Jan 2019 Nashville Short Term Rental panel

Jan 2019 Nashville Short Term Rental panel

Tim BergstromPro Member
Investor · Nashville, TN · Member since 2016 · 127 posts · 71 votes

Hey BP,

Tim here again and I just wanted to make a quick post to recap a special panel that was put on this morning by my brokerage Village to shine some light on the most current Short Term Rental details and developments in Nashville. The information I’m including in writing this is my understand of the codes and regulations as of Jan 10 2019.

The four panelists were:

Jon Michael - Zoning Administrator, Metro Codes

Emily Lamb - Zoning Chief, Metro Codes. Former Assistant Metro Attorney

David Taylor - Vice Char, Metropolitan Board of Zoning Appeals

and Megan McCrea - President of NASTRA (Nashville Short-Term Rental Association)

A TON of information was covered and lots of questions asked, of which I can't remember every detail. But I thought I'd just write this quick post to address and recap some common things that were talked about and asked by a majority of people as well as issues I've been inquired about from other people that these panelists spoke to. (Disclaimer, I am NOT an attorney or am I giving legal advice and this post is under the premise that policies can and DO change. These are just some notes I took and gleaned from this panel to the best of my understanding)

For anyone not super familiar with Nashville STR permit types or are researching information, there are simply two types now (there used to be 3). Owner-Occupied and Non-Owner Occupied. They both have their own set of regulations and rules required in obtain the respective types of permits. Zoning is king when determining whether a property can qualify for Non-Owner Occupied permits. For further details check out this link: https://www.nashville.gov/Codes-Administration/Short-Term-Rentals/Permit-Types.aspx

One of the main topics of conversation was a codes and permitting issue that has arisen in the past few months regarding a section of code law that was being missed while issuing permits over the past several months regarding HPR properties (two tall skinnies next to each other that are separately owned). The code/law issued back in Feb of 2018 states that in order for someone to operate an Owner Occupied STR in Nashville in one of these dwellings, the operator/owner must own BOTH units. Not just one side. Due to this error that codes was not catching for a while some owners/operators are getting hit with this issue and are unfortunately having their permits revoked, by law. I'm not taking a side on this, but I simply bring this up to make anyone reading this aware of this codes regulation within the law that got passed last year. If you are in the market to buy a Short Term Rental here in Nashville, make sure you are aware of this regulation. For the details google "BL2017-608" and you should be able to find the breakdown you need.

Two other terms the panelists listed to google in finding out regulation information are:

“SB-1086” and

“NASHVILLE ZONING LAND USE TABLES”

They specifically referenced these for our benefit as agents and developers, but even as a seller or buyer it is good to educate yourself.

A few other quick things that will be helpful for you to know if you are looking to make a STR investment here in Nashville:

  1. Permits don't transfer. Some people know this, some don't. If you sell you properly permitted STR property, the permit does NOT transfer with the sale. The new owner will need to apply for a new permit
  2. If ownership changes on the deed, the permit is canceled. For instance, if you own the property in your name, then for some reason want to transfer it to an LLC or vice versa for some reason, changing the ownership will kill your permit and you will need to reapply. Even if you own the LLC you transfer the deed in to. So essentially, don't apply for a permit until you know for certain the name on the deed is going to be the name that stays on the deed while operating
  3. There are two full time codes inspectors actively looking for violations every day. They also use a special website with a special algorithm that scans sights like Airbnb and VRBO looking for listings that do not have the proper permits. They take this very seriously.
  4. There is a zoning type called “SP” which stands for “Specific Plan”. If the SP doesn’t specify that STRs are eligible then they are not, even if the previous zoning type that it is being developed on would allow it (refer to zoning types in link provided above)

I could go on, but these were some of the main takeaways I thought were interesting beyond the basic information many people may already know.

All this being said, there is still a lot of opportunity to get in on a Short Term Rental investment here in Nashville. I know of many opportunities currently available and coming up that are well within the permit approval guidelines.

I just wanted to offer some value to anyone else was interested in this who may not have been at this meeting today or is currently researching options for their investment.

I’m also happy to discuss further to the best of my knowledge if anyone else is interested!

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Real Estate Agent · Nashville, TN · Member since 2019 · 12 posts · 14 votes
7y

Hi Tim! Great recap. Thank you for posting about the panel! I was the moderator, and you're right--there was a lot of information covered that day.

Your explanation is correct regarding HPRs. You now have to own both homes in the HPR and live in one and can get an owner-occupied permit to rent out the other. They are essentially treating it like a duplex that is zoned residential.

You are also correct regarding LLCs, BUT if someone is going to do an owner-occupied STR, the property has to be owned by a "natural person" according to BL----608. It can not be owned by an LLC or a corporation. It's part of Amendment 8, section II.

Thanks again for the recap--sorry I'm just now catching up on it.

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  • Real Estate Agent · Sevierville, TN · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y

    Thanks for sharing all this info, Tim! The Nashville space is a very interesting one and I'm definitely looking to keep up with all the latest - even though my only current "investment" is my primary residence (zoned RS5 and not an HPR) that I intend to occasionally use as an STR.

    That's a bummer re: the HPR zoning and codes - while on the one hand, I understand, since the yard area is common, that's a tough situation for those who bought thinking they'd be good to go under the regulations. Buying both units is definitely beyond what most people are able/willing to invest (and raises the interesting question: if you must be an owner-occupant in order to STR, and cannot legally have two addresses as your primary residence, and can only use your primary residence as an STR... what are your options with the other unit? Is it legal to STR it EVEN THOUGH it's not your permanent residence, or are you left with LTR as your only option?)

    Finally, re: changing ownership on the deed, is it still the case that the permit office will not consider an LLC to be an owner-occupant? My impression was that it had to be deeded to the individual's name, that they would not issue permits to LLCs regardless of ownership/occupancy.

    Once again, appreciate you sharing this with us.

  • Tim BergstromPro Member
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    Investor · Nashville, TN · Member since 2016 · 127 posts · 71 votes
    7y

    Hey @Julie McCoy, thanks for your response! And no problem!

    So just to be clear, and I don't think you were getting at this, but Non-Owner Occupant permits ARE still permitted, it is just strictly determined by the zoning the property sits on, and if the HOA allows it. So for instance, your RS5 property does not qualify as a Non-Owner Occupied for STR unfortunately. So if you're considering trying to use it as an STR I would strongly advise against it, also unfortunately. But let's say your property was zoned RM20, then it WOULD qualify for a Non-Owner Occupied property. (reference the link I included for a list of approved Non-Owner Occupant zoning types)

    Maybe that whole explanation was unnecessary for you, ha. But regarding the HPR issue, that is what some of these people are running in to now. But, from my understanding, if you were to own 123 Main St Units A and Units B, you would only be able to get a STR permit for ONE of the units. Now, at the same time, any rental lasting longer than 31 days is NOT considered STR, so besides LTRs there are also options of executive rentals and things of that nature that are not year long leases, but still "short term" in the sense that they're only for a month or two.

    And to your last question, again from my understanding and someone else could also speak to this, a STR permit can be held in the name of an LLC (I believe). But once the permit is issued to that LLC, if the deed is changed to say Jane Doe instead of JaneDoeLLC, that would kill your permit and you would need to reapply for a new one.

    I hope that helps? 

    And by all means, if someone with more legal expertise in this areas knows more than I do please feel free to correct me!

    Julie, if you'd like to discuss more feel free to PM me!

  • Real Estate Agent · Sevierville, TN · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y

    @Tim Bergstrom I think we crossed wires somewhere, LOL - I will be an owner-occupant of my new house so I'm only interested in the non-owner-occupant permitting as a matter of professional curiosity.   I intend to get an owner-occupant permit for my house and am fully aware that the zoning does not qualify for a non-owner-occupant permit (I have no problem with this, it thins out my competition!).  I hope this clears things up!  :) 

  • Tim BergstromPro Member
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    Investor · Nashville, TN · Member since 2016 · 127 posts · 71 votes
    7y

    @Julie McCoy Got it! Just want to over communicate to help anyone I can avoid stepping on landmines/avoid problems :).

  • Real Estate Agent · Nashville, TN · Member since 2019 · 12 posts · 14 votes
    7y

    Hi Tim! Great recap. Thank you for posting about the panel! I was the moderator, and you're right--there was a lot of information covered that day.

    Your explanation is correct regarding HPRs. You now have to own both homes in the HPR and live in one and can get an owner-occupied permit to rent out the other. They are essentially treating it like a duplex that is zoned residential.

    You are also correct regarding LLCs, BUT if someone is going to do an owner-occupied STR, the property has to be owned by a "natural person" according to BL----608. It can not be owned by an LLC or a corporation. It's part of Amendment 8, section II.

    Thanks again for the recap--sorry I'm just now catching up on it.

  • Tim BergstromPro Member
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    Investor · Nashville, TN · Member since 2016 · 127 posts · 71 votes
    7y

    Thanks @Deborah Vahle! That's great info and a great update/addition to what I recapped. That makes sense. Glad you chimed in, by all means! Haha.

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