STR Performance Drop – Just Mammoth or Industry-Wide?

STR Performance Drop – Just Mammoth or Industry-Wide?

Investor · Ojai CA · Member since 2022 · 11 posts · 4 votes

Hey all – curious to get your perspective on this.

We’ve consistently outperformed the market in Mammoth Lakes, CA for the past few years. Good photos, Guest Favorite on Airbnb, Superhost, strong reviews, fast response time – the usual playbook. But lately, nothing is working. Occupancy is down, even with competitive pricing and strong listing health.

According to Pricelabs, May occupancy in the area is down 15–20% year over year… and nearly 35% down from 2023. That’s huge. And yet, the platform is still recommending pricing that’s significantly higher than what other units are going for – likely because it doesn’t factor in discounts and last-minute deals being manually added by other hosts.

Meanwhile, it feels like we’re in a race to the bottom. People are slashing rates just to grab the few guests still booking. But even at a discount, bookings are sluggish. And here’s the thing: we’ve always beaten the market. So why aren’t we beating it now?

Here’s what I’m wondering:

  • -Is this a mountain town issue (snow-dependent shoulder seasons, regional taxes, etc.)?

  • -Is it a Mammoth-specific issue (overdevelopment, tourism board strategy changes, increased STR saturation)?

  • -Or is it a broader macroeconomic issue (national slowdown in discretionary travel, inflation, AI fatigue on platforms, etc.)?

I’ve seen arguments for all three:

  • -Some say tourism boards are shifting focus away from 100% occupancy and pushing for “quality over quantity” (good for locals, maybe bad for investors).

  • -Others think it's just the end of the COVID STR gold rush and we're entering a new "normal."

  • -And a few believe it’s inflation + oversupply + a national downturn in travel spending.

Would love to hear from other owners/investors. What are you seeing in your markets? Are bookings down everywhere, or is this hyper-local? And if you’ve found strategies that are still working to drive consistent revenue – not just occupancy – please share.

Thanks in advance!

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Collin HaysBusiness Member
Property Manager · Gatlinburg, TN · Member since 2020 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes
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Macro issue.  Travel is way off this year.  That’s why you are getting cruise offers in your mailbox once a week, and Southwest Airlines is running a perpetual 50% off sale.

This is the part of the business when the tide goes out and we find out who isn’t wearing their swim trunks.  

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  • Collin HaysBusiness Member
    Property Manager · Gatlinburg, TN · Member since 2020 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes
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    Macro issue.  Travel is way off this year.  That’s why you are getting cruise offers in your mailbox once a week, and Southwest Airlines is running a perpetual 50% off sale.

    This is the part of the business when the tide goes out and we find out who isn’t wearing their swim trunks.  

    • Rental Property Investor · Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2016 · 540 posts · 714 votes
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      Quote from @Collin Hays:

      Macro issue.  Travel is way off this year.  That’s why you are getting cruise offers in your mailbox once a week, and Southwest Airlines is running a perpetual 50% off sale.

      This is the part of the business when the tide goes out and we find out who isn’t wearing their swim trunks.  

      Well said Collin. I’ll add to that by saying that consumer sentiment is in the toilet. Consumers aren’t spending, businesses aren’t hiring. Basically everyone’s freaking out over tariffs and their inflationary pressure.

      https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/UMCSENT


    • Mike GrudzienPro Member
      Lender · Eugene, OR · Member since 2019 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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      Quote from @Collin Hays:

      Macro issue.  Travel is way off this year.  That’s why you are getting cruise offers in your mailbox once a week, and Southwest Airlines is running a perpetual 50% off sale.

      This is the part of the business when the tide goes out and we find out who isn’t wearing their swim trunks.  


       Collin nails it again and doesn't pull punches!

  • Andrew SteffensBusiness Member
    Tampa, FL · Member since 2022 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    1y

    I believe tourism is down nationwide but if you look at micro data there are those that
    weather it better than others.  In my market ( Tampa) the market is down -0.5% but I am up over 12% YoY across my entire portfolio.  I believe it is worse in specific markets like Gatlinburg and Orlando, for example.










  • Mike GrudzienPro Member
    Lender · Eugene, OR · Member since 2019 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    1y

    Yes, you said it: "it’s inflation + oversupply + a national downturn in travel spending"

  • John UnderwoodPro Member
    Investor · Greer, SC · Member since 2014 · 13k+ posts · 17k+ votes
    1y

    It is tough all over for sure. Many people wanting to get into the shiney STR scene that they had heard so much about and they got in with both feet and many areas are now very saturated.

    I have unique and special properties that are still doing very well. I am keeping an eye on pricing that is 4 to 6 months out to make sure I am competitive, but also know I will still be booked solid for peak seasons.

  • Scituate, MA · Member since 2018 · 55 posts · 33 votes
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  • Member since 2023 · 2 posts · 0 votes
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    Hello, I'm here in Tahoe and have had a short term rental posted for July and noticing that it is definitely much slower to book. During COVID and even last year, seemed like the moment we opened up dates it would book. Now it's taking much more time. 

  • Michael BaumPro Member
    Olympia, WA · Member since 2016 · 8k+ posts · 7k+ votes
    1y

    This year is pretty much like most years. We are nearly fully booked for the season. A few open dates but I think it will fill in.

  • Rental Property Investor · Manteno, IL · Member since 2009 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
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    The economy is definitely going to drive lower numbers everywhere.  There's just no other way to cut it.  But i think there are always better areas and product niches to be in.  In gatlinburg anyway, i think the smaller ones and twos are doing ok actually.  The bigger ones are taking the hit for sure.   And that makes sense.  

    Families traveling to these areas are getting hammered with inflation and the uncertainty of jobs and more inflation coming down the road.  It doesn't help that trump keeps playing games with these tariffs - going from 10% one day to 145% for china the next.  Or steel from 25 to 50%.  Those are huge increases in pricing that the consumer is going to be hit by.  And when they are, that means less travel.

    It also doesn't help that we've alienated a lot of the people internationally by targeting their country or saying stupid things like we're going to make canada the 51'st state.  Thats definitely affecting tourism as well.

    So yea.  I'm guessing people are still going to travel but not as many and they're going to look to save money when they do.  So a family of four is going to be more likely to want to drop down from a larger 3 or 4 bedroom str to a 1 or 2 bedroom if they can make it work.  

    I know for me in gatlinburg, the ones and twos are all I'm interested in adding right now.  I love the two's for families because they're big enough for the mom and dad and the kids can take the other room and/or use a pullout - but the place is still big enough for some amenities like arcade games or pinball and such.   Just put a superchexx in one that is a new build going up next week. 

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