Rental Applicants: All kinds of crazy!

Rental Applicants: All kinds of crazy!

Investor · Southeast, MI · Member since 2012 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes

I recently received a call from someone about a house I have for rent. The call was from another state. In the past, I didn't receive many out of state calls because people were leaving Michigan by the truckload and few were entering. Now our economy is getting better, so people seem to be moving back.

This particular guy saw pictures on the internet and said he loved the house. He asked a lot of good questions and seemed to have it all together. He wanted the house, but wouldn't be in town for another week when his company transferred him and asked me if I could hold the house for him. I replied that I can't hold it without a deposit. He said that he knew the area since he used to live here and would take the house and wanted to send me a deposit. I told him to hold his horses. I emailed him an application and told him to mail it back with the fee. He was afraid the house would be gone, so he emailed me the application and check stubs and sent the fee by Western Union. I was impressed with how fast I had everything.

When I received the application, everything looked good. Solid job with good pay. Next, I ran his credit and eviction check. Uh oh. Eleven court cases filed by a previous landlord. (Yes, 11!!!) Before I knew it, he was calling me. He really wanted this houses. I asked him about the adress that came up on the eviction report, but wasn't on the application. Total silence. Next he went on with a bunch of excuses about what had happened. Said he was late a "few times" and they were fast to file papers, but he "always paid them". I told him there was no way I could rent to him based on this past history.

This is when he jumped on the train to crazytown. He started screamimg about how I had "taken his money" (the application fee) and was going to "steal his identity". (As if anyone would want the identity of a deadbeat). I told him that I run a legitimate business and he has nothing to worry about. He then started crying and sobbing about how no one will give him a chance, the economy was bad, his relative was murdered, he lost his job, he had to sell his car, he goes to church now, he has changed, blah blah blah. I just listened to him vent. I didn't want him to vandalize my house when he got to town.

After a few minutes, he calmed down. I again explained to him that I have certain criteria and he didn't meet it. It finally sunk in and he seemed normal. I'm glad I order those eviction reports. I don't want someone in my house and then have them go cuckoo for cocoa puffs.

Anyone else have any crazy applicants?

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Portland, ME · Member since 2012 · 616 posts · 550 votes
13y

I've had a lot of mothers call me looking for an apartment for their sons. When I politely tell them I want to talk to the young man himself and that he must have reliable income, they get upset. One hung up the phone on me. I think they're trying to get a lazy kid out of the house and make him my problem.

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  • Orlando, FL · Member since 2009 · 2k+ posts · 282 votes
    13y
    Originally posted by Steve Babiak:
    Originally posted by Bienes Raices:
    ...
    I told another person she was denied and she called me back and demanded to have the piece of paper upon which I had written her social & DL#. ...

    I believe you have to keep records of authorizations to pull the credit reports for like 5 years, in case the applicant challenges the existence of that inquiry. That arises from the statute of limitations of the FCRA: From Wikipedia:

    Originally posted by Wikipedia on FCRA:
    ...the statute of limitations is the earlier of two years from discovery of the violation or five years from the date of the violation. (15 U.S.C. § 1681p)

    I have all the authorizations--I just happened to write down the info on a piece of paper from her DL and SS card as well to make sure it matched.

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    Rental Property Investor · Baltimore County Maryland and Tampa Florida · Member since 2013 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    12y

    I've also had people looking at my vacancies for someone else.

    I had one lady call to inquire about an apt in one of my duplexes. When I told her the rent, deposit and other basic info, she practically started yelling at me about the price of rent. She said it was too high and I even expect them to keep the grass trimmed after that rent? She went on to say that she's seen the For Rent sign out there for a while and the high rent was why it wasn't renting.

    Little did she know, there was the perfect overlap in vacancies for the two apartments in that property, so it only looked like the same place was up for rent that long. I knew I could get the rent I was asking, so I simply said "well, looks like my place just isn't a good fit for you. It's as simple as that. I'm more than happy to pass on your info to other landlords if you'd like though." That last sentence seemed to simmer down her angry soul. lol

  • Involved In Real Estate · Palm Springs, CA · Member since 2011 · 144 posts · 78 votes
    12y
    Originally posted by Johann Jells:
    My favorite app was a recently divorced cop with credit in the 500's. That's all I needed in my building where I also live, a broke depressed guy with a gun!

    @Johann Jells Well, at least he wasn't a postal worker with a gun!

  • Real Estate Agent · Columbia, SC · Member since 2012 · 112 posts · 106 votes
    12y

    I hear this sort of thing all the time. The other day I had a lady call asking about one of our low income houses. She explained that she was being stalked by a person who was trying to poison her. She said he would go to the store before she got there and spray the box of cereal she was about to buy with poison. She said he already killed her mom and the police did nothing about it. (Listening to this, I'm in stunned silence)...she goes on to say that she saw the ad for the house for $525, and that she had been living in a hotel and this month she had already paid $1200 to stay there. According to her math- "she could have been had that house". She went on to say that if the owner of the property would not accept her application that she hoped he "would just burn up to a crisp" because she had a legitimate police report saying someone was poisoning her. That apparently is reason enough to rent to her based on her logic. Oh, and she can't stay in the hotel room any longer because the stalker was putting poison gas through the light fixture. Yea...all kinds of crazy. She hasn't actually applied yet....

  • Sheboygan, WI · Member since 2013 · 107 posts · 18 votes
    12y

    @Chris DeTreville I have had people work for me who began telling stories like that. Scary when you have to let them go. Those kind of applicants make me want to use a pm and not deal with them directly!

  • Real estate investor · Las Vegas · Member since 2013 · 798 posts · 171 votes
    12y

    I knew where this story was going as soon as I read about how concerned they were that the place would be gone and wanting to lock it up right away. I am always interested when someone is overly excited about moving in quickly because w/ all of the tenant rights, it can be hell to get rid of them. It is sad that they have more rights than the actual owners!

  • Rehabber · Smyrna, GA · Member since 2013 · 864 posts · 510 votes
    12y

    "Anyone else have any crazy applicants?"

    This is like asking "Anyone else have rental property?"

  • Contractor · Northville, NY · Member since 2013 · 74 posts · 14 votes
    12y
    What companies is everyone using to do their background/ eviction reports?
  • Real Estate Investor · Columbus, OH · Member since 2013 · 114 posts · 21 votes
    12y

    All kinds of crazy applicants (and callers)!

    When the pet policy of no cats, 1 small dog on a case by case basis was explained to a caller:

    "....let me ask you this. You allow a small dog but no cats. What's the difference?"

    When a caller was asked if he had ever been evicted:

    "not for about 2 years"

    When an applicant was asked to provide complete residential history beyond her current residence of 12 months:

    Applicant: "this is the only place we have ever rented together"

    me: "ok, but where did you live before that?"

    Applicant: "this is the only place we have ever lived together"

    Me: "that will be a problem"

    Applicant: "Well I guess if you need that you can just rent to someone else!"

    Yep, I think I will. 1 week later she calls back to ask about her application.

    Applicant: "I was checking on my application"

    Me: "You're application was denied due to insufficient residential history."

    Applicant: "That doesn't make sense. This is the only place we have ever rented."

    Me: "Again, this is not what was asked for. The application asked where you have LIVED for the last 5 years. You refused to provide that information so your application was denied."

    Applicant: "this is the only place we have ever rented."

  • Real Estate Investor · Columbus, OH · Member since 2013 · 114 posts · 21 votes
    12y

    also.....

    4 of the last 5 applicants drove themselves to my property. After completing the application they presented their driver's license which had plastered all over it "non-driver" (their driving privileges were suspended).

  • Retired Landlord/Author · Commerce Township, MI · Member since 2012 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    12y

    There are many things to take into consideration during this part of the screening process and the most important factor is the "discrimination" factor. Even though this is your home, purchased with your own money, you cannot disqualify someone because of their race, color, religion, gender, children, etc., and day by day the list gets longer and longer, so you have to be very careful in whom you choose and HOW you choose them.

    The very first thing one needs to do in selecting a tenant is to do a credit check! ALWAYS! Oh, there will be times when a family appears poor and seems so nice and you know they really can't afford the constant application fee's, not to mention PER PERSON! And you will have a tendency to feel sorry for them and not charge them a fee but foot the bill yourself, "just this once" you say to yourself. But....DON'T DO IT! If the people are too poor to pay for an application fee which covers the credit check, they are too poor to rent your home! Also, it's very easy to start feeling sorry for people having to dish out money for application fees every time they apply for a rental home. But, if that is the case, then there must be something wrong. They must have evictions or law suits or bad credit and nine times out of ten, they most likely know it, but are just hoping that you might be the landlord who doesn't do the credit check.

    Nancy Neville

  • Investor · Middletown, NJ · Member since 2008 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    12y

    This is a fascinating thread and it never ceases to amaze me about the kind of people landlords come up against. I once had an applicant, a 32 year old woman, who was very sweet and polite, had 2 kids, was pregnant and had worked for 7 years at Walmart. She also got rental assistance. She put all this on her application.

    Her employment checked out, but I wasn't able to reach her previous landlord. In the meantime, I was able to speak with her caseworker, who informed me that the woman had 6 other children living with her. What?? I told the caseworker the woman never mentioned the other children, and I was told that she was afraid to do so, since no one would rent to her when they found out. I had an easy out, since my application states that fraudulent information is grounds for rejection.

  • Retired Landlord/Author · Commerce Township, MI · Member since 2012 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    12y

    Good girl Aly! Whew....put everything in writing...just sayin!

  • Investor · Fort Lauderdale, FL · Member since 2012 · 1k+ posts · 465 votes
    12y

    Got an interesting call today.

    Said he's interesting in the condo I have available for rent, OK...

    Said he's right outside and just read through the data sheet I provide (I have a box on the sign with some flyers with the same basic information online). Sounds good...

    He wants to look at the place and is ready to move this weekend. I said I am not there but can meet him there at a mutually convenient day and time.

    He said he's renting nearby, and was walking his dog, and while his dog was "dropping some heat onto my sign post", he saw the flyer box and got curious.

    I said if you looked at the flyer it does say no dog cats only for this property as it's the HOA rule and nothing I can do about it but I would appreciate your dog not dropping heat on my for rent sign post!

  • Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2013 · 37 posts · 7 votes
    12y

    I have had all types of crazy tenants when I temporarily had someone managing my properties while I was away for a few months.

    Application fee, a very thorough background check, and a holding deposit, usually keeps the crazies and deadbeats away.

  • Investor · Milford, CT · Member since 2012 · 592 posts · 285 votes
    12y

    After taking down their information. I ask them if they have any questions. Typically the ones that don't have much to say and just want to see the place I already know there will be a problem. The ones that seem interested and ask good questions about size, amenities, utilities, etc... I know are serious.

    Then I actually go into a well thoughtout questionnaire/checklist I keep for records that helps me prescreen and actually use during the screening process.

    Finally I dictate my terms and conditions. No Pets, No Smoke, 1st months rent plus a months security, credit and background check will be required as well as income verification.

    Usually by this time I have a good idea if a good fit or not before we even meet or visit the property.

  • Investor · Fort Lauderdale, FL · Member since 2012 · 1k+ posts · 465 votes
    12y

    Believe it or not, I got a call yesterday, Thanksgiving day, at 11am from someone who says they want to see my place for rent, says it's perfect for them.

    I asked them a couple of questions, they have an accent and I asked where they are from. Pakistan he said but his native tongue is Russian.

    I asked him when he needs to move he said immediately, same day.

    I said no, one has to apply and be subjected to a screening and being it's a holiday weekend, it might take a bit longer, and a lease has to be signed. I said Thanksgiving day is a tough day, but I would be happy to send them an application form, and after they read through it and have the information available, I can schedule a showing for today.

    I asked for an email address. He gave me some weird address with a domain extension of ".RU" as in Russia. I said you are still using a Russian email account for your US correspondence? He said yes...I asked him if he is a legal resident he said he has a green card. I said to him "no problem, after you reviewed the application form and screening procedure, call me back and schedule to see the property, but bring your passport with the permanent resident visa and driver's license".

    No call back.

  • Real Estate Agent · Cedar Falls, IA · Member since 2009 · 38 posts · 17 votes
    12y

    I receive text from people interested in my units. I love when you start to answer questions then you get 500 text back about why there life is crazy and they just tell it like they see it, oh yeah and how honest they are, and how there are going to make the best tenants. If you get over 10 texts it might become a dis qualifier.

    Had a guy look at a house one time. I told him rent was $750 and he started giving me the stare down and telling me how the rent was way to high, nobody would rent a house for that much. asked him what his current rent was. it was $800.

  • Investor · Avilla, IN · Member since 2013 · 796 posts · 769 votes
    12y

    Pretty sure I once received applications from the parents of these guys!! Well it may have been two girls that looked like them. Either way......YUCK!

    http://youtu.be/OhjKNmgsQmM

  • Property Manager · Livonia, MI · Member since 2011 · 4k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    12y

    just the other day i got an application for a woman and two kids. Rent is 995 and she makes 1600 before taxes. The attached plea letter also stated she was evicted just a few months ago.

  • Hanford, CA · Member since 2013 · 5k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    12y

    We have gotten a lot of people who are looking for rental because they "let their house go into foreclosure" when it dropped 50%. We have a rental rule of no foreclosures sooner than 5 years. If it was a while back and due to a divorce we will consider it.


  • Dallas, TX · Member since 2013 · 4k+ posts · 744 votes
    12y

    I think all landlords should screen their tenants and ask questions. A tenant contacted me Friday wanting me to check out this landlord of an SFR that he was renting, and she said that things did not add up. I did my due diligence, and the home owner is the owner, and he was in foreclosure, owed back taxes on the home, and remove the red tape the marshals put on the door, and when I call him and told him upfront why I was calling he got upset and said I have no right to question him about his home and when I told him, I had the facts he got real nice, and I told him the lady that wanted to rent the home will pass.


    Joe Gore
  • Investor · Vancouver, WA · Member since 2013 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    12y

    From the telephone screening...

    Me: Have you ever been evicted?

    Him: Yeah, gobs of times!

    Me: [Already seeing this in the unlawful detainer book printed by our county rental association - his name listed seven times in less than one year.] Thank you for your honesty. But we can't rent to you. You don't meet our minimum criteria.

    Him: Okay! Have a nice day!

  • Property Manager · Livonia, MI · Member since 2011 · 4k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    12y
    Originally posted by Elizabeth C.:
    We have gotten a lot of people who are looking for rental because they "let their house go into foreclosure" when it dropped 50%. We have a rental rule of no foreclosures sooner than 5 years. If it was a while back and due to a divorce we will consider it.

    This would not make sense to me. 90% of mine are exactly what you described.

  • Dallas, TX · Member since 2013 · 4k+ posts · 744 votes
    12y
    George,

    I agree with you. I wonder how many landlords have a foreclosure or how many landlord is renting their foreclosure home and not telling the tenant. They could lose their rent money if the marshal comes calling?

    Joe Gore
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