Newbie Investor from SoCal/LA/Orange County, CA

Newbie Investor from SoCal/LA/Orange County, CA

Irvine, CA · Member since 2016 · 19 posts · 5 votes

Hey BP,

My wife and I are brand new to REI and BP. We just had our third child and if that isn't a strong "Why factor" I don't know what is. I have been using all of my free time(not much with 3 kids and we both coach, volunteer etc) to read and even listen to podcasts when I am feeding my newborn at "crack of dawn". My wife and I both have accounting/finance backgrounds. We both work for Fortune 500 Cos now and have been entrepreneurs in our previous lives as well. Crunching the numbers and the running and managing the business side is our strong suite, hands on Real Estate "ins and outs" is our opportunity for learning.

We got pre-approved and have been looking at properties to fix and flip in North Orange County. Our goal is to acquire a property by end of year and have it sold by Spring(April). After that, we would like to acquire one property per quarter in 2017. House prices pushed by high demand are impeding our opportunities in Orange County. For example, this Saturday I saw about 5 properties in Santa Ana with an agent and stopped in another 5 open houses on my own that I happened to see while driving around to gain information with my contractor (who happens to be my father in law.) Prices for "TLC projects" for the area were so high that the deal numbers don't make sense to flip. We wanted to pick a lower cost area for our first deal to learn the business and minimize potential risk. We were looking in Santa Ana, Orange, Anaheim and Tustin if you know Orange County. I know those are four cities but I am still doing research on each one to narrow it down even more. I would love some advice on what to look for when finding target areas when doing the research.

Here is a very abbreviated version of my research on just one city, Anaheim(Disneyland is in Anaheim), and my assumptions(in parentheses).

Anaheim, CA:

1. Population - 348,305 - 11.2% of Orange County (PRO: high/dense population?)

2.  # of Households - 99,944 - 9% of Orange County(OC)  

3.  Housing Units - 105,987 - 10% OC (CON: # of Units outgrowing # of households causing lower demand?)

4. Median Home Price- $445k vs. OC - $581 (PRO: Lower home price than other areas in OC)

5. # of people in a Household: 58% 2-4 people per household (PRO: 42% of population are single people(1) - 18% or families of 5+ - 28%)

6. 50.8% Rent, 49.2% - Own a home (Multi-family a more in-demand route for cash flow as 51% rent?)

7. 52% of houses built after 1970 (PRO: less major upgrade/repairs with these homes vs homes built before 1970?)

8. Housing Breakdown: Single family - 50.8, Multi-Family - 44.8%( 5+units - 34%, 2-4 units - 10.7%)(Large multi-family overbuilt?, High demand for duplex, triplex four-plex?)

Are we way off in our assumptions or should we look in different data points for analyzing locations and potential deals? High home prices tell me that Multi-family may be the best way to go as an investment in OC. We want to do multi-family, but a little nervous to have that be our first deal and refuse to concede to the notion that they are "no flip opportunities in OC".

Let me know if our research is off or not and any adjustments/suggestions to help get us going to that first property in the next 53 days.

Thanks for reading and God Bless,

Charles Stevenson

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  • Joe HomsBusiness Member
    Flipper · Mission Viejo, CA · Member since 2014 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    9y
    Charles Stevenson Welcome to BP. There is a location where like minded investors gather in Lake forest every month that you should check out. Go here https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/521/topics/366199-lake-forest-california-meet-up or PM me for the details. If you would like to chat before then and talk about investing let me know. I am in Mission Viejo and can get together at my local Starbucks. Your ALL in cost is only a cup of coffee. I am currently flipping homes in Orange County and teach others how to do so as well. I started a wholesaling group and spend my Saturday mornings with them. I am looking for my next purchase at the court house steps, while I am working on a few more. Good Investing...
  • Irvine, CA · Member since 2016 · 19 posts · 5 votes
    9y
    Joe Homs thanks for the intro to the meet up. I am definitely interested in attending. Would be interested in any advice on what you have done to be successful in OC?
  • Joe HomsBusiness Member
    Flipper · Mission Viejo, CA · Member since 2014 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    9y

    @Charles Stevenson  If you are interested in meeting with me at my local Starbucks in Mission Viejo before the next meet-up let me know.

  • Irvine, CA · Member since 2016 · 19 posts · 5 votes
    9y

    sure sounds good. My office is in Irvine. What day and time works? I can PM you.

  • Flipper/Rehabber · Tustin, CA · Member since 2015 · 433 posts · 103 votes
    9y

    Hello @Charles Stevenson. Glad to see you make your introduction. Seems like you've done quite some research yourself. As you probably already know, I flip homes mainly in LA and Orange County. Looking forward to talking with you soon. 

  • Brett SynickyPro Member
    Solo 401k and SDIRA Consultant · Orange, CA · Member since 2013 · 875 posts · 498 votes
    9y

    Hi @Charles Stevenson,

    You just made one of the best networking decisions available!

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    Best of luck!

  • Irvine, CA · Member since 2016 · 19 posts · 5 votes
    9y

    @Brett Synicky thank you! I have set up alerts and look forward to networking in the future. Do you focus in Orange? I did some research on Orange recently and I was pleasantly surprised.  Let me know as I would to talk about working together potentially in the future. 

  • Anaheim, CA · Member since 2016 · 3 posts · 0 votes
    9y

    Hello.i am very interested to learn more in southern California real Estate market

  • Jo-Ann LapinPro Member
    Loan Officer · Tustin, CA · Member since 2015 · 3k+ posts · 713 votes
    9y

    Welcome to the community. Wow you really are in the thick of it and in a wonderful area. I am here locally here in Tustin . This secondy investment for you about who you know, timing location and of course buying at the right price. Happy to assist and help.

  • Anaheim, CA · Member since 2016 · 3 posts · 0 votes
    9y

    Sure  thank you

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