Initial Game Plan for Starting My Real Estate Investing Journey

Initial Game Plan for Starting My Real Estate Investing Journey

Wendell ButlerPro Member
Investor · Charlotte, NC · Member since 2020 · 139 posts · 95 votes

Hello! My name is Wendell, I am 26 years old and I am brand new to BiggerPockets, already love all the support and information in the community.

I just wanted to layout where I am at in my investment journey as well as my initial game plan for really jumping straight into real estate investing. I would love feedback with any insights, constructive criticism, things I should look out for and tips!:

Current Job: Loan Officer Assistant - Currently in courses/classes to obtain my license to become a license Loan Officer. I switched to this job in July 2020 knowing I wanted to invest in real estate. I felt learning everything I can regarding loans, the market I am in and real estate processes was a great opportunity especially during the crazy market right now. Currently make ~$50k salary.

My First investment: I purchased my first investment property (I live in it currently) back in May 2020 for $142k. I purchased this from my sister below the appraisal value of $146k (benefit of no realtors so she gave me a deal), but they also did not take into account the re-done basement and $10k hardwood floors my sister put in because they did a desk appraisal. I already re-did the kitchen for around $7k as well as added new rugs/carpet in the bedrooms and repainted. Condos in the same place as me are selling for upwards of $180-200k and look very similar to what I did with mine. I currently pay $865 mortgage (PITI) and $300 for HOA fees = $1165. I have a roommate I found to live with me that pays me $700 a month and splits electricity/utilities with me.

Game Plan: 

1.) I want to treat my first investment property above as a short term rental/flip. I feel I will be able to sell this condo for around $180-185k depending on the market (even if it drops a little bit from what it is now). I am planning on selling in August 2021 once my roommates lease is up. I would like to come out of selling this property with $30k net. I think that will be possible with the new kitchen, new hardwood floors, basement re-done, touch ups and appreciation. Let me know your thoughts!

2.) I am an Army veteran so I have the amazing VA loan at my disposal (I did not use it on my first property, I used the MA Housing zero money down). As I sell my first property for the hopeful $30k net I will be searching for a duplex to buy immediately with a zero down VA loan. Yes you can get a duplex/tri-plex with a VA loan as long as you plan to live there for a year, which I will. Looking at around $200k-$250k duplex in MA (obviously the cheaper the better). Nothing special, but definitely a move in ready property that I can immediately touch up a little and rent out the other unit to cover my mortgage and create positive cashflow. Break even at the least, best case scenario is get 1.25x the PITI so I totally cancel out my debt-income ratio and it allows me to do my next step. I will also make touch-ups and additions as I live there to increase its value.

3.) With the money I am currently saving as well as the ~$30K Net I get from my Condo sale, I want to immediately look to purchase a single family home investment property. Aiming to have around $50k liquid money for investing. I want to get something around $150k - I will look and get a sale for 15% under market value (I know this is hard, but that is my goal and I will do it - it will allow me to have a cushion and not lose as much money if the market goes down). Once I secure that property I will look to do a lease-to-own agreement. Obviously if I can do a sale-by-owner immediately I will so I can cash in on that 15% discount I got - then repeat the process. Worst case if i cannot get a lease-to-own or sale-by-owner I will short term rent until I find lease-to-own/sale-by-owner. Lease-to-own with this will get my a down payment from the lessee, 15% profit from the initial discount I bought for, create cashflow from the rent, plus I won't have to be their property manager if they want to purchase the house and sign an agreement. Will aim to sell property lease-to-own within 2-3 years (Faster the better).

I want to create a snowball effect of lease-to-own single family homes using that strategy and bring in other investors to work with me. My duplex I'll live in I will look to refinance, move out and rent out both units. Then repeat buying another duplex with the VA loan again to repeat the process.

I know that plan sounds great for me, but obviously a ton of things can go wrong. I am in the Massachusetts market near Worcester/Boston so the prices of homes here are obviously much higher than other parts of the USA. I appreciate any thoughts, insights, tips, things to look out for, just ANTHING! I am very open minded and new to investing, but I feel I have a good game plan. Thank you in advance!!!

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  • Rental Property Investor · Nashua, NH · Member since 2018 · 3 posts · 0 votes
    5y

    Hi Wendell - Welcome to your investing adventure, best of luck on your journey!

    What part of MA is your condo located? That will dictate the legitimacy of short term rental potential. Especially given the current market circumstances with COVID. The short term rental numbers I am seeing in MA are down significantly (except for Cape Cod/Berkshires) since COVID started. 

    Just from a pure market standpoint, your are going to be hard pressed to find worthwhile duplex/single family homes in your price range from Greater Worcester -> East Mass. Not to discourage you, but we live in a shark infested investor area with a lot of transient tenants (higher ed/ medical) that drive investment prices. 

  • Wendell ButlerPro Member
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    Investor · Charlotte, NC · Member since 2020 · 139 posts · 95 votes
    5y

    My Condo is in Worcester, MA (Grafton Hill Area) - as in short term rental it's more as referring to as I live here renting to my roommate, I am looking to definitely sell it to free up the equity I have in the condo to jumpstart my investing and move into a duplex with a VA loan.

    And that is definitely true, about the shark invested investor area here. With my price range that's another reason I am exploring all over MA as well, not only Worcester to Boston, until i build more equity (Of course I feel Worcester has a lot of potential though, so getting properties here for a good price would be beneficial). I am open to Western, MA as well, mostly for the Single Family home Lease-to-Own idea. 

    For the Duplex I will look around Worcester and close by here for my work, will definitely be hard to find something in my price range - but maybe in a few months when all the foreclosures/pre-foreclosures due to COVID go back on market I can find a good deal.

  • Investor · Member since 2020 · 10 posts · 4 votes
    5y

    Look into VA IRRRL refinance. You can move out after 7 months! I will be utilizing my VA as well, also i will be doing something very similar to what you are planning but with the IRRRL REFI. I will do this for 3 years and get at least 2 properties on average a year then move to the commercial side of real estate and 1031 my properties to have the down payment for a commercial loan and get into apartments. Im just going to keep building my portfolio like this and make some tweaks along the way if anything major shifts. What do you think about this?

  • Wendell ButlerPro Member
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    Investor · Charlotte, NC · Member since 2020 · 139 posts · 95 votes
    5y

    @Felix Rodriguez I like that idea. Very cool way to get yourself into commercial which can be very profitable!

  • Member since 2019 · 12 posts · 1 vote
    5y

    @Felix Rodriguez can you explain more about VA IRRRL refi? I used mine on a property out in California.

  • Rental Property Investor · Worcester, MA · Member since 2014 · 47 posts · 41 votes
    5y

    Hi Wendell,

    Congrats on your first deal! I think something in that price range is attainable, but will be difficult, and will definitely have some issues / require work. With the proceeds from your sale, your salary, and the benefits of a 0% down VA loan, you may want to consider going after something bigger. I got a 3 family in Worcester at ~440 with just 5% down, seller covered the closing costs, and with roommates and the in-place tenants, I am cash flow positive. I had a hard time justifying a duplex, much better off with a 3 or 4 in my opinion.

    Good luck,

    Mike 

  • Wendell ButlerPro Member
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    Investor · Charlotte, NC · Member since 2020 · 139 posts · 95 votes
    5y

    @Michael Hohrath how were you able to only do 5% down for an investment property? Or are you living in it as well?

    I was initially thinking 3-4 plex’s, but for my investments I am going to make most of my profit initially off of the single family lease-to-own plan. Buy them at a discount, the lease-to-own eliminates property manager costs as well as me being a hands on manager, and once sold after 2-3 years (that’s what I am shooting for) you get appreciation profit, the discount profit back and while they are leasing you get cash flow from rent. Hopefully I can get 2-3 properties at one time doing this.

    The duplex is just icing on the cake using the VA loan to start adding long term rental properties to my portfolio. Live a year at one, move out and repeat process with VA loan. Not looking to do this long term, but maybe for a few years to get around 3 of them going. That can create additional small cash flow and build equity. Once they are in place long enough I can sell them at the right time and use that profit to upgrade to a 3-4 plex and continue that snowball effect until I can get a commercial property.

    Obviously just my plan, and plans change, but I think it’s a sound one. It’ll take patience, dedication and discipline though.

  • Rental Property Investor · Worcester, MA · Member since 2014 · 47 posts · 41 votes
    5y

    Interesting strategy, haven't seen too many lease to owns around here but I don't spend too much time looking at rental listings. Do you want to have a value-add component on the purchase? I've always heard stacking single families is a great way to build equity. 

    My investment is a house-hack, so I'm here now, hence the 5% loan and will seek to do another next year and so forth. Similar strategy, real estate is a snow ball effect, build slow but effectively. I saw a couple of duplexes available on the market right now that could work for you. Feel free to shoot me a message if you need an agent and want to check out some places sometime. 

  • Wendell ButlerPro Member
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    Investor · Charlotte, NC · Member since 2020 · 139 posts · 95 votes
    5y

    @Michael Hohrath awesome, yeah the house hacking is what i plan to do with the duplex’s. I will definitely keep in touch. I’ll send you a connection as well.

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