On Track to FI Number? Advice and Recommendations

On Track to FI Number? Advice and Recommendations

Fort Lauderdale, FL · Member since 2026 · 16 posts · 18 votes

Hey everyone,

My name is Jenna. I'm relatively new to the BP forums but have been an avid listener of the BP Money Podcast for quite some time.

I'm a 28 yo married female. I've always been pretty financially conscious but didn't really learn about FI until maybe 2 years ago nor did I have a direction/plan before then. I just sort of always did the things I was "supposed to do" like save, invest, etc but didn't really have anything I was working towards.

My wife, on the other hand, didn't grow up with the same financial background. She has some student loans and wasn't very financially-inclined before we started dating. However, we started talking about money very early on in our relationship and although she didn't know much at the time, she was at least open to discussing it and unafraid, which I am grateful for! Not every money conversation has been easy, but the more we talk about it, the more comfortable we both get and finance has now become an integral part of our relationship, so much so that we talk about FI, our net worth, finances, budgeting, etc on a weekly basis.

I feel as though we laid a good foundation, but I'm now at the point of trying to figure out if we are on track to FI and also ways to improve our position even further.

I've started using Monarch Money (thanks for the 50% off one year code from the BP Money Podcast!) so we can track our dual net worth and cash flow in one place. Before this, we each had individual spread sheets and conscious spending plans but nowhere for us to see our combined profile.

My financial outlook -- Across my various accounts, I have about $238K, about 55% of which is savings (actively trying to save for a house and/or other investment) and the remainder in various retirement and/or brokerage accounts (Roth IRA, HSA, 401-Ks, individual stocks, brokerage account, etc). I have no debt.

My wife's financial outlook -- My wife has a little under $24k in assets, 54% in savings and the remainder in various retirement accounts. She also has about $43k in student loans that we've been paying towards every month, but the interest on that varies from 3.4 - 5.3% so it's not too bad, comparatively.

In total our combined net worth is about $212,500. I'm 28 and she's 34. Our combined savings rate is about 40%, although it's a little skewed since I received some inheritance this year. On a normal month, my savings rate ranges from 20-30%. My wife's is lower because she puts a good chunk towards student loans which we don't count as savings.

Based on the 4% rule, I figure we need about $1.5 million to reach our FI number, but I like to be conservative and overestimate so I'm aiming for $2 - 2.5 million.

I feel like we do all of the right things and try to be as frugal as we can be in a high cost of living area (South Florida), but would love some advice on ways to improve our position.

I was toying with the idea of contributing more to my 401-k. Fortunately/Unfortunately I work for a small company that doesn't provide a match yet. However, I still contribute 5% to my 401-k. I consistently have money left over at the end of the month even after accounting for saving, investment in IRA and HSA, so I'm wondering if it makes more sense to allocated those trailing funds to my 401-k rather than putting the extra in savings.

Would absolutely love and appreciate any and all advice, recommendations, and/or reassurance. Thank you all!  


  

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Rental Property Investor · WI · Member since 2023 · 192 posts · 144 votes
4mo

Great post! Welcome to the forums. I think you are way ahead of the game. I say that for a few reasons. Yes, your savings rate and current net worth look good for your age but I say it more because of where you are at in life, the metrics you’re already tracking, having regular meetings to discuss finances, and having an end goal you are working towards. When I talk with others who are serious about this the most important thing you can do is pick the right partner. Someone who shares your vision or at least is supportive of the direction you are willing to go. Having your wife on board I think is huge!

My story is similar to yours I just got started a little bit later. I really started tracking everything around 30 and have been pushing ever since. My goal is also to hit about $2.5 million as my FI number. I am 40 now and we just hit $1.85 million for net worth, not all in investable assets but we are getting there. When I started tracking at 30 we were at $200 thousand. I was always someone like you doing the right thing and once I found out about FIRE I was able to leverage those good decisions to get started.

I will provide my perspective not that it’s right or wrong its simply what worked for us and how we are getting ahead.

  • Keep tracking your metrics. There are a ton of metrics I track but the two most important ones I feel are net worth and savings rate.
  • I also encourage you to set goals and continue regular meetings. I track my metrics weekly but I meet with my wife monthly. We review how our rental business is performing, then our personal finance metrics, then our performance against our retirement calculator.
    1. I built a calculator to track to the month when I will hit FI. Each month I track my performance against that goal to see if we are on track or not.
  • I also encourage you to set small goals that you can have wins on this journey. While it’s fun to go after FIRE its also really hard in the middle. You can do all the right things but nothing can replace time. Even if your income doubled you still need time for investing and compounding to take effect. This makes the grind hard. Having wins you can celebrate along the way can keep you going.
  • Next I encourage you to focus on creating margin. Margin between what you take home and what you spend. This is 100% a balancing act. I don’t encourage being as frugal as you can to create margin because life will be miserable and then it gets hard to stick to the plan. I like to follow Remit Sethi “Spend extravagantly on the things you love, and cut costs mercilessly on the things you don’t.” I work to cut my grocery costs by shopping at Aldi but I still go on crazy cool vacations. My wife cuts our hair but I still get great seats to sporting events. Don’ t go too frugal.
  • Just my perspective which isn’t for everyone but I don’t like holding on to cash. I try to invest my money as soon as I get it so it can start compounding. If you are like us because our savings rate is so high if an emergency comes up I can cover it. I also have sinking funds in a high yield savings account for Christmas, medical bills, vacations, and escrow. I can tap into those funds if need for emergency and then pay it back.
  • When it comes to investing I really think each person’s goals are different. How you should invest strongly depends on those goals. For most people looking to retire at 60 I would recommend keeping it simple following this order to take advantage of tax treatment.
    1. 401K company match
  • Roth IRA
  • HSA if possible
  • Back to 401K
  • Taxable Brokerage

For me that want’s to retire early I wanted investments that offered more flexibility today. For that reason I pivoted to real estate because I wanted investments that through off cashflow that I could use now. I still reinvest all of the money back into the business so it can grow but for me I needed to look into investments that could provide for me between now and age 60. My wife and I have roughly $700K in retirement accounts. If they double every 10 years it will grow past my goal of $2.5M. For that reason I am no longer investing in retirement accounts. I take all my margin and invest it into my real estate portfolio to pay it off. If I pay off my portfolio it will generate $11K per month in cashflow. The retirement accounts will then be extra when I hit 60.

  • As for what we invest in I try to keep it simple. I used to pick stocks and other investments. Now almost everything I have is 100% in and S&P 500 index fund; I prefer VOO. Our 401K's, Roth IRA's, HSA's, and taxable brokerages are all in the same type of investment. For me this keeps it simple.
  • As for what I would do next. If you are looking to buy a house and I was in your shoes. I would look to find a duplex. Something you could buy to start building equity but you could also rent out half to lower you housing costs. Lowering your houses expenses is huge towards helping you save. Eventually you could save up enough for another house and then rent out both sides. Once again keeping your housing costs low.

As you can see I also love talking about this stuff. If you ever want to talk further just DM me on BP. I would love to help answer any questions you may have.

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  • Rental Property Investor · WI · Member since 2023 · 192 posts · 144 votes
    4mo

    Great post! Welcome to the forums. I think you are way ahead of the game. I say that for a few reasons. Yes, your savings rate and current net worth look good for your age but I say it more because of where you are at in life, the metrics you’re already tracking, having regular meetings to discuss finances, and having an end goal you are working towards. When I talk with others who are serious about this the most important thing you can do is pick the right partner. Someone who shares your vision or at least is supportive of the direction you are willing to go. Having your wife on board I think is huge!

    My story is similar to yours I just got started a little bit later. I really started tracking everything around 30 and have been pushing ever since. My goal is also to hit about $2.5 million as my FI number. I am 40 now and we just hit $1.85 million for net worth, not all in investable assets but we are getting there. When I started tracking at 30 we were at $200 thousand. I was always someone like you doing the right thing and once I found out about FIRE I was able to leverage those good decisions to get started.

    I will provide my perspective not that it’s right or wrong its simply what worked for us and how we are getting ahead.

    • Keep tracking your metrics. There are a ton of metrics I track but the two most important ones I feel are net worth and savings rate.
    • I also encourage you to set goals and continue regular meetings. I track my metrics weekly but I meet with my wife monthly. We review how our rental business is performing, then our personal finance metrics, then our performance against our retirement calculator.
      1. I built a calculator to track to the month when I will hit FI. Each month I track my performance against that goal to see if we are on track or not.
    • I also encourage you to set small goals that you can have wins on this journey. While it’s fun to go after FIRE its also really hard in the middle. You can do all the right things but nothing can replace time. Even if your income doubled you still need time for investing and compounding to take effect. This makes the grind hard. Having wins you can celebrate along the way can keep you going.
    • Next I encourage you to focus on creating margin. Margin between what you take home and what you spend. This is 100% a balancing act. I don’t encourage being as frugal as you can to create margin because life will be miserable and then it gets hard to stick to the plan. I like to follow Remit Sethi “Spend extravagantly on the things you love, and cut costs mercilessly on the things you don’t.” I work to cut my grocery costs by shopping at Aldi but I still go on crazy cool vacations. My wife cuts our hair but I still get great seats to sporting events. Don’ t go too frugal.
    • Just my perspective which isn’t for everyone but I don’t like holding on to cash. I try to invest my money as soon as I get it so it can start compounding. If you are like us because our savings rate is so high if an emergency comes up I can cover it. I also have sinking funds in a high yield savings account for Christmas, medical bills, vacations, and escrow. I can tap into those funds if need for emergency and then pay it back.
    • When it comes to investing I really think each person’s goals are different. How you should invest strongly depends on those goals. For most people looking to retire at 60 I would recommend keeping it simple following this order to take advantage of tax treatment.
      1. 401K company match
    • Roth IRA
    • HSA if possible
    • Back to 401K
    • Taxable Brokerage

    For me that want’s to retire early I wanted investments that offered more flexibility today. For that reason I pivoted to real estate because I wanted investments that through off cashflow that I could use now. I still reinvest all of the money back into the business so it can grow but for me I needed to look into investments that could provide for me between now and age 60. My wife and I have roughly $700K in retirement accounts. If they double every 10 years it will grow past my goal of $2.5M. For that reason I am no longer investing in retirement accounts. I take all my margin and invest it into my real estate portfolio to pay it off. If I pay off my portfolio it will generate $11K per month in cashflow. The retirement accounts will then be extra when I hit 60.

    • As for what we invest in I try to keep it simple. I used to pick stocks and other investments. Now almost everything I have is 100% in and S&P 500 index fund; I prefer VOO. Our 401K's, Roth IRA's, HSA's, and taxable brokerages are all in the same type of investment. For me this keeps it simple.
    • As for what I would do next. If you are looking to buy a house and I was in your shoes. I would look to find a duplex. Something you could buy to start building equity but you could also rent out half to lower you housing costs. Lowering your houses expenses is huge towards helping you save. Eventually you could save up enough for another house and then rent out both sides. Once again keeping your housing costs low.

    As you can see I also love talking about this stuff. If you ever want to talk further just DM me on BP. I would love to help answer any questions you may have.

    • Fort Lauderdale, FL · Member since 2026 · 16 posts · 18 votes
      4mo

      @Paul Novak 
      Hey Paul!

      Thank you SO MUCH for this comment! It was incredibly helpful and well thought out, and I appreciate all of the advice more than you know.

      Firstly, I wanted to say CONGRATS on your insane net worth growth over the last 10 years. $200k to $1.85M is incredible! 

      Do you think your real estate investing had a lot to do with that? I've been looking into real estate for the same reason as you. While I like retirement accounts, they won't help me much if my goal is to FIRE by 45. And by FIRE I mean retire from my day job. I'll always work, of course, just on things that are more meaningful to me!

      I also invest in VOO! One of my favorite ETFs recently has been VUG and for index funds, I like VTSAX and VFIAX. I sort of try to throw money into those various ETFs and funds because I also don't like picking individual stocks. I'll do it every now and then for things I believe in, but individual stocks maybe make up less than 2% of my overall portfolio.

      Also, I love the Ramit Sethi reference! I read his book "I Will Teach You To Be Rich" and that's when I started using the conscious spending plan. His book suggests 20% of your income to guilt free spending every month, but I like saving and investing more so my guilt free spending every month is about 2-5% of my take home pay. 

      Definitely in the same boat though in terms of cutting things you don't care about and spending on things you do. For us, travel is huge so we spend a lot on cool trips. We also care a lot about health and fitness, so while we shop the deals at various grocery stores, buying pasture raised and organic food is inherently expensive. But I don't care about cars, clothes, makeup, etc so my wardrobe is pretty basic, I drive my grandma's old car that I bought from my grandpa for $1, and I don't spend really anything on beauty supplies. My wife also cuts my hair haha.

      It sounds like you and your wife have an incredible story! Have you been on the BP Money podcast yet? I would LOVE to hear more of your story! 

      Quick question: during that time from 30 to 40, did you see a jump in income from a traditional job as well aside from your real estate investments? 

      Anyway, I would love to keep chatting with you, and I appreciate all of the insight! Thank you again, Paul, and I look forward to connecting further!

  • Rental Property Investor · WI · Member since 2023 · 192 posts · 144 votes
    4mo

    For me real estate was a good option.  What I am about to say might sound funny but it's why I pivoted into real estate.  When I started investing outside of retirement accounts I started in a taxable brokerage looking at dividends.  My goal was to put enough in my account that I could live from the dividends and not touch the principle.  It was around that time when I learned that index funds were the way to go so I did some basic math on VOO.  At that time VOO was paying an annual dividend yield of 1.51%  Working the math backwards if I wanted $11K per month or $132K per year I would need around $8.7M dollars invested.  Now why I say this is funny is because if my portfolio was really $8M I could easily draw on principle and be fine but again I was still learning, I didn't know about the 4% rule yet, and that number just seemed crazy to me.  As many other people have also told me VOO is a growth fund more than a dividend fund.  If I was going to do that strategy I should be invested in a different fund.  Again I was learning.  All of this to say $8M seemed like to big of a hill to climb at the time.

    Now for real estate.  I read the book Rich Dad Poor Dad at the same time.  I was attracted to the concept of running a business where I could leverage tax deductions as a way to invest faster and grow my money sooner.  Also running the numbers like above.  I was able to buy my first duplex with $65K for down payment and renovations.  This investment out of the gates generated $950 per month cash flow.  Again looking at what it would take for me to generate $950 per month from VOO dividends I would have needed $754K.  To me $65K invested for $950 a month cashflow seemed to be the better option.  For me to get to $11K per month actually seemed reasonable.  This really motivated me.

    I will also say about real estate that I get tax deductions that I couldn't get from stocks.  I also get to use leverage to grow my net worth.  Not to go too deep but my career has been in manufacturing management where I have delt with building policies and procedures, hiring/firing, and dealing with difficult conversations.  I like working with people, and I love doing handy work.  I felt all of these skills aligned well to running a real estate business.

    Now that I have been at this for a while I have grown to appreciate the stability of rents and the diversification this has given my portfolio.  My rentals have become the base for my early retirement and my goal is to let the retirement accounts help me deal with inflation and fund my extra fun later in retirement.

    To be honest I am happy with where we are at.  I am proud of the rentals we own, and we have great tenants.  I have had very little turnover and no issues with our tenants.  Our portfolio isn't big, it's 6 properties 8 doors.  We don't plan to expand we only plan to pay it off.  With rent increases and debt paydown we will hit $11K per month.

    Now for the truth, with as good as the market has been the past few years we might have been better off just investing all that money in VOO vs real estate which would have been completely passive.  For me I like that I am making income but don't have to sell the asset to get the income.  I also like the diversification like I said above.  Personally I love real estate you just need to know that it's going to take effort and you need to be ready to run a business.  For us it takes maybe 1-2 hours a month for me to manage my books and I probably get a call once every 3-4 months.

    I have been on BP Money twice and I have also been on the main channel twice.  We actually had Dave and Henry up to our house and went golfing with them last year when they did their Midwest Cashflow Tour.

  • MD/DC · Member since 2024 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    4mo

    Love to hear from folks with this insight and if I could only know how long I will live it would be so much easier. @Jenna Cheramie you would probably like White Coat Investor stuff, don't have to be a physician but his info and forum people are solid gold. The things that stick out to me especially for those with early FIRE goals include 1. the impact of inflation which over past 6 years still has me aghast, 2. The amount of years your FI number has to last 3. The amount of returns you can expect on your FI number over said years. The other things I tend to feel are important are to consider the loss from lack of growth in "savings" if those funds are in HYSA etc and the value of Roth or BDR IRA. Happy investing!

  • Ashish AcharyaBusiness Member
    CPA, CFP®, PFS · Sarasota, FL · Member since 2017 · 5k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    4mo

    Hey Jenna, the insight here is great and Paul gave a really comprehensive response especially relating to the tax treatment order for accounts and the real estate perspective.

    One thing worth adding from a tax planning standpoint that ties directly into your question about the 401k versus savings decision at your income level and savings rate, the order of operations really does matter. Maxing out tax-advantaged accounts like your HSA first, then IRA, then 401k before taxable savings is generally the right sequence because every dollar in those accounts is either growing tax-free or tax-deferred, which compounds significantly over the decades you have ahead of you.

    From a real estate angle and something we see a lot is as you get closer to your house purchase goal, house hacking your first property could let you get into real estate with owner-occupant financing while offsetting your housing costs. 

    Definitely worth looping in a CPA who can look at your full financial picture before you make any big moves, especially as you start layering in real estate alongside your retirement accounts. You want to make sure the tax strategy is working together across all of it, not just in pieces. Happy to connect!

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