Rental Property Investor · Fort Worth, TX · Member since 2017 · 24 posts · 18 votes
I have been trying to research the least expensive way to keep my records until I build my real estate rentals more. I tried to set up quickbooks online, but without paying $720 a year for the ability to do class tracking, it seems like it wouldn't be as beneficial.
I know there are other tools out there more geared towards real estate like xero, etc, but I'm still trying to avoid paying so much every month.
Has anybody used realtyzam or rentalhero (rentalhero.io) they seem to be linked? It seems like it could be geared towards my needs, but I see no mention of it anywhere. Maybe it's just a small company.
Rental Property Investor · Thunder Bay, ON · Member since 2018 · 13 posts · 3 votes
6y
Just started the free trial of Rentalhero and it looks like it will be able to cover everything I need for my 2 small MF properties. For all the features provided with the current price, I've got my fingers crossed that it will work.
You've absolutely nailed it - "class tracking" or the equivalent somewhere else is usually a top dollar feature.
I haven't used rentalhero (yet, thanks for the tip!) but generally - new accounting and property tracking softwares fall short in one of two places:
1) they don't actually generate financial statements that a CPA or Lender will approve, or 2) They can, but the learning curve is so steep or convoluted it's impossible for you to get help if/when you need it (I imagine this is why this thread is a little slow right now)
Have you asked your accountant what they think will work best? Select accounting and bookkeeping firms have access to software like Quickbooks Online at a discount, and a few of them even pass those discounts along directly to the customer!
Real Estate Consultant · Lehigh Valley PA & New York City · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 668 votes
7y
@Eric Chappell - just started a trial to check on rentalhero and it's not a complete accounting system. It does not generate the Balance Sheet. This is essential for lenders or CPA.
Rental Property Investor · Fort Worth, TX · Member since 2017 · 24 posts · 18 votes
7y
Well, for software, I would like to stay under $300. Now that I've had a bit of time to put in some info into rental hero, under the "profit and loss" section, you can save/print a PDF with details. This did formulate a table of income and expenses and I had the option to include receipts I uploaded for those income and expense transactions. I would imagine this would be close to a balance sheet.
I'm not sure what my CPA would want, but that looked pretty inclusive since I categorized my transactions into their respective categories, ie property management, and repairs.
Real Estate Consultant · Lehigh Valley PA & New York City · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 668 votes
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@Eric Chappell Income Statement is nowhere close to a Balance Sheet. Only thing the Income Statement info would be the retained earnings on the Balance Sheet. Balance Sheet shows all Assets, Liability, and Equity.
If you don't have many properties and are comfortable using excel; I would use excel. Most banks allow you to export the full year of activity to excel.
If you are not comfortable using excel - you should reach out to your accountant if he/she has a bookkeeper on staff and how much it would cost them to do your books.
It may be cheaper overall for your accountant to do it if you just need the books to be done once a year instead of on a monthly basis. Furthermore, this saves you from having to pay for the software.
Rental Property Investor · Fort Worth, TX · Member since 2017 · 24 posts · 18 votes
7y
Basit,
I wouldn't need it done on a monthly, but I am just trying to get organized in general. I have thought about a bookkeeper, but then I feel like it would end up costing just as much as buying the more expensive tax software.
Rental Property Investor · Fort Worth, TX · Member since 2017 · 24 posts · 18 votes
7y
Caleb,
I have 3 properties now. I had generally been just saving my expenses in google sheets to further organize later and receipts in google drive since I can more easily access and upload all my paperwork from my phone and access my drive from anywhere.
I have and use excel for some things, but I generally would prefer something more geared towards real estate. I have done a lot more on rental hero now and I'm finding it very easy to use and it is very organized. We'll see.
Rental Property Investor · Fort Worth, TX · Member since 2017 · 24 posts · 18 votes
7y
UPDATE:
I have been putting my data into this rental hero software for a while now and I absolutely love it. I have a business google pixelbook, which doesn't use windows or mac os, so it is important that I have the ability to use some form of online access (remote login to pc or mac...or actual online software).
I use google drive for all my scanned business files, so I can easily upload my receipts for transactions/expenses. You can print out a CPA sheet that can break down every transaction (with receipts if you want - so you just upload it once when you're entering data and you're solid)
You have the equivalent of class tracking because you can enter each rental or unit separately. You have the option of a single family unit or multifamily, etc when starting a new rental. You can add notes to any transaction also, so later if you want to search for a vendor (you gas company, insurance) you can search by the actual vendor or something you put in your notes. It has a great search option.
I like how visually organized the software is. You get a pie chart of income and expense breakdowns and then you can open up the bullets to the expense or income categories and it is further broken down as far as you have decided to enter categories for your data.
Best I found is, this was a 30 day free trial and I just looked to check, it is currently listed as $119 a year. That's pretty nice. It blows quickbooks out of the water with ease of use and I can do the class tracking that the basic $20 a month quickbooks was lacking.
There's a phone app also, I just added it to my phone, so I'm not sure how much I will use it yet other than for reference as opposed to opening the website for details. I like to use my computer to upload and organize my receipts typically, but that is because I typically have "scanned" receipts to my google drive from my phone camera. I will still do that for keeping my records straight, but I'll try to work with the app a bit and see how easy it is to pull receipts etc.
I thought an update was warranted because I really like the software and the PRICE.
Rental Property Investor · Spring Lake, MI · Member since 2017 · 48 posts · 23 votes
7y
Eric,
I just finished my free trial with Rental Hero and liked it so much I paid for the annual subscription. It is simple to use and was just what I needed to keep track of my 5 properties (10 units). Maybe in the future they will add the ability to create a balance sheet which could be beneficial.
Rental Property Investor · Fort Worth, TX · Member since 2017 · 24 posts · 18 votes
7y
Hey Todd,
Their customer service is very receptive. I asked for an option and they added it. I got an email to let me know they updated the software. Try to email them with what you want.
Rental Property Investor · Rockwall, TX · Member since 2018 · 10 posts · 5 votes
7y
My fiance and I started using rental hero once we acquired our second property. It's pretty simple to use and gives you an overall picture of your situation, along with individual breakdowns. For people who are not super accounting-savvy like us, I would definitely recommend it.
College Station, TX · Member since 2016 · 89 posts · 73 votes
7y
I just signed up for the free trial. I had been using Stessa, which I really loved, but it is buggy and the banking connection to Chase was continually breaking, which I needed to re-connect, but when I did that I had to go through 200+ transactions and re-allocate the expenses. This happened multiple times.... so I'm done with them.
Rental Property Investor · Sarasota, FL · Member since 2017 · 23 posts · 23 votes
7y
@Eric Chappell can confirm. I just upgraded from the free trial to full sub of rentalhero.io to manage 7 properties with room to grow. No more excel to help scale!
Mandan, ND · Member since 2017 · 42 posts · 64 votes
7y
Have being using Rental Hero for a year now and I absolutely love it. My CPA had no issues using the Info from there to do my taxes. Highly recommended
Real Estate Investor · Minneapolis, MN · Member since 2008 · 37 posts · 7 votes
6y
I'm on the RentalHero trial right now and coming from Quickbooks at $70 / month for only 2 properties. So far I'm really liking RentalHero and hope it could work for me. That's some serious monthly savings.
But, from this thread above, I'm wondering if not having Balance Sheet a big deal? Or, is there a manual workaround like keeping track in a Google Sheet or Excel?
I just signed up for Rental Hero too, I like it so far. Based on the thread above, I sent my accountant the Profit & loss sheet and she said that was all I needed. And she said I didn't need a balance sheet for either of them, at least not for my taxes. I only have 2 properties, and each is in a separate LLC. Not sure if this will help anyone else.
Real Estate Investor · Sacramento, CA · Member since 2010 · 298 posts · 103 votes
6y
I've used Quicken to keep track of 14 properties for years and it does everything I need, even balance sheets. It's a one time purchase, not ongoing monthly or yearly.
Rental Property Investor · Thunder Bay, ON · Member since 2018 · 13 posts · 3 votes
6y
Just started the free trial of Rentalhero and it looks like it will be able to cover everything I need for my 2 small MF properties. For all the features provided with the current price, I've got my fingers crossed that it will work.
Accountant · Boston, MA · Member since 2019 · 386 posts · 336 votes
6y
A lot of questions around a balance sheet. As a CPA, I would strongly advise you have a balance sheet kept, somewhere. You could run into issues down the line without one, depending on your business structure.
A lot of questions around a balance sheet. As a CPA, I would strongly advise you have a balance sheet kept, somewhere. You could run into issues down the line without one, depending on your business structure.
I am using Quickbooks for Mac 2019 and using the class feature and it is a beast to manage. I am currently test driving Rental Hero. Could you elaborate on how not having a balance sheet would affect an 18 door SMLLC with no mortgages. I really appreciate your input.