Returning to Real Estate Investment after a Seven Year Absence

Returning to Real Estate Investment after a Seven Year Absence

Kalamazoo, MI · Member since 2014 · 35 posts · 14 votes

At the age of 18 (2005), after working hard during my mid-teenage years and saving well, I bought my first property in cash.  That is when my first real estate blunder occurred; despite that I bought it with cash directly from the city, they neglected to inform me that via zoning laws I could not turn that old firehouse into a residential home or retail space.  Then months later I leveraged another.  With this home, I fixed it up well and had tenants in one side, me in the other.  They paid for my mortgage, and this relative success made me forget about how aggravated I was about my first purchase.  Two years later, I was closing on my third in late 2008 when everything was obviously hitting the proverbial fan.

To make this long story as concise as possible, I saw my property value sink, tenants became hard to find, thus ultimately I took the potentially bad advice from my attorney friends and filed bankruptcy.  I learned the hard lesson that confidence and passion are not the only essential ingredients in the making of a successful business.  I needed more education and direction.

After some years away from real estate, I found that I never lost the passion.  It was always in my mind.  I kept telling myself that after I'm older, more successful in some other industry, I could buy some property.  However, as the time passed and I educated myself more, I realized that real estate investment and management is the right career path for me.

Now I am aiming to get back into the industry through property management as I find that to be a quite interesting profession, for which quality firms are allegedly difficult to find (I say this through my own experience and through reading BP and listening to the podcasts).  I haven't been successful yet in finding a firm to work with for the next few years, but I am continuing my search in a few principle markets, especially NC's 'research triangle'.

Thank you all for keeping this community going.  I've already reaped much reward and I look forward to future correspondence with you.

-mc

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Rental Property Investor · Weehawken, NJ · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 704 votes
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@Michael Miller 

Welcome. Your experience is a treasure trove of value. This will get you into the game faster than most. You have seen the bad side of this business, age makes you wiser, and you clearly have many years ahead.

If I was looking to make my day job in real estate, property management is assuredly where I would be. The main reason is because the bar is set so low by many managers that I have met. The good ones stand out: just for doing their job. As a result, there is a sincere need. 

Research Triangle in Raleigh/Durham is a great/nice place. If you are looking to get your legs in property management, I would even get started in Kalamazoo. Get some experience, some references, and make a bit of scratch while you're at it. 

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  • Rental Property Investor · Weehawken, NJ · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 704 votes
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    @Michael Miller 

    Welcome. Your experience is a treasure trove of value. This will get you into the game faster than most. You have seen the bad side of this business, age makes you wiser, and you clearly have many years ahead.

    If I was looking to make my day job in real estate, property management is assuredly where I would be. The main reason is because the bar is set so low by many managers that I have met. The good ones stand out: just for doing their job. As a result, there is a sincere need. 

    Research Triangle in Raleigh/Durham is a great/nice place. If you are looking to get your legs in property management, I would even get started in Kalamazoo. Get some experience, some references, and make a bit of scratch while you're at it. 

  • Kalamazoo, MI · Member since 2014 · 35 posts · 14 votes
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    @Trevor Ewen

    Thank you for the welcoming and encouraging words.

  • Investor · Grand Rapids, MI · Member since 2012 · 224 posts · 40 votes
    11y

    @Michael Miller  welcome back! Dust yourself off and make your comeback! 

  • Dawn BrenengenBusiness Member
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    Real Estate Broker · Raleigh, NC · Member since 2014 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    11y

    @Michael Miller I might be a little biased, but I think the Triangle is a great place to live. It's an ok place to invest, but the cash flow is not as good as you can get in other areas if you are investing out of state. However, I think we are poised to experience some appreciation, but I know that is speculation and not what most investors are considering in their decisions. 

  • Kalamazoo, MI · Member since 2014 · 35 posts · 14 votes
    11y

    @Dawn Brenengen , is the ratio of property price to rents the major reason why cash flow is slight in Raleigh?  Here in Michigan it is fairly easy to exceed the 'one-percent' or even the 'two-percent' rule.

    I'm curious if you're aware of whether this is also true for Durham.

  • Rental Property Investor · Phoenix/Lima, Arizona/OH · Member since 2012 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    11y

    Welcome to BP Nation, @Michael Miller !

    CF is a function of many things, one of the most notable - what you pay for the asset :)

    Good luck!

  • Dawn BrenengenBusiness Member
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    Real Estate Broker · Raleigh, NC · Member since 2014 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    11y

    @Michael Miller that's exactly right. Here, you can get around .8-.9% in good areas. You can get a better ratio of 1-1.2 in C areas, but these areas will be the last to gain any value.

    My .8% rentals still cash flow, though! 

  • Dave VisayaPro Member
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    Audio Engineer and Investor · Cebu City, Cebu · Member since 2013 · 7k+ posts · 881 votes
    11y

    Hey @Michael Miller welcome to BP! It's great that you decided to go back to Real Estate and chose BiggerPockets to get on track. Definitely check out the resources here and feel free to interact in the forums. See you around!

    BiggerPockets
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