2016 Tax Questions, investor beginnings

2016 Tax Questions, investor beginnings

Engineer · Fawn Grove, PA · Member since 2015 · 93 posts · 10 votes

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My wife and I are slowly proceeding towards our goals of being a buy and hold investors.  We didn't make any purchases during 2016.  How do our treat our incurred expenses during 2016? 

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  • Real Estate Investor · Stevens Point, WI · Member since 2016 · 15 posts · 18 votes
    9y

    If you have not generated any income, nor purchased any properties, the only expenses you could deduct would be those that you incurred in the process of setting up your business (as an LLC, S-Corp, etc.), just be careful, the IRS expects you to make a profit in 3 out of any 5 years and they are quick to label those that do not meet this requirement as a "hobby" and then none of your losses are deductible. What kind of expenses do you have that you think would be deductible?

  • Specialist · Lakewood, CO · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    9y

    There are many more things that go into determining if a business is considered a hobby, but profit in 3 out of 5 years is a quick test.
    https://www.irs.gov/uac/is-your-hobby-a-for-profit...

    Look at your expenses. Are they actually worth deducting? If you didn't buy a property then your expenses may only be $100. Then again, maybe you went hog-wild, got your license, had an attorney draw up an LLC, etc. and end up at $10k of expenses. Check with your CPA to see what your difference in taxes would be, then decide if it is worth taking.

  • Fairfield CT · Member since 2017 · 63 posts · 77 votes
    9y

    I am a fellow investor and real estate CPA who specializes in tax strategy for investors. The answer to your question is more complicated than just considering the hobby loss rules. If you want to share specifics with me, I will be happy to point you in the right direction. Connect with me here or look me up on the internet. My questions would be: What are the nature of the expenses? Were they incurred in pursuit of purchasing the first property? Were they incurred inside or outside of an LLC? If so, how many members? It also depends on your personal income situations. Tax strategies must be tailored to each person's unique situation and what they actually did. There is no cookie cutter approach.

  • Investor · Fort Bragg, NC · Member since 2016 · 59 posts · 20 votes
    9y

    @Eric Schrader  As both a real estate investor and an enrolled agent I concur with the advice provided by @Ted Lanzaro

    Not having an Enrolled Agent or CPA on your team to help with these questions early on in the process is a fatal flaw from my experience. 

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