Noisy neighbours in an overcrowded house

Noisy neighbours in an overcrowded house

Investor · Palm Beach · Member since 2016 · 28 posts · 6 votes

Hello,

I need some advice please on what my options are to do deal with noisy neighbors.

My property was used as a long term rental and I have recently converted it to a STR. I've pulled out all the stops and the house, neighborhood and location is perfect for a STR. As soon as I listed the property it got booked up to April which I am very happy about!

The problem is my neighbors.. There are about 5 families living in the house with sometimes up to 6 cars in the driveway. This is the only house in the street with so many people living in it. 

There is a lot of noise coming from that house in a generally quiet neighborhood. A lot of noise given how many families live in the house - this is understandable. But my issue is they play very loud music, mostly during the day and evenings, which is during social hours, but they play the music so loud that it is impossible for anyone in my backyard to have a conversation with the person sitting next to you. When they park their cars in the evening they have to arrange all the cars to fit them in all around the house and driveway, they use their car horns to direct each other where to park... Again, because of all the families living there they generate a lot of garbage which just gets dumped on the curb next to my property - a huge eyesore for the whole street.. They have small dogs which they leave outside that bark day and night. I have already had a guest complaint about the dogs..

I can live with the garbage issue, but the loud music and dogs will lead to bad reviews which I cannot afford in a very competitive market.

I would appreciate any feedback on what my options are in this situation. Do I contact the landlord or the city council? I can't imagine the police will get involved since they are not noisy after social hours.

Thank you,

Stefhan

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Rental Property Investor · Phoenix, AZ and Rehoboth Beach DE · Member since 2019 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
3y

There is surely a maximum legal occupancy of the house, based on the number of bedrooms. Find out what that is by calling the county. 

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  • John UnderwoodPro Member
    Investor · Greer, SC · Member since 2014 · 13k+ posts · 17k+ votes
    3y

    I'm guessing talking to them won't get you far. It is hard for that many people to be quiet.

    Keep filing noise complaints with city/county with hopes this will get them in line.

    Plant some fast growing trees to dampen the sound

    Is there an HOA you can complain to that might be able to levy fines?

    Tall wooden fence to block view

    If none of this works you may have to consider going back to an LTR. 

  • John UnderwoodPro Member
    Investor · Greer, SC · Member since 2014 · 13k+ posts · 17k+ votes
    3y

    I wonder if there is a way to add a subtle white noise generator to the house to mask some of the noise? It won't help if they are sitting outside around a fire pit or similar.

  • Real Estate Consultant · Cleveland · Member since 2020 · 6k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    3y

    So all due respect, it seems you did NOT buy in the right location, sounds like a very " low rent " area . All you can do is call the city, but they will not do anything unless its typically after 11 

    Sell it and move on 

  • Investor · Palm Beach · Member since 2016 · 28 posts · 6 votes
    3y
    Quote from @John Underwood:

    I wonder if there is a way to add a subtle white noise generator to the house to mask some of the noise? It won't help if they are sitting outside around a fire pit or similar.


    Thanks for your feedback John, the new 6th fence is already up and I have planted fast growing trees. Also thought about a noise damper but I haven't done much research on it yet. There is no HOA so I will file a noise complaint with the city , and keep doing it.

  • Investor · Palm Beach · Member since 2016 · 28 posts · 6 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Bob S.:

    So all due respect, it seems you did NOT buy in the right location, sounds like a very " low rent " area . All you can do is call the city, but they will not do anything unless its typically after 11 

    Sell it and move on 


     Hi Bob, on the contrary as a long term rental I was getting $3575 p/m for the property. Which is market rate for my area. I am not sure the landlord is aware / or doesn't care about the amount of people in the house next door. This is the only house in the street with this issue, unfortunately right next to mine.. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Phoenix, AZ and Rehoboth Beach DE · Member since 2019 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    3y

    There is surely a maximum legal occupancy of the house, based on the number of bedrooms. Find out what that is by calling the county. 

  • Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2014 · 10 posts · 8 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Stefhan Malherbe:
    Quote from @Bob S.:

    So all due respect, it seems you did NOT buy in the right location, sounds like a very " low rent " area . All you can do is call the city, but they will not do anything unless its typically after 11 

    Sell it and move on 


     Hi Bob, on the contrary as a long term rental I was getting $3575 p/m for the property. Which is market rate for my area. I am not sure the landlord is aware / or doesn't care about the amount of people in the house next door. This is the only house in the street with this issue, unfortunately right next to mine.. 

    @Stefhan Malherbe  I would try to contact the landlord.   have some evidence to share with them. He very well could have an issue with this as well especially if he thinks it will be effecting his livelihood and the condition of his house. I would also see if he is under market rent- might be a good time anyways for him to find new tenants. 

    Good luck   

  • Nathan GesnerBusiness Member
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    Real Estate Broker · Cody, WY · Member since 2010 · 28k+ posts · 41k+ votes
    3y

    You can buy a noise monitor and place it in the back yard. When it alerts you to loud noise, report it to the police. Maybe after a few notices, they'll settle down. I would also figure out a way to report them for any problems like leaving trash outside of a receptacle (if that's an ordinance violation).

    I would definitely track down the Landlord. They may not realize how many are living in the home and might do something about it.

    I would also contact the city to see if it violates occupancy limits. For example, some cities have occupancy limits of two people per bedroom and this house may have three people per bedroom. If there's a violation, the city could put the owner on notice and add some pressure.

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  • Member since 2021 · 256 posts · 213 votes
    3y

    @Nathan Gesner and @Lauren Kormylo said it. I would look into the laws of home many people can stay into a house and more specifically room and then pursue going to the city and tell them what is happening. Most of the states/cities have limits on how many people can reside in a room.

     Correct me if I am wrong, but I am assuming that a family's friends immigrated from another country and they are all staying together now given what is happening throughout US, which if that is the case I will look into public records to see where the owner is receiving mail. If it is a different address I would go into the city and alert them what is going on. If the owner lives in the property/receiving the mail there, I would go and talk to them directly. You will know the name from public records. Again, if the case is what I assumed it is, one conversation would do it.

  • Bruce WoodruffPro Member
    Contractor/Investor/Consultant · San Diego / Phoenix · Member since 2021 · 12k+ posts · 15k+ votes
    3y

    Be careful with complaints. They can lead to reprisals. Not that you shouldn't do something, just be careful .

    I agree constant calls to the authorities is your option, but also @bob has a point. You may have go back LTR.....

  • Michael BaumPro Member
    Olympia, WA · Member since 2016 · 8k+ posts · 7k+ votes
    3y

    I agree with just about everything said @Stefhan Malherbe. You have to keep on it, call the city and report the problems.

    But what @Bruce Woodruff said has a lot of merit. Once you get going, you can expect that they will figure it out. That could lead to harassment of the guests all the way to physical confrontations.

    That will generate a ton of negative reviews and kill your listing right quick. So be prepared to change the listing once it gets resolved or pull it altogether and restart.

  • Investor · Palm Beach · Member since 2016 · 28 posts · 6 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Galen Ikonomov:

    @Nathan Gesner and @Lauren Kormylo said it. I would look into the laws of home many people can stay into a house and more specifically room and then pursue going to the city and tell them what is happening. Most of the states/cities have limits on how many people can reside in a room.

     Correct me if I am wrong, but I am assuming that a family's friends immigrated from another country and they are all staying together now given what is happening throughout US, which if that is the case I will look into public records to see where the owner is receiving mail. If it is a different address I would go into the city and alert them what is going on. If the owner lives in the property/receiving the mail there, I would go and talk to them directly. You will know the name from public records. Again, if the case is what I assumed it is, one conversation would do it.


    Thanks for the advice Galen, I will look up the owner's details and reach out to them. I could be wrong, but I don't think the owner is living at the property

  • Investor · Palm Beach · Member since 2016 · 28 posts · 6 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Michael Baum:

    I agree with just about everything said @Stefhan Malherbe. You have to keep on it, call the city and report the problems.

    But what @Bruce Woodruff said has a lot of merit. Once you get going, you can expect that they will figure it out. That could lead to harassment of the guests all the way to physical confrontations.

    That will generate a ton of negative reviews and kill your listing right quick. So be prepared to change the listing once it gets resolved or pull it altogether and restart.

    Hi Michael, yes the STR venture will be dead in the water pretty quick if I start getting negative reviews, especially if things escalate.. Not even mentioning the financial loss after renovating and furnishing the property!

  • Bruce WoodruffPro Member
    Contractor/Investor/Consultant · San Diego / Phoenix · Member since 2021 · 12k+ posts · 15k+ votes
    3y
    Quote from @Stefhan Malherbe:
    Quote from @Michael Baum:

    I agree with just about everything said @Stefhan Malherbe. You have to keep on it, call the city and report the problems.

    But what @Bruce Woodruff said has a lot of merit. Once you get going, you can expect that they will figure it out. That could lead to harassment of the guests all the way to physical confrontations.

    That will generate a ton of negative reviews and kill your listing right quick. So be prepared to change the listing once it gets resolved or pull it altogether and restart.

    Hi Michael, yes the STR venture will be dead in the water pretty quick if I start getting negative reviews, especially if things escalate.. Not even mentioning the financial loss after renovating and furnishing the property!


    I would either get the neighbor problem to go away or don't do STR at all. You cannot afford to get any bad reviews, they will be hard to get rid of and explain.

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