New from the St. Louis - Metro East

New from the St. Louis - Metro East

Alton, IL · Member since 2016 · 2 posts · 1 vote

Hello everyone!

I'm 30 years old from Godfrey, Illinois, which is about thirty minutes east of down town St. Louis, Missouri. I work for a mid size police department in the area. I would say that my wife and I are better than average with our finances, making ourselves newly debt-free aside from our mortgage, which is relatively low. We also keep all monthly expenditures low. With two educated middle-class wages, this has allotted us a disposable take-home income that is greater than what most of our individual peers bring home from their annual salary. Although we're pretty financially disciplined we do spend money on traveling quite a bit, as I'm a pretty big roller coaster nerd. We're not afraid to spend money to go somewhere or to have a good time, since we make sacrifices elsewhere. If I had to say I had one vice it is cars. Just this past year I purchased my dream car, being a 2015 Subaru WRX/STI (obnoxious looking rally inspired little fast car.. the ones with the big obnoxious wings on the back). It was a regrettable decision, but at least it is paid for. 

 We've shifted our gears (see what I did there?) more toward investing. Our ultimate goal is to own several properties to supplement our income and enhance our retirement, in addition to our current self funded retirement plans and my city pension. We would like to accomplish this by buying good quality rental properties in the area, which luckily come at a very reasonable cost. We would also like to start dabbling in the market and we wouldn't be afraid start off taking a few risks with a small sum of money once we educate ourselves further. I've heard $5,000 is a good starting point.

This is a new journey for us, which you could say began last summer when my department transferred me to the detectives division in July, 2015. With only four years on the job, and no previous law enforcement experience before that, I was honored. I really thought I had the world by the balls. After working my rear off for the next three months I felt like a sucker. Here I was surrounded by 10 other guys who had an extreme passion for doing this stuff, while I was miserable. The only conclusion that I could come to was that I was doing literally two to three times more work for the exact same pay. At the same time, I was miserable, my personal life was suffering, I dreaded going into work, and I missed my 12-hour shift schedule where I essentially worked 160 days a year. The Monday-Friday "nine to five" was great, except as you can imagine the hours seldom fit that profile.

At the end of September, I requested a transfer and went back to my patrol unit. I was happy again and I continued to do thorough work with pride. I started to enjoy life again. However, I was stuck without a goal. I read quite a bit, including a lot of non-fiction, with the occasional fiction novel thrown in. I mostly love to read about things where I can be entertained and I can learn at the same time. One day it hit me. Over the past several years I had learned a ton of usable nutritional information from books like "Wheat Belly" and "Grain Bran" to vastly improve my health, clear up some previous dietary related medical conditions, and shave my body fat down to around 12%. Why couldn't I use this archaic tool or reading to better my position in life? 

"Rich Dad Poor Dad" was my first stop and it drastically changed the way my wife and I think about money. We were on a good track before, and now we're on a better one, partially thanks to our past financial discipline. Since then, I've been spending time on Investopedia, Kiplinger, Forbes, Etc., while watching educational youtube videos and usually capping my day off with a real estate book. Our goal is to buy our first rental property in the beginning of the year and learn as much as possible until then. We'll use this as our trainer until the year after that when we can decide to pay off the rental or buy another one (likely). We're fortunate enough to live close to an area where there are an abundance of fixer upper properties in the $25,000-$35,000 range, with other move-in rental properties ready to cash flow in the $40,000-$50,000 range. 

What we have going for us is our like mindedness, our free time since my wife works remotely from home, and our disposable income to feed our investment. We also don't plan on having a child for another 3-5 years and even then we've always has the same goal to be "one and done" in that area. What we do NOT have going for us is the ability to 'do-it-yourself,' since I can mess up a wet dream when it comes to maintaining my own property, let alone another one. However, we do have plenty of awesome hands-on friends who are dependable and could use extra cash. We can also learn from my sister and her long-term boyfriend who also own two rentals and flip older homes as a side hobby/income. We're looking to not only learn a ton of information, but to hopefully meet new people who can help us along the way. We're not in this to 'get rich quick,' but we would like to improve our monthly income through real estate investing while keeping our overall debt low. A conservative figure would be for us to completely own and rent three properties within the next five years, which I think is where we want to be.

Thanks,

Zach

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Columbia, IL · Member since 2015 · 7 posts · 5 votes
10y

@Jamie Carter I'm pretty sure they are open to anyone.  $100 for the day.

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  • Investor · Chicago, IL · Member since 2015 · 189 posts · 47 votes
    10y

    Hi Zach! Welcome to the BP community! Congrats on taking action and working towards your financial independence! Recently I've headed a group of  Chicago BP   investors that go out every Saturday to view properties and make offers using no money down lines of credit. I have documented our experiences in the investor deal Diaries forum under the name project BP. We have a lot of fun learning about properties and taking action! Please check out the links below and leave a contact number if interested. 

    https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/522/topics/28... https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/522/topics/27... https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/522/topics/27...

  • Investor · St. Louis Mo · Member since 2015 · 211 posts · 129 votes
    10y

    @Zachary Dellamano it's good to have you here on BiggerPockets and close to me here in St. Louis!  I would really recommend you search for the South Side Investment Club here in St. Louis.  It's a monthly meeting where hundreds of investors get together and talk all things real estate.  The club has helped me learn a ton and the relationships I have made are invaluable!

  • Alton, IL · Member since 2016 · 2 posts · 1 vote
    10y

    Thanks Kyle! I'll check it out.

  • Peter MacKercherBusiness Member
    Residential Real Estate Broker · Saint Louis, MO · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 567 votes
    10y

    @Zachary Dellamano Welcome to BP! Since you love reading you'll find a lot here to satisfy that urge, so be sure to go through the forums, blogs, and especially (and probably first) the books. They're top-notch. Don't forget the podcasts, too -- really you can't go wrong.

    Your reading will give you a clearer picture of what sort of investment vehicle you're after exactly. Living below your means is a powerful discipline and it will greatly help you and your wife when you start your investing, so kudos there. 

    There are a lot of areas you can pick to invest in in and around St. Louis, so if you're ever curious about the city don't hesitate to reach out if you'd like to talk shop. 

    Cheers!

  • Investor · Ballwin, MO · Member since 2015 · 111 posts · 83 votes
    10y

    Welcome Zach (from another investor here in St Louis). Your goal of 3 homes in the next five years is definitely achievable. You may even find after the first one or two that it is conservative. I bought a 3 plex in February of 2015, then a duplex in August. I spent the next few months sitting on the properties and developing systems to allow me to scale. Then in January and February of this year I picked up a 4 plex, and two more duplexes. That was actually my goal for the whole year this year so now I'm shooting for at least a couple more properties this year and hopefully another 5 or so next year.

    Good luck to you, your conservative mindset will serve you well. Reach out if you ever want to have coffee and talk shop.

  • Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2014 · 2k+ posts · 515 votes
    10y

    Welcome to BP @Zachary Dellamano. At BP, you can find all kinds of information on real estate and get the answers to the questions you are looking for. BP is also great in networking with other real estate investors. I wish you all the best. You are not alone in your real estate ambition. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Chicago, IL · Member since 2015 · 19 posts · 5 votes
    10y
    Welcome to bp 😎
  • Columbia, IL · Member since 2015 · 7 posts · 5 votes
    10y

    I recently joined the South Side Investment Club.  They have a free two-hour workshop every month.  They give some good info in those two hours then pitch you an Access Pass membership that's a pretty good deal.  The pitch worked on my friend and I.  We took advantage of the partnership discount.  Since then we've been on one of their bus tours and are excited to attend our first monthly meeting next week.  @Kyle Grimm any tips on what to expect?

  • Investor · Saint Ann, MO · Member since 2016 · 16 posts · 13 votes
    10y

    @Jason Pelch I was literally just about to mention that. Those bus tours- are they available for nonmembers of the SSIC or just members, do you know? I don't go to any of the meetings due to a scheduling conflict, but I do get regular emails.

  • Columbia, IL · Member since 2015 · 7 posts · 5 votes
    10y

    @Jamie Carter I'm pretty sure they are open to anyone.  $100 for the day.

  • Rental Property Investor · Bethalto, IL · Member since 2014 · 319 posts · 103 votes
    10y

    @Zachary Dellamano welcome to the site!  i am about 15 minutes from you in Bethalto.  You can learn a lot on here.  I have asked 100 questions at least on here in my first year as an investor.  Now that we have the handle on it, my wife and I are looking to add 2-3 properties this year.  It is addicting!

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