Now to your original question, I would absolutely advise against "trading up" if you truly want to get into RE or at the very least be financially free. Doing this is akin to requesting a balance increase on your credit card because you want to get out of debt.

    You're about to fall into the "equity in your home" trap. RE investing comes into play when something pays you. My personal philosophy is that a home with a mortgage that you live is an "expensive doodad" and not a benefit. That's not to say don't buy a home just recognize it for what it is, and that buying bigger will reduce your borrowing ability.

    I personally would get your PMI removed and then use your borrowing ability to purchase an actual cash flow rental. The only reason to move is to get rid of the PMI, so once that is gone there is nothing to stop you staying put and working on investing. Just my .02

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