BiggerPockets Real Estate Conference: Is it time?

BiggerPockets Real Estate Conference: Is it time?

Joshua D.Pro Member
BiggerPockets Founder · HI · Member since 2008 · 16k+ posts · 5k+ votes

One of my goals over the past 6 years has been to produce a real estate investing conference unlike any we've seen before. I believe that BiggerPockets is in a unique position to create a conference that changes the game . . .

While most real estate investing events, seminars, clubs, conferences, etc., revolve around the guru crowd, I think the REI world is longing for something different. Just as we changed the game by creating a community dominated by actual investors and other real estate professionals with their feet on the ground, I think we can and must do the same with a BiggerPockets conference.

With that in mind, I've been brainstorming this thing for a long time now, and have had a few false starts, but I've connected with someone that I believe can help us put on a hugely successful event. He has experience putting on various large and successful conventions, and we've begun to talk about how to proceed with one for BiggerPockets.

That said, while I'm confident in my ideas, I would love to get yours as well!

So . . . here are a few questions I've got for you....

1) If BiggerPockets put on a conference, would you want to attend?
2) Would you be willing to travel (fly) to attend such an event?
3) Do you think 2 days would be adequate for a first shot at it?
4) What kinds of ideas do you have for sessions?
5) What would a BP conference look like to you?
6) Of the real estate and other events that you've attended, what is the one thing that you've liked the most?
7) The least?

Feel free to add anything else to your post . . . I'm just looking to determine the level of enthusiasm and to get some ideas from all of you.

So . . . are you psyched?

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Investor · Round Rock, TX · Member since 2010 · 8k+ posts · 4k+ votes
15y

Sounds awesome Josh!

1. I would definitely attend.

2. Yup...you would have to if you wanted to attend

3. 2 days is probably fine. I would love for it to be longer, but that is probably great for a first event

4. The sessions could have people present on different topics. There are tons of investors on here and I am sure you could start a thread to solicit interest from potential presenters. You could then have people vote on who they want to see present the most or some such

5. Half presentations and half mixers/networking. Perhaps a few hours of presentation followed by structure networking followed by more presentations followed by more networking

6. I think the best events are the ones that have people hit the highlights during their presentations and encourage networking. Hours and hours of lecture doesn't make for a very appealing event IMO

7. Events where people pitch stuff in their presentation or are non-experts on subjects with an agenda

I think one of the big things missing from the experience you are looking to create are local groups too. If BP could structure leaders for local groups and coordinate times for club meetings that would make the whole experience much more powerful IMO. I have met with many BP people by phone and in person and it adds a whole new dimension to the networking. Periodic structured BP club meetings would be very powerful.

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  • Lexington, KY · Member since 2009 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    15y

    Since everyone else chimed in on location I like the idea of Vegas!

  • Wholesaler · Melbourne, FL · Member since 2010 · 72 posts · 59 votes
    15y

    1) If BiggerPockets put on a conference, would you want to attend? I would consider it.
    2) Would you be willing to travel (fly) to attend such an event? A short distance. I would not even consider travel to the West Coast. I'd probably go as far as Phoenix, or Denver.
    3) Do you think 2 days would be adequate for a first shot at it? Yes. Shorter time periods help keep events focused, and relevant. Longer events encourage rambling speakers, disjointed topics, and confusion.
    4) What kinds of ideas do you have for sessions? I would narrow the focus of the event to nor more than two or three important, related topics, or a "theme". Just a thought, but there is an abundance of information on buying distressed- particularly financially distressed properties out there. There are other ways to enter the real estate market, there are other considerations-- something like a "property management" or "landlording" conference might be of use. I'm assuming the members of BP are like me- seasoned investors. We know how to buy 'em, and are frankly kind of tired of the lastest tactic. How about some in-depth market analysis topics, an economic summit, or nuts and bolts of ownership topic?

    5) What would a BP conference look like to you? I'd like seminars, breakout sessions, networking, and a touch of trade-show. I wouldn't mind seeing vendors, and I would attend as a potential vendor. The one caveat-- and I'll warn you as an experienced club owner and event sponsor: keep "training", "trainers", and the like OUT. REAL services related to real estate: agents and brokers (re or mortgage), contractors, appraisers, managers-- fine.

    6) Of the real estate and other events that you've attended, what is the one thing that you've liked the most? Networking / contacts I made.

    7) The least? The peddling of products, such as CD's, books, boot-camps, coaching, etc.

  • Investor · Round Rock, TX · Member since 2010 · 8k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    15y

    I agree with the advanced topics answers...many that are on the site all of the time see the same questions over and over. A day for this to cover the basics and 1-2 days for other more advanced topics would be useful.

    I also like the idea of a thematic approach to the conferences. There could be a "note conference" and a "subject-to" conference. If you they were put on quarterly or some such this would be quite useful, but I am not sure how tough the logistics will be for BP.

    All the more reason to have more local stuff and meetings.

  • Joshua D.Pro Member
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    BiggerPockets Founder · HI · Member since 2008 · 16k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    15y

    Thanks for the feedback James and Paul.

    James - it sounds like you really need to get out and play some golf!

    Paul - I'm with you all the way on the "trainers" . . . vendors are one thing, the other guys -- well, I think I've said my piece.

  • Landlord · Seattle, WA · Member since 2010 · 3k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    15y

    1) If BiggerPockets put on a conference, would you want to attend?
    Yes, if possible.
    2) Would you be willing to travel (fly) to attend such an event?
    Sure
    3) Do you think 2 days would be adequate for a first shot at it?
    2 days would be good
    4) What kinds of ideas do you have for sessions?
    I would want time to meet other BP members, I would want to hear from our member experts on a variety of topics that they are worked with. Flips, wholesale, notes, etc. Something for novices and more experienced.
    5) What would a BP conference look like to you?
    There would be no gurus or guru products being promoted, just worthwhile information and takeaways and the opportunity to meet real investors and others in the real estate profession.
    6) Of the real estate and other events that you've attended, what is the one thing that you've liked the most?
    Solid content with no upsell
    7) The least?
    Content that consists of nothing more than bullet points designed to upsell further education.

    The group may be to big, but it would nice to have some member introductions to break the ice.

  • Landlord · Seattle, WA · Member since 2010 · 3k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    15y

    It would be great to have a panel of BP experts in various areas and an opportunity to ask questions.

  • Landlord · Houston, TX · Member since 2010 · 23 posts · 1 vote
    15y

    1) If BiggerPockets put on a conference, would you want to attend? Most definitely!
    2) Would you be willing to travel (fly) to attend such an event? yes
    3) Do you think 2 days would be adequate for a first shot at it? 2 days would be perfect for me.
    4) What kinds of ideas do you have for sessions? I would love to here from the experts here
    5) What would a BP conference look like to you? Presentation from top BP contributors that addresses both newbie and experienced investors.
    6) Of the real estate and other events that you've attended, what is the one thing that you've liked the most?I have never attended one
    7) The least?

  • Investor · Albuquerque, NM · Member since 2009 · 118 posts · 43 votes
    15y
    Originally posted by Bryan Hancock:
    If you have something central like in Kansas City or some such that seems the most logical to me.

    Wow, I knew KC was pretty central geographically, but had no idea at how close it also is to the weighted center based on population. Check the bottom half of this page if you are into maps. http://gislounge.com/us-census-2000-population-trends-mapped/ Watch the center running WSW.

    To answer the post, I think it is a killer idea and would be excited to go if I could afford it.

  • Rehabber / Flipper · Simi Valley, CA · Member since 2010 · 597 posts · 259 votes
    15y

    I love the idea of a BP real estate conference.

    There could be sessions that are assigned to different "tracks", such as Rentals, Flipping, Notes, Commercial, Land, Lending, etc. Each session could also be tagged as Beginner, Intermediate, or Advanced (or maybe just Beginner and Advanced).

    Sessions could be:
    - Talks (where someone gives a talk on a topic, with a short time for Q&A afterward)
    - Roundtables (where a topic is presented and people sit around a table and discuss their experiences and opinions on specific aspects of that topic - usually moderated by one or two people)
    - Tutorials (a more hands-on interactive session where the attendees are able to work on specific details of the topic with the guidance of the "instructor")

    There could be an exhibitor section, for companies such as:
    - Property Managers
    - Hard Money Lenders
    - Bulk REO Asset Managers
    - Developers
    - Contractors
    - Mortgage Brokers
    - Note Brokers
    - etc.

  • Renter · seattle, WA · Member since 2011 · 59 posts · 2 votes
    15y

    1) If BiggerPockets put on a conference, would you want to attend?

    YES

    2) Would you be willing to travel (fly) to attend such an event?

    YES

    3) Do you think 2 days would be adequate for a first shot at it?

    3-4 would be better

    4) What kinds of ideas do you have for sessions?

    I would hope it would be useful for newer people who are not as well established in the game as others.

    5) 6) 7)
    Never been to any before so dont know.

  • Residential Real Estate Broker · Grand Blanc, MI · Member since 2008 · 885 posts · 316 votes
    15y

    1) If BiggerPockets put on a conference, would you want to attend?

    Most definitely.

    2) Would you be willing to travel (fly) to attend such an event?

    Yes.

    3) Do you think 2 days would be adequate for a first shot at it?

    I think 2 days would be perfect. Any more than that and the purpose begins to loose meaning.

    4) What kinds of ideas do you have for sessions?

    Break-out sessions such as: lease optioning, owner financing, landlording, wholesaling, flipping, HM lending, etc. The issue would be that I'd want to attend all of them!

    5) What would a BP conference look like to you?

    Tons of networking.

    6) Of the real estate and other events that you've attended, what is the one thing that you've liked the most?

    The networking and exchanging strategies of what's working and not working in various markets.

    7) The least?

    The guru hype. I absolutely hate that part. In past conferences, I've been known to walk out of the room when they start their sales pitches.

    One last comment: I think a location more centrally located will draw a bigger turn out. With Denver being on the list of locations, it is the furthest east, relatively speaking. If the conference were more centrally located there would likely be a better representation of east and west. I wouldn't cross St. Louis or Chicago off the list as possible locations.

  • Sean H.Pro Member
    Flipper/Rehabber · Pittsburgh, PA · Member since 2010 · 224 posts · 75 votes
    15y

    1) If BiggerPockets put on a conference, would you want to attend?

    --most definitely

    2) Would you be willing to travel (fly) to attend such an event?

    --yes

    3) Do you think 2 days would be adequate for a first shot at it?

    --I don't see why not

    4) What kinds of ideas do you have for sessions?

    --as others have mentioned, some geared towards the "Getting Started" crowd, others aimed at the advanced investors, that way everyone gets something out of it. I am specifically into buy and hold, flips, and commercial, but would not mind checking out a "intro to short sales" or "getting started in notes" to broaden my horizons.

    5) What would a BP conference look like to you?

    --Many knowledgeable investors, sharing information. Organized on useful content, not fluff.

    6) Of the real estate and other events that you've attended, what is the one thing that you've liked the most?

    --have not attended a real estate conference

    Some final comments, mainly location. As anyone who has been in business for a period of time quickly learns, you will never make everyone happy. Pick a location that gives the BP conference the best chance to thrive and don't worry about the people who feel ostracized because it's on the east/west coast. The same people will find something else to complain about anyways, do not let them weigh too heavily.

    That being said, I am anxiously awaiting the formal announcement! Good luck!

  • Investor · Round Rock, TX · Member since 2010 · 8k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    15y

    Denver is reasonably centrally located and I am assuming that this would be the easiest venue for Josh to organize. Denver is really nice too....would love to see it there!

  • Property Manager · Dublin, OH · Member since 2009 · 1k+ posts · 291 votes
    15y

    I don´t want to rouse all of you from slumber but there some more questions.

    1. How many people in these conference 25? 100? Much more? If we dont raise more then 10 people in regional meetings in strong areas like TX so I guess there should be a problem for a nationwide meeting.
    2. Following my first question is a next formidable obstacle the money what our member need to come for this event. Some or even the most have not this for a flight, a car, the hotel/motel and feeding.

    For the 20 - 30 best members from BP I see no problem but for the remain?
    Don´t get me wrong this is a very good idea but after reconsidering I have my doubts.

    -Uwe

  • Investor · Round Rock, TX · Member since 2010 · 8k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    15y

    I actually think we would have much more sustained participation in the BP forums with structured meeting support from BP. This would help everyone get to know each other more and would likely encourage participation and deal partnering.

  • Developer · Garland, TX · Member since 2008 · 8k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    15y

    Uve, I've wondered about this too, but it does not need to be big or expensive to be successful, in fact, if only the people who have responded in this thread came, I'd stil go and am confident I'd be happy with the return on investment of my time and money.

    Also this kind of event could be a tipping point for BP to go to another level.

  • Commercial Loan Officer · Southern Maine, ME · Member since 2009 · 782 posts · 415 votes
    15y

    It can't hurt to try, and as Jon pointed out, it doesn't have to be an expensive or even a large event to be successful.

    Costs can be cut by planning the event at a full-service hotel with convention rooms and that has a shuttle service to the airport. This would save members on having to rent cars and everything we would need (food, beer, booze, food, and oh yeah, meeting space) would be all under one roof.

    I'd go just to meet the people who have said they'd go. The information I'd learn there would just be a bonus.

  • Home Stager · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2009 · 11 posts · 3 votes
    15y

    I recently attended (and helped coordinate) the second Real Estate Staging Association International Conference in Las Vegas. We held it at the Treasure Island Resort & Casino. I have to say, I was resistant, at first, to holding our conference at the TI, but I became a convert once I saw what a great job they did for us. Plus, the rooms were recently upgraded so they are quite nice. We sold out our event at 350 attendees. The TI can accomodate up to about 650 I think. The cost to attend was $350-$450 pp depending on your status and most meals were provided including a very nice awards banquet.

    People will find the money to attend if they feel they are going to learn a lot or propel their business forward. Its an investment in growing your business.

    Las Vegas is definitely one of the least expensive places to hold a conference, for both hotels & air fare. It is also somewhat centrally located, easy to get to and many people like the idea of going to Vegas for nightlife, shows, casinos, etc. Plus they have a massive foreclosure market if anyone's interested.

    With our conference we found the best mix of speakers to be presenters with solid hands on information on how to build your business, a speaker or two on how to run or expand your business, a motivational speaker or two and a celebrity, either from within the industry or a TV or film celeb. Panel of Experts where attendees get to ask questions are always popular. Websites, SEO and social media are big topics. Attendees really get turned off if they feel they are being sold something (book, CD, class) during the presentation. Attendees have spent money to hear the speaker; they should have to spend more money to get the speaker's information. That's what vendor booths and tables are for. If you can get enough vendors and sponsors, it will help off set some of the costs to make the event less expensive.

    I would suggest 2.5 days based on our experience. A networking/no-host-bar event the first evening, a day each of speakers on the 2 additional days. Each speaker gets 1 hour with 15 minute breaks in between.

    A problem with break-out sessions is you must repeat each one several times to make sure every one has a chance to attend all the sessions they want to hear.

    Contact me if you want more info.

  • Investor · Windsor Mill, MD · Member since 2010 · 30 posts · 11 votes
    15y

    I would attend the conference if it explored the current market. I'm not sure the conventional investment techniques are still apply in this climate. I've only done one deal, so I don't qualify as anything extaordinary. But I'd love to see a panel of experts in economics and real estate debate the influence of the current political atmosphere, the disbanding of Fannie and Freddy and what we should expect in the next 5 years, and of course the budding financial markets that are popping up such as Private Lending, and etc. Oh and the current trends on renting vs buying and any predictions.

    I'd also be willing to volunteer any administrative help you might need.

  • Note Investor · Pasadena, CA · Member since 2009 · 849 posts · 544 votes
    15y

    1) If BiggerPockets put on a conference, would you want to attend?

    Yes.

    2) Would you be willing to travel (fly) to attend such an event?

    Yes.

    3) Do you think 2 days would be adequate for a first shot at it?

    Yes.

    4) What kinds of ideas do you have for sessions?

    I think if the conference followed the website (i.e., just a bunch of real investors looking to help others without trying to sell anything), then any topic involving real estate would be fine with me.

    5) What would a BP conference look like to you?

    Saturday: 4 to 6 classes that are 1-2 hours each, lunch break, social/networking hour.

    Sunday: 2 to 4 sessions, lunch, open discussion/question forum.

    6) Of the real estate and other events that you've attended, what is the one thing that you've liked the most?

    Real speakers that weren't motivated to sell anything. I have enjoyed "wants & needs" where you announce a deal you have or a type of deal you want.

    7) The least?

    Sales pitches.

  • Rental Property Investor · Mercer Island, WA · Member since 2008 · 22k+ posts · 14k+ votes
    15y

    Being in Denver, too, that would be the easiest for me. Denver is a hub for both United and Frontier, and Southwest has quite a few flights.

    That said, I'm always up for any reasonable excuse to go to Vegas. Doesn't really even have to be that reasonable.

    Just getting to meet folks would be great, as far as I'm concerned.

    Knowing Josh, its a non-issue, but I would not want to see anybody who's name you would recognize as a guru. I used to go to the CAREI convention here in Denver, and it can be somewhat informative. But its a pitch-fest and every speaker is someone who's selling a course or more. Once you've heard 's pitch once, you've heard all you're going to hear without paying the piper.

  • Real Estate Investor · Boca Raton , FL · Member since 2010 · 69 posts · 17 votes
    15y

    As much as I agree with Jon about Vegas, I'd go Denver. Of course being on the east coast Vegas is a hike and I find I am less productive when I am at a conference there. Go figure;).

    As far as what I would like to see from a BP conference would be exactly what Mitch said. No sales BS but an expo with all the typical vendors we would use from all over the country. Guest speakers would be a must. Not so kiyosaki but real world like a Keith Cunningham. So long as its not completely on the west coast, I would attend

  • Investor · Round Rock, TX · Member since 2010 · 8k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    15y

    Keith Cunningham would be an awesome pull! He speaks in Austin frequently, but I haven't made it to one of his events.

    I agree that some real world big names would certainly help to promote the event. The intent should really just be for the people on the site to meet and learn from each other though....not to promote paid tickets.

  • Real Estate Investor · the villages, FL · Member since 2008 · 5k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    15y

    I like Charles Perkins replies verbatim! In seminars I've attended and presented at, it seems the more well-received were the ones oriented to Q&A with short answers and also short presentations.
    Many presentations go long and don't cover info particular attendees are interested in.
    I'd attend no matter where it was held. I don't like the seminars that are peddling either inside or outside. A real estate conference is NOT a bunch of booths or gurus selling books, tapes, rehab programs etc, imo.
    There are folks on here I'd love to ask questions! Limit the questions per attendee and time to reply to something reseanable.Rich

  • Real Estate Investor · Milwaukie, OR · Member since 2010 · 14 posts · 2 votes
    15y

    I'm a newbie on the site (a member since around July) and I have completed one rehab and am anxiously waiting for the sell, so I can do it again! As a newbie, I would appreciate topics from experts about how to buy at auctions, buying notes, how/ways to target distressed sellers and especially how to talk to them, etc. I would love for their to be great networking opportunities.

    I know you don't want to talk about location yet, however, I've attended the carpet convention in Clearwater, Flor. and its a great place to do it because (and may be this is because I'm from Oregon) its a tropical location for pleasure plus business. A great place to bring the family in addition to convention!

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