How to go after Growth Equity Group-Brett Immel, Preston Despenas

How to go after Growth Equity Group-Brett Immel, Preston Despenas

Kathy FettkePro Member
Rental Property Investor · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2014 · 104 posts · 180 votes

Hi everyone, 

I really should know the answer to this. The obvious answer is to sue when someone has committed fraud. Unfortunately, that is an expensive time-consuming process. And when the company you're suing has shut down and apparently has no money, is it even worth the effort?

I happen to know that Preston Despenas, one of the partners of Growth Equity Group, is still doing real estate in Texas. I also heard Brett Immel was still doing business in Iowa, though I read an article that says he has been busted for lying during a bankruptcy hearing and may go to prison for 5 years.

Would it make sense to contact the S.E.C.? Any other government agency?

Basically, what these guys did to some of our Real Wealth Network members allegedly is:

- GEG showed RWN some of the properties they had renovated and leased out to prove their business model

- They told our members via a webinar that they buy, renovate and sell rental properties below market value to investors with 8% cash flow

- They said they offer non-recourse financing at 50% LTV

In reality, GEG sold properties that were not always renovated - even if the price point reflected a renovation. The non-recourse lender was actually the original seller who was financing - GEG was the middleman making a HUGE markup. GEG gave investors inspection and appraisal reports. (Unfortunately, the investor fell for this gimmick and did NOT get their own 3rd party inspections, appraisals or even visit the properties they were buying, against our best efforts to encourage proper due diligence and follow our check list for their own protection.)

So now some people are stuck with properties worth half what they paid (not all RWN members), with no renovation done, and constant repairs and vacancies. The problem is, they never got their own inspections or appraisals so how do they actually know if the renovation was done or not? 

I threatened GEG that we would go very public with this if they didn't fix the situation, and they said, "Go for it. We did nothing wrong." They claim the repairs were done and that the properties were worth more at the time of purchase but that the area has deteriorated since then.

Any help on this subject would be greatly appreciated!

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Member since 2020 · 1 post · 3 votes
6y

Hi.  If anyone is interested, Brett (Tim) Immel is living and working in Des Moines, IA.  He is operating the same business scheme as Hanover Partners and Growth Equity Group.  The new company is called Beckstone Partners.  You can search this company on the web, but there is ZERO mention of his name in affiliation with the company. 

As mentioned, he goes by the name “Tim” or “Timothy”.  

I hear he is awaiting his jail sentence for his fraudulent bankruptcy filing several years ago.  Either way, he is still somehow in business...

Hope this helps anyone.  

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  • Rental Property Investor · Smyrna, GA · Member since 2018 · 974 posts · 645 votes
    7y

    Hi @Kathy Fettke! This is similar to what Clayton Morris has been accused of recently: 

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/10/business/clayton-morris-indianapolis-fox-news.html

    I believe the FTC should be involved due to the advertising side of this alledged fraud. There are advertising claim issues with the lack of substantiation. 

  • Real Estate Broker · Naples, FL · Member since 2013 · 9k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    7y

    If they have no assets or if you don't have verifiable proof a lawsuit is worthless.

  • Kathy FettkePro Member
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    Rental Property Investor · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2014 · 104 posts · 180 votes
    7y

    Someone called me today (probably his wife) and said Preston has been trying so hard to clean up his image and was upset by this post. She said he didn't know what Brett was doing at the time and is innocent. I asked how could he not have known? Brett was his partner.

    You can't clean up your reputation by running away.

    Preston got to reap the rewards when the money was flowing at GEG. Now he needs to participate in the payout to investors who lost money when the properties they bought through GEG were never renovated, even after they paid for those renovations.

    I will be contacting the SEC and FTC so they can take care of it.

  • Investor · Fremont, CA · Member since 2015 · 211 posts · 125 votes
    6y

    i was also one of the victims of GEG. They now are.all working under new name sdirawealth. Beware of dealing with them. Any information of how to pursue the matter with them. It's nice to see you standing for your members.

  • Member since 2020 · 2 posts · 4 votes
    6y

     I have 10 properties in the Portsmouth Virginia area and as of right now I am trying to sell those properties and they’re worthless as far as recouping any of the money that I put into the purchase 

     I have claims at the moment with the FTC in the SEC also have a claim with sender I filled out an affidavit and waiting for them to return with the information 

     I have to say Preston and his crew really did a bad job on me for I invested my retirement money in these places and I have no chance of recouping any percentage of my investment 

     I would like to sue these people if it’s all possible I just don’t know how to get started and go about finding a lawyer that would handle the shoot process 

    If anyone out there has any idea as to how I can go about doing this please let me know through this through a post if you would please

  • Member since 2020 · 2 posts · 4 votes
    6y

    We need everyone that is in this chat room and if we know anyone that has done business with growth equity and is in the same situation that we are in file a claim with the SEC

  • Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
    Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
    6y

    @Andrey Y.  Andrey this the same deal you were posting about a few months back.. if so i would contact Kathy and see whats up.. its exactly as i thought it was.. seller financing so the debt was to the seller who then probably sold the notes to other investors.. so no recourse just bad deal 

  • Specialist · Honolulu, HI · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Kathy Fettke:

    Hi everyone, 

    I really should know the answer to this. The obvious answer is to sue when someone has committed fraud. Unfortunately, that is an expensive time-consuming process. And when the company you're suing has shut down and apparently has no money, is it even worth the effort?

    I happen to know that Preston Despenas, one of the partners of Growth Equity Group, is still doing real estate in Texas. I also heard Brett Immel was still doing business in Iowa, though I read an article that says he has been busted for lying during a bankruptcy hearing and may go to prison for 5 years.

    Would it make sense to contact the S.E.C.? Any other government agency?

    Basically, what these guys did to some of our Real Wealth Network members allegedly is:

    - GEG showed RWN some of the properties they had renovated and leased out to prove their business model

    - They told our members via a webinar that they buy, renovate and sell rental properties below market value to investors with 8% cash flow

    - They said they offer non-recourse financing at 50% LTV

    In reality, GEG sold properties that were not always renovated - even if the price point reflected a renovation. The non-recourse lender was actually the original seller who was financing - GEG was the middleman making a HUGE markup. GEG gave investors inspection and appraisal reports. (Unfortunately, the investor fell for this gimmick and did NOT get their own 3rd party inspections, appraisals or even visit the properties they were buying, against our best efforts to encourage proper due diligence and follow our check list for their own protection.)

    So now some people are stuck with properties worth half what they paid (not all RWN members), with no renovation done, and constant repairs and vacancies. The problem is, they never got their own inspections or appraisals so how do they actually know if the renovation was done or not? 

    I threatened GEG that we would go very public with this if they didn't fix the situation, and they said, "Go for it. We did nothing wrong." They claim the repairs were done and that the properties were worth more at the time of purchase but that the area has deteriorated since then.

    Any help on this subject would be greatly appreciated!

    Here is the thread I started a few months back detailing my experience with Growth Equity Group, Brett Immel, and their cronies.

    https://www.biggerpockets.com/...

    Subsequently, I've had dozens of investors come to me directly, many of them having phone conversations with me, stating how they lost most or all of their retirement funds. Truly sad.

    They have been reported to some authorities, but I am not sure if anyone was able to collect legally.

    I would love to offset the $25-30K I lost getting tied up in their scam.

  • Specialist · Honolulu, HI · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

    @Andrey Y.  Andrey this the same deal you were posting about a few months back.. if so i would contact Kathy and see whats up.. its exactly as i thought it was.. seller financing so the debt was to the seller who then probably sold the notes to other investors.. so no recourse just bad deal 

     Yup. I linked the thread above. Truly disgusting human beings.

  • Lewisville, TX · Member since 2015 · 344 posts · 264 votes
    6y

    This is crazy & sad to see but not surprising!

    Several people that pitched me on real estate partnerships & syndication over the last decade are now broke, in prison or being sued.

    Growth Equity in Chicago is one & fortunately like with Steve Down I steered clear of them!

    Link to article about Falls Event center founder that recently went under & is facing major legal issues. His wedding venues in Dallas all shut down suddenly recently & left many couples out their deposits & venues!

    Sad times we live in just as we enter bear market today & prepare for crash of our lifetime!

    https://rqn.com/blog/utahsecuritiesfraud/tag/steven-down/

  • Investor · Singapore · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    6y

    @Kathy Fettke. So if I understand correctly, RWN brought shady deals to their investors, watched them invest without proper due diligence and investors got screwed? Isn't the whole point of joining a group like RWN to avoid exactly that? Or am I missing something?

  • Kathy FettkePro Member
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    Rental Property Investor · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2014 · 104 posts · 180 votes
    6y

    @Account Closed and to be clear, the people on this thread found GEG on their own, not through us. 

  • Investor · Singapore · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    6y

    @Kathy Fettke Im certainly not trying to pick a fight or malign RWN. But it seems to me that referral clubs only real value is vetting suppliers. I dont know your business model exactly but I assume you collect some referral fee from the supplier? And or some kind of fee from the investor as well? In that case you do bear the responsibility when said supplier turns out to be a fraud dont you think? And if not then why should an investor use your service at all? Im not sure how far RWN should go to make things right as of course not doing your own inspection and appraisal is pretty stupid. But I do believe RWN has to share some responsibility.

  • Kathy FettkePro Member
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    Rental Property Investor · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2014 · 104 posts · 180 votes
    6y

    @Account Closed It's Ok. You're not picking a fight and it's a valid question. 

    We do not charge a fee to our members and we do receive a broker to broker fee, but it is up to the broker to pay the referring broker, and GEG opted not to pay us. 

    How would you recommend we vet the brokers beyond what we mentioned above? 

    This is what we tell members:  These teams have a track record with us. That does NOT mean you should trust them blindly! Always vet each property thoroughly as the past does not equal the future. 

    In the case of GEG, we let our members know we did not have a track record with them - they were new to us and just being tested - and therefore it was even more important to perform thorough due diligence since we can't be involved in the transaction. 

    Again, on the flip side, the brokers on our list who have been around for a long time (a decade) have become quite reliable. And even with that said, real estate is real estate. Not every property is the same. In fact, they are all vastly different. Past performance does not equal future performance. Each property comes with its own set of risks and every investor must understand those risks and do the minimum - get 3rd party inspections, 3rd party appraisals, verify rents, jobs  and crime rates at city-data.com - before buying. Especially when buying out of state! And still, neighborhoods can change, tenants can go rogue, things can break etc.

    I'm always looking for ways to help protect investors so I'm open to any ideas you have. I think we offer an awesome service, but we can't control what people do.

  • Kathy FettkePro Member
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    Rental Property Investor · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2014 · 104 posts · 180 votes
    6y

    @Account Closed and like I mentioned earlier, we found out about their shenanigans very quickly, so only a handful of people contacted them, and we immediately removed them from our referral list.

  • Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
    Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Kathy Fettke:

    @Account Closed and like I mentioned earlier, we found out about their shenanigans very quickly, so only a handful of people contacted them, and we immediately removed them from our referral list.

    this has happened to all of us in the industry myself included.. One of my vendors ran into these guys over in either AU or Singapore and came back with an impression of sleazy  is what they said..   I had a chat with them on the phone as i was curious about the funding.. but came to the conclusion that the down payment ( the client made to buy) was probably what they paid for the property and the seller carry back note was the profit.. and then the seller carry back note is sold to yet another investor.. who is investing for coupon money.  

  • Kathy FettkePro Member
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    Rental Property Investor · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2014 · 104 posts · 180 votes
    6y

    @Rowan Roderick-Jones This is really helpful. Thank you. I will spread the info to anyone I know who was affected.

  • Roni E.Pro Member
    Specialist · Earth 2.0 · Member since 2019 · 598 posts · 271 votes
    6y

    I would speak to lawyer and let them review the agreement maybe can do a class action and sue personally the managers if fraud. I also would request an accounting. 

  • Fairfax, MO · Member since 2017 · 113 posts · 170 votes
    6y

    SDIRA Wealth also works with Morris Invest. I'm beginning to think SDIRA is as corrupt as these others...

  • Kathy FettkePro Member
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    Rental Property Investor · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2014 · 104 posts · 180 votes
    6y

    @Account Closed 100% they are

  • Member since 2020 · 1 post · 3 votes
    6y

    Hi.  If anyone is interested, Brett (Tim) Immel is living and working in Des Moines, IA.  He is operating the same business scheme as Hanover Partners and Growth Equity Group.  The new company is called Beckstone Partners.  You can search this company on the web, but there is ZERO mention of his name in affiliation with the company. 

    As mentioned, he goes by the name “Tim” or “Timothy”.  

    I hear he is awaiting his jail sentence for his fraudulent bankruptcy filing several years ago.  Either way, he is still somehow in business...

    Hope this helps anyone.  

  • Specialist · Honolulu, HI · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Account Closed:

    SDIRA Wealth also works with Morris Invest. I'm beginning to think SDIRA is as corrupt as these others...

     SDIRA Wealth IS Growth Equity Group. Same exact tactics and scam, just under a different name after their 'business model' came to light to myself and hundreds of others.

  • Investor · Member since 2019 · 4 posts · 0 votes
    5y

    @Andrey Y. Is there a link to SDIRA scams and tactics recently.  I have been reading mixed reviews. Thanks

  • Specialist · Honolulu, HI · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    5y
    Originally posted by @Wei Li:

    @Andrey Y. Is there a link to SDIRA scams and tactics recently.  I have been reading mixed reviews. Thanks

    Mixed? That group are scammers with zero morals or scruple. Do not deal with any of the individuals mentioned in this thread:

    https://www.biggerpockets.com/...

    I outline my experience and many others weighed in.

  • Investor · Fremont, CA · Member since 2015 · 211 posts · 125 votes
    4y
    Quote from @Harish V.:

    i was also one of the victims of GEG. They now are.all working under new name sdirawealth. Beware of dealing with them. Any information of how to pursue the matter with them. It's nice to see you standing for your members.

    I am not sure how they manage to stay in business and keep creating new companies. SDIRAwealth, Beckstone partners. I wish there was a way to warn people..
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