Brand new and ready to jump right in. Any advise?

Brand new and ready to jump right in. Any advise?

Insurance Agent · Moundsville, WV · Member since 2014 · 17 posts · 12 votes

Hi everyone,

I've been soaking up all the info I can get my hands for about the last year .I came across the Podcast about 6 months ago and love it and this site is awesome and has inspired me to start taking action!!

I am originally from the Detroit suburbs and am now living in the Wheeling, West Virginia area and work just outside Pittsburgh. I would like to invest in both the my old home town and my new one.

I found a duplex that I'm going to put an offer on. I love to hear some insight from everyone here if this seems like a good deal or not.

I'm offing $42,000 and estimate I'll need to put $15,000 more into it. Each side has 2 bed 1 bath. The units where renting for $350 each (they are empty now)after the improvements I expect to rent them for $550 to $650 each. I used the 50% rule and gave it a ten cap to come up with the $42k. Does this sound like a good deal, anything I should know before I make this offer I might not have thought of heard about?

Thanks in advance for your input and advice

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  • Rental Property Investor · Brookline, MA · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 777 votes
    12y

    50% rule just tells you whether or not to look further at the deal.

    Next I would find out exactly how much the following expense are going to cost you each month. "The tenant pays" is a good answer as well. Put those numbers up here and I'll tell you what I would pay for the place.

    Taxes

    Sewer and Water

    Trash

    Heat/Utilities

    HOA

    Cap Ex and Ops

    Insurance

    Mgmt Fee - as a % (general consensus here on BP is 10%. include it even if you think you are going to self manage)

    Vacancy- as a %. 8% represents 1 vacant month/unit/year

  • Real Estate Investor · Madison Heights, MI · Member since 2014 · 693 posts · 216 votes
    12y

    with only putting 15k into this property how are you going to justify 300 more a month for a location that only rented for 350.

    That would be my main concern

  • Houston, TX · Member since 2014 · 15 posts · 3 votes
    12y

    I would make sure you comp the rental rates in actual neighborhood. What is the actual asking price and is the neighborhood stable or will you need a bullet proof vest. You also might consider a single family for first time if your not going to live in one of the units.

  • Insurance Agent · Moundsville, WV · Member since 2014 · 17 posts · 12 votes
    12y

    Taxes last year were $806, sewer and water should be around $65, Electric and heat are metered separately so the tenant will pay those. The rent at $350 was low for the comps, I have been doing all my projects at $550. Rent-o-meter says $800 is the median but from what I know and have called about thats the high end, $600 is market from what I find. Its listed for $55,000 but it been on the market for for over 180 days.

  • Insurance Agent · Moundsville, WV · Member since 2014 · 17 posts · 12 votes
    12y

    @aaronmontague thanks that would be awesome.

    Taxes- $800

    Sewer and Water- Tenant

    Trash- $20 (thats what I pay 2 Blocks away not sure if its the same)

    Heat/utilties- Tenant

    HOA- None

    Cap Ex and Ops- $150

    Insurance- Approx. $45

    Mgmt fee- 10% self managed

    Vacancy- 8%

    This is the type of help I need thanks again

  • Rental Property Investor · Brookline, MA · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 777 votes
    12y

    $42k looks like a good number for this place.

    How sure are you on the $15k renovation budget? I stuck in 20k to my numbers because renovations are always expensive. 42k still looks good.

    Make sure your $550/month number is accurate as well. Comp it at rentometer, craigslist and anything else you can find for the area.

    The numbers as I see them at 42k purchase plus 20k reno loan rolled in. 25% down:

    Mortgage Rate 5.00%

    Length of Mortgage in years 30

    Monthly Mortgage payment $249.62

    Taxes $66.67

    Sewer and Water $-

    Trash $20.00

    Heat/Utilities $-

    HOA $-

    Cap Ex and Ops $150.00

    Insurance $50.00

    Mgmt Fee $110.00

    Vacancy $88.00

    Total Expenses$734.29

    Total Revenue $1,100.00

    Cashflow/month $365.71

    Cash on Cash Return 20.90%

  • Insurance Agent · Moundsville, WV · Member since 2014 · 17 posts · 12 votes
    12y

    Aaron thanks again your feed back has been great and that's what makes me so excited about finding a forum like BP. I really appreciate the time you've taken to help a newbie.

  • Rental Property Investor · Brookline, MA · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 777 votes
    12y

    @Ryan Kempkens

    Any time. I look forward to you posting in "Success Stories!"

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    Investor · Maui, HI · Member since 2009 · 13k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    12y

    Hey @Ryan Kempkens welcome to BP!

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